Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Claes Bäckström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 1/22/07, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then we agree completely. I might not have done it consequently in my patterns, so you find redundancy, please tell me and I fix it ;-) Andreas Well not sure how you want this information.

Re: [opensuse-factory] ext3 online resize

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Matthias Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Claes Bäckström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any possibility that we will see online resize of ext3 filesystems supported in 10.3 hopefully with yast? Let me double check first: ext2 is working,

[opensuse-factory] What is wrong with the mirrors?

2007-01-23 Thread M9.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Is there a specific reason, that the given urls for the mirrors do not work? nluug.nl, as given in http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Development_Build , does not work. Also: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/ftp/int_mirrors.html

Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Gerd Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas Jaeger wrote: Claes Bäckström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note that in most cases I omitted dependencies, so e.g. glibc in the list below could be removed since it's required by others. grep is not in the list but required by aaa_base. Oh,

Re: [opensuse-factory] What is wrong with the mirrors?

2007-01-23 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Tuesday 23 January 2007 10:27 schrieb M9.: Hi, Is there a specific reason, that the given urls for the mirrors do not work? nluug.nl, as given in http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Development_Build , does not work. That is a wiki page, so everybody can fix it :) Mirrors are often a moving

Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Claes Bäckström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is my try to build a base pattern. For me this is aimed for a base computer that I can choose to build as a server or a workstation that only have the tools and functions the machine need. Like bastion dns, web, database server or a small and

Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Robert Schiele [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jan 22. 2007 19:54]: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 05:34:02PM +0100, Klaus Kaempf wrote: But you still don't know if to choose kernel-default or kernel-bigsmp ;-) Right, but _this_ decission can never be done by the package resolver but will always require

Re: [opensuse-factory] 'incomplete pattern' should be ok

2007-01-23 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jan 20. 2007 06:15]: Immediately before he switched installation source from dvdrom drive to /disk/muchfaster/dvd.iso (being the obvious copy of the DVD image) in yast-installation sources. Success here. This may or may not be relevant. No, I dont think

Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Št 18. Január 2007 10:23 Klaus Kaempf napísal: * Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jan 18. 2007 10:00]: Lars Rupp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Do 18.01.2007 09:39 schrieb Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * What do you think of this? Do you have better ideas? Perhaps we can

Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread jdd
Klaus Kaempf wrote: Well, the default should stay with 'vi' , I agree. The question is, do we want to enforce this default or allow alternatives ? and more the question is what incarnation of vi... I made a search, some time ago, there is no original vi nowaday. Vim is very nice but big,

[opensuse-factory] openSUSE KDE / Gnome Menu

2007-01-23 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
Hi. As far as I know, the Gnome Main menu as well as the new KDE Menu (kicker, right?) were implemented by Novell. I think both are quiet a nice thing. As I prefer Gnome as my Desktop, I was wondering if the start menu there will evolve a bit more, maybe in direction of Kicker? This tabbed view

Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some observations: 1) logrotate is a beautifull tool, but should be optional, just like sed, (since i'm a perl convert, i abandonned sed, awk) Those come in via dependencies. mkinitrd: afaik, only needed during installation/upgrades, not? For

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE KDE / Gnome Menu

2007-01-23 Thread Martin Schlander
Tirsdag 23 januar 2007 12:26 skrev Dominique Leuenberger: (kicker, right?) Kickoff.. kicker is the panels, systray, old menu etc. Kickoff is a part of kicker. What are other peoples thoughts about these menus? They seem to vary a lot. Many switch back to classic finding kickoff too

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE KDE / Gnome Menu

2007-01-23 Thread James Ogley
They seem to vary a lot. Many switch back to classic finding kickoff too complex. But there seems to be a general agreement among gnome-users that Kickoff is better than Slab, I've heard it many times now, and I haven't heard anyone state the opposite. As I commented in my recent blog

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE KDE / Gnome Menu

2007-01-23 Thread Simon Strandman
Dominique Leuenberger skrev: Hi. As far as I know, the Gnome Main menu as well as the new KDE Menu (kicker, right?) were implemented by Novell. I think both are quiet a nice thing. As I prefer Gnome as my Desktop, I was wondering if the start menu there will evolve a bit more, maybe in

Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE KDE / Gnome Menu

2007-01-23 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 15:31 +, James Ogley wrote: They seem to vary a lot. Many switch back to classic finding kickoff too complex. But there seems to be a general agreement among gnome-users that Kickoff is better than Slab, I've heard it many times now, and I haven't heard anyone

Re: [opensuse-factory] Flash 9 as a YOU update for 10.2?

2007-01-23 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 06:45:43PM +0200, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote: On Monday 22 January 2007 17:39, you wrote: We are planning to do so I think. It would be great. Out just now. I also guess that Adobe has now discontinued the flash7 line, so with the next security issue in flash we

Re: [opensuse-factory] Slightly OT - Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Jim Pye
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 22:31 +0100, jdd wrote: Jim Pye wrote: 10.1 and 10.2 does not handle the default resolution of the very first screens of the install. textmode=1 jdd Problem was the screen where you enter this is the one trashed :-( The work around was to have some

Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Hans Witvliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... Why have dhcp, *if* one chooses for static address? What do others think? I really would like to see dhcp removed. It should be an additional choice. This would really speed things up. I have to wait

Re: [opensuse-factory] Slightly OT - Making the basesystem smaller

2007-01-23 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Jim Pye wrote: On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 22:31 +0100, jdd wrote: Jim Pye wrote: 10.1 and 10.2 does not handle the default resolution of the very first screens of the install. textmode=1 Problem was the screen where you enter this is the one trashed :-( The work

[opensuse-factory] Zenupdater is very very slow....

2007-01-23 Thread M9.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just can not imagine why it has to take nearly 17 minutes, to update fi the flashplayer and the plug-in? It is realy a drag What is this app doing? Taking all this time for such a little task can not be meant? I think there is realy got to