Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-09 Thread Bob S
On Friday 07 December 2007 11:40:26 pm Bob S wrote: > Hello SuSE people, > > I plan to buy an external USB drive for my backups. I would really like to > do a complete and full backup. > Many thanks to all of you who supplied info and advice. I guess now that I have to do some investigation on al

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-09 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Don Raboud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Saturday 08 December 2007 21:51, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > > The disk needs to be partitioned before doing a restore with dd.  It copies > > partitions, not disks.  It makes partition images, not disk images. > > This is true if to copy partition, but

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-09 Thread Don Raboud
On Saturday 08 December 2007 21:51, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > The disk needs to be partitioned before doing a restore with dd.  It copies > partitions, not disks.  It makes partition images, not disk images. This is true if to copy partition, but dd can copy entire disks as well. No pre-partitio

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-09 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-12-08 at 21:25 -0800, Ti Kan wrote: I find that dd for bare metal backups is dependable. Rsnapshot is fast and convenient for incremental backups and restores. There are other solutions that work. The downside of dd is that y

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Ti Kan
Jeffrey L. Taylor writes: > > Will dd build a bootable disk? > > Yes, dd can build a bootable disk. It is just a bit for bit copy of the disk > partition, including the Master Boot Record (MBR). That is the point of using > complete copies of partitions, to do a bare metal restore. Restoring a

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Bob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [snip] > Your replies lead to more questions, As I stated previously, I would like to > do an "all in one" if possible. Bootable and incrementaly up to date. > > Will dd build a bootable disk? Can that clone be updated by rsync to > make it current? > Yes, dd

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Bryen
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 23:09 -0500, Bob S wrote: > > > Replying to myself here so I can reply to all of the folks who were kind > enough to answer my query. Thanks Bryen, Rodney, Carlos, Joe, Otto.. Jeffrey, > Billie, etc. > > Your replies lead to more questions, As I stated previously, I would

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Bob S
On Saturday 08 December 2007 08:10:40 am Billie Walsh wrote: > Bob S wrote: > > Hello SuSE people, > > > > I plan to buy an external USB drive for my backups. I would really like > > to do a commmplete and full backup. > > > > Can I make a "clone" of my SUSE 10.3 ? I mean bootable and everything. I

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Bob S
On Friday 07 December 2007 11:40:26 pm Bob S wrote: > Hello SuSE people, > > I plan to buy an external USB drive for my backups. I would really like to > do a commmplete and full backup. > > Can I make a "clone" of my SUSE 10.3 ? I mean bootable and everything. If > not, can I copy everything and t

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Rodney Baker
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Joe Sloan wrote: > Rodney Baker wrote: > > rsync --logfile=/var/log/home_backup -Ca /home/ > > /backup/. > > > > This just compares each file in /home/ with its corresponding > > file in /backup/ and copies any that are new or have changed, > > resetting the archive bit for each

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Bryen
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 16:45 -0600, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 12/08/2007 Randall R Schulz wrote: > > Here's a shocker. > > > > Repository Name: MondoRescue > > Server: download.opensuse.org > > Directory: /repositories/Archiving:/Backup:/MondoRescue/openSUSE_10.3 > > > > > > It contains all three pr

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Billie Walsh
On 12/08/2007 Randall R Schulz wrote: > Here's a shocker. > > Repository Name: MondoRescue > Server: download.opensuse.org > Directory: /repositories/Archiving:/Backup:/MondoRescue/openSUSE_10.3 > > > It contains all three primary packages as well as several ancillary > ones. > > > Randall Schulz

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Joe Sloan
Rodney Baker wrote: > rsync --logfile=/var/log/home_backup -Ca /home/ /backup/. > > This just compares each file in /home/ with its corresponding file > in /backup/ and copies any that are new or have changed, resetting > the archive bit for each file. Not to nitpick, but actually, rsync is s

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 08 December 2007 09:38, Billie Walsh wrote: > ... > > Perhaps someone that doesn't have it installed could look to see > which repository it's in. From the looks of one file I wonder if it > might be on the distribution disk. Here's a shocker. Repository Name: MondoRescue Server: down

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Billie Walsh
On 12/08/2007 Bryen wrote: > A bug doesn't just mean something is broken. Although, if that > component is considered important, I would consider the fact that it > is > missing as broken. It could have been filed as an enhancement or as a > heads up to whomever packaged it. > You have a point t

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Bryen
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 09:58 -0600, Billie Walsh wrote: > Bryen wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 07:10 -0600, Billie Walsh wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> It takes three "programs", Mindi, Mindi Busybox, and Mondo. Get the > >> rpm's from Mondo Rescue to install. One portion is mi

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Billie Walsh
Bryen wrote: > On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 07:10 -0600, Billie Walsh wrote: > > >> >> > > >> It takes three "programs", Mindi, Mindi Busybox, and Mondo. Get the >> rpm's from Mondo Rescue to install. One portion is missing from the SuSE >> repos. You start it from CLI then get this rather DOS

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Rodney Baker
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Dave Cotton wrote: > On Saturday 08 December 2007 06:44:06 Rodney Baker wrote: > > Rsync is better for doing things like incremental backups. I use a > > home-grown script run from a cron job to do a nightly backup of my home > > directory to a second hdd on the same machine. It

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-12-08 at 16:14 +1030, Rodney Baker wrote: I agree. dd will allow you to copy an entire partition block by block. This is good if you are replacing a hard drive and want to keep the partition layout the same. Which means that if

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Bryen
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 07:10 -0600, Billie Walsh wrote: > > It takes three "programs", Mindi, Mindi Busybox, and Mondo. Get the > rpm's from Mondo Rescue to install. One portion is missing from the SuSE > repos. You start it from CLI then get this rather DOS(y) looking GUI. > Not exactly beautif

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Billie Walsh
Bob S wrote: > Hello SuSE people, > > I plan to buy an external USB drive for my backups. I would really like to do > a commmplete and full backup. > > Can I make a "clone" of my SUSE 10.3 ? I mean bootable and everything. If > not, > can I copy everything and then boot it from the DVD? Again, i

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Bob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello SuSE people, > > I plan to buy an external USB drive for my backups. I would really like to do > a commmplete and full backup. > > Can I make a "clone" of my SUSE 10.3 ? I mean bootable and everything. If > not, > can I copy everything and then boot i

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Dave Cotton
On Saturday 08 December 2007 06:44:06 Rodney Baker wrote: > Rsync is better for doing things like incremental backups. I use a > home-grown script run from a cron job to do a nightly backup of my home > directory to a second hdd on the same machine. It isn't a pretty script (in > fact, it's pretty

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-08 Thread Otto Rodusek (AP-SGP)
Bob S wrote: Hello SuSE people, I plan to buy an external USB drive for my backups. I would really like to do a commmplete and full backup. Can I make a "clone" of my SUSE 10.3 ? I mean bootable and everything. If not, can I copy everything and then boot it from the DVD? Again, if not, and I

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-07 Thread Rodney Baker
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Bryen wrote: > On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 23:40 -0500, Bob S wrote: > > Hello SuSE people, > > > > I plan to buy an external USB drive for my backups. I would really like > > to do a commmplete and full backup. > > > > Can I make a "clone" of my SUSE 10.3 ? I mean bootable and everyt

Re: [opensuse] rsync questions - backups - again !

2007-12-07 Thread Bryen
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 23:40 -0500, Bob S wrote: > Hello SuSE people, > > I plan to buy an external USB drive for my backups. I would really like to do > a commmplete and full backup. > > Can I make a "clone" of my SUSE 10.3 ? I mean bootable and everything. If > not, > can I copy everything a