Be nice. No snapping at each other ;-)
--jmr
-Original Message-
From: Terje J. Hanssen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 4:21 PM
To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
(tsclient)
* Bernhard Walle
* Bernhard Walle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote on Tue, 3 Apr 2007
*
> * Terje J. Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-02 12:50]:
>
> >/ I filed a bug about ICA and a RFE about missing tsclient rpms at./
> >/ https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223735/
> >/ /
> >/ As I still haven't fo
Benji Weber skrev:
> On 4/2/07, Terje J. Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2006
>>
>> > I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
>> > following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE
Linux
>
* Terje J. Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-04-02 12:50]:
> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2006
>
> >I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
> >following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
> >with Windows (to run
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2006
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop
* tsclient
I filed a bug about ICA and a RFE a
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I can't see tsclient yet in 10.2 Beta 2 (yes, rdesktop is there).
> Is there any chance to get tsclient 0.148 in openSUSE 10.2 i386 and
> x86_64 and without the dependices on the ICA client as mentioned for the
> previous tsclient 0.140?
Please fil
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linu
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also "iscan" free non-OSS that should be
>>> located on that iso part(s)?
>>
>> Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it?
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also "iscan" free non-OSS that should be
>> located on that iso part(s)?
>
> Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it?
>
I think I've found the explanation that clarify this
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>>> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>> Xcdroast is not part of openSUSE, it was
>>> too hard to maintain.
>>>
>> Not really? I just searched through both
>> http://download.opensus
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> 1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks:
>>> This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming
>>> burner devices.
>>>
>>> dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> 1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks:
>> This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming
>> burner devices.
>>
>> dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
>>
>> I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-C
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks:
> This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming
> burner devices.
>
> dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
>
> I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if
1) Burning Blu-Ray (BD) and HD_DVD disks:
This becomes a hot topic for the 10.2 release due to fast upcoming
burner devices.
dvd+rw-tools-6.1 is available in SL-OSS-factory
I suggest version 7.0 with Blu-Capability should be included if possible:
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/Blu-ray/
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> "Peter Flodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin
>>> client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation.
>>> Grouping all thes
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't i.e also "iscan" free non-OSS that should be
> located on that iso part(s)?
Yes, iscan is on the non-OSS part for some time. Isn't it?
Andreas
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SUSE Linux
"Peter Flodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin
>> client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation.
>> Grouping all these related packages together (
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> knx 0.1 was released in 2004 I think, and was never updated.
>
> knx is just a 2-day hack by some NX programmers.
> The same programmers say, that it would be more correct to implement
> NX into existing software intstead of writing something separate - the
> existing soft
knx 0.1 was released in 2004 I think, and was never updated.knx is just a 2-day hack by some NX programmers. The same programmers say, that it would be more correct to implement NX into existing software intstead of writing something separate - the existing software is: Konqueror "nx://" protocol K
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> tsclient version 0.140, as a common frontend for RDP, VNC and ICA, looks
> to require also the ICAclient, which again require libldapskk.so.0
> (novell-NLDAPsdk-dyn)
>
>>> That's bad - ICAclient is Non-OSS ;-(
>>>
>>>
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
> following,
On 9/30/06, Terje J. Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, I think it would make sense to have a new pattern, maybe like "Thin
client computing", default or optional for the desktop installation.
Grouping all these related packages together (vnc, rdesktop, tsclient,
NX servers and clients, othe
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>>> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
following, two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
>>> following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
>>> with Windows (to run
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
>> following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
>> with Windows (to run Winapps):
>>
>> * rdesktop
>> * tsclient
>
> So, in whi
"Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
> following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
> with Windows (to run Winapps):
>
> * rdesktop
> * tsclient
So, in which pattern should they end?
> Per
I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the
following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux
with Windows (to run Winapps):
* rdesktop
* tsclient
Personal I've also experienced that * iscan is the best package to get
full support out of Epson ADF or
Dňa Št 7. September 2006 09:51 jdd napísal:
> could it be possible to have with these lists an
> approximation of the installed size of the packages?
>
> it may not be worth discussing to gain bytes, only megabytes
> are worth
Not really. We've found out that the size of the installation is often
Dňa Pi 8. September 2006 11:01 Andreas Jaeger napísal:
> Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> >> openssh
> >
> > should probably be in recommended only
> >
> >> reiserfs
> >
> > Nobody needs this *g,d&r*
> >
> >> #if defined(__i386__) || defined (__x86_64__)
> >> [...]
> >> grub
>
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 03:11 +0200, Azerion wrote:
> >
> > > yast2-dhcp-server
> > > yast2-dns-server
> > > yast2-instserver
> > > yast2-nfs-server
> > > yast2-nis-server
> > > yast2-samba-server
> > > yast2-tftp-server
> >
> > Configuring servers is not needed for clients, it could be in some
> >
Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q --whatrequires m4
>
>> > Could be dropped, IIUC.
>>
>> Let's hope that this is a complete list...
>
> It's not! Think again:
>
> ~> rpm -q --whatrequires m4
> ...
> sendmail-8.13.6-9.9
That will not be a problem - since
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q --whatrequires m4
> > Could be dropped, IIUC.
>
> Let's hope that this is a complete list...
It's not! Think again:
~> rpm -q --whatrequires m4
...
sendmail-8.13.6-9.9
Volker
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On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 01:56:30PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> I just fear that my next installation will be broken because I removed
> far too much ;-)
As long as you fix these dependency bugs then instead of hiding them again by
readding the respective package to the selection it was at least
Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:35:10AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> Christoph Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q --whatrequires m4
>> > flex-2.5.31-18.5
>> > autoconf-2.59-92.3
>> > bison-2.1-13.3
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>
Stephan Kulow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 11:01 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
>> > I don't see why these are _required_...
>>
>> make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR.
> Huh? Not sure who spread that misinformation :)
Me spread it ;-) - but the
Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 11:01 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> > I don't see why these are _required_...
>
> make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR.
Huh? Not sure who spread that misinformation :)
Greetings, Stephan
-
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:35:10AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Christoph Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q --whatrequires m4
> > flex-2.5.31-18.5
> > autoconf-2.59-92.3
> > bison-2.1-13.3
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>
> >
> > Could be dropped, IIUC.
>
> Let's hope tha
Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:01:32AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR.
>
> Shouldn't it be required by the package that handles booting instead of
> putting it into this selection?
It should
Christoph Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>
>> >> m4
>> >> make
>> >
>> > I don't see why these are _required_...
>>
>> make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q --whatrequires m4
> flex-2.5.31-1
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:01:32AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR.
Shouldn't it be required by the package that handles booting instead of
putting it into this selection?
Robert
--
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Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker ma
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> >> m4
> >> make
> >
> > I don't see why these are _required_...
>
> make is required for booting. m4 is used in various place AFAIR.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q --whatrequires m4
flex-2.5.31-18.5
autoconf-2.59-92.3
bison-2.1-13.3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>
Christian Boltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Am Dienstag, 5. September 2006 16:42 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
>> Required (must have):
> [...]
>> cpp
>
> ???
> (only needed by xorg-x11 and gcc [on my 10.1 system] which are not in
> requirements)
Ok, will remove.
>> gnome-icon-theme
>
>
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Christian Boltz wrote:
> > openssh
>
> should probably be in recommended only
ssh and scp are very basic features. i think we should keep it unless we
define minimal as "without network"
> > reiserfs
>
> Nobody needs this *g,d&r*
if reiser still is default fs for install
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Christian Boltz wrote:
> > finger
>
> Is finger still used? IMHO fingerd disabled on most machines for
> security reasons, so there's no point in including the client in the
> default installation.
Yes, It is restricted to intranet. Very handy to use inside company
network to
Hello,
Am Dienstag, 5. September 2006 16:42 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> Required (must have):
[...]
> cpp
???
(only needed by xorg-x11 and gcc [on my 10.1 system] which are not in
requirements)
> gnome-icon-theme
Should be in a "X" or "Gnome" pattern instead. Nobody needs icons on
tty1 ;-)
> m
Em Quinta, 7 de Setembro de 2006 09:14, o Lukas Ocilka escreveu:
> Back in 90's I was used to have 'pico' and 'pine' in my system but the
> time has changed
Speaking of which, I think we should consider when installing nano that a
pico symlink is made to it, since it is a clone of it so that old
* Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 07. 2006 10:42]:
> jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > could it be possible to have with these lists an approximation of the
> > installed size of the packages?
>
> This is a problem due to dependencies :-(, I have no idea on how to do
> this easily.
I
jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> could it be possible to have with these lists an approximation of the
> installed size of the packages?
This is a problem due to dependencies :-(, I have no idea on how to do
this easily.
Let's strive for functionality,
Andreas
--
Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTE
jdd wrote:
> Rajko M a écrit :
>
>> Some editor has to be included and nano fits better because it's no
>> learning necessary type of editor, as mentioned in few other posts.
>
> we need mostly know the _size_ of nano and it's dependencies, more than
> the ease of use.
>
> I'm used on many linux
Rajko M a écrit :
Some editor has to be included and nano fits better because it's no
learning necessary type of editor, as mentioned in few other posts.
we need mostly know the _size_ of nano and it's
dependencies, more than the ease of use.
I'm used on many linux variants (from mulinux an
could it be possible to have with these lists an
approximation of the installed size of the packages?
it may not be worth discussing to gain bytes, only megabytes
are worth
thanks
jdd
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Heiko Helmle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>
>>
>> The target of this exercise for me was to get the default install
>> small - and have extra packages that many like in extra patterns.
>
> Well an additional exercise may be letting some yast2-modules stay
> away from 'base'.
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
The target of this exercise for me was to get the default install
small - and have extra packages that many like in extra patterns.
Well an additional exercise may be letting some yast2-modules stay away
from 'base'.
if i recall correctly DNS-Server or DHCP-Server modu
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Chema Ollés <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Felix Miata escribió:
>>> On 06/09/06 16:19 (GMT+0100) Ricardo Cruz apparently typed:
>>>
Anyway, if mc is installed by default, I don't get why joe is installed
by
default.
>>> My last install was a default, an
Peter Czanik wrote:
> Pavel Nemec wrote:
>>> Sorry if I start a text editors war, but the installation of joe by
>>> default
>>>
>> Please do not throw away joe from default.
>> If there is possible to vote for it, joe have my vote :)
>>
> And my vote too :-) It's the first package I instal
Hi,
Andras Mantia schrieb:
> I wonder if GNOME or other application have a similar backtrace
> generation tool or not, but if they do, the same dependency should be
> introduced there as well.
The GNOME counterpart is bug-buddy and it already has a dependency on gdb.
Andreas Hanke
Andras Mantia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:41, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> >> gdb
>> >
>> > ^^ remove?
>>
>> What do others think?
>
> gdb is needed to get backtraces e.g for KDE application. How much useful
> those are without -debug packages is another question
Chema Ollés <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Felix Miata escribió:
>> On 06/09/06 16:19 (GMT+0100) Ricardo Cruz apparently typed:
>>
>>> Anyway, if mc is installed by default, I don't get why joe is installed by
>>> default.
>>
>> My last install was a default, and mc was not in it. :-(
> Hi all
Ricardo Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyway, if mc is installed by default, I don't get why joe is installed by
> default.
mc is currently only part of the optional CONSOLE pattern,
Andreas
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Azerion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Op woensdag 6 september 2006 15:44, schreef Andreas Jaeger:
>> I've split the yast packages out now from my list into two lists:
>> * A server pattern that is not installed by default
>> * A YaST base pattern
>>
>> The default install will require the base pat
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 20:11, vetter wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Andras Mantia wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:41, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > > >> gdb
> > > >
> > > > Â ^^ remove?
> > >
> > > What do others think?
> >
> > gdb is needed to get backtraces e.g for KDE application
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:41, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > >> gdb
> > >
> > > ^^ remove?
> >
> > What do others think?
>
> gdb is needed to get backtraces e.g for KDE application. How much useful
> those are without -debug packages is another que
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 07:28:27PM +0300, Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:41, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > >> gdb
> > >
> > > ^^ remove?
> >
> > What do others think?
>
> gdb is needed to get backtraces e.g for KDE application. How much useful
So why not requiring this fr
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Felix Miata escribió:
> On 06/09/06 16:19 (GMT+0100) Ricardo Cruz apparently typed:
>
>> Anyway, if mc is installed by default, I don't get why joe is installed by
>> default.
>
> My last install was a default, and mc was not in it. :-(
Hi all:
I'
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 17:41, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> >> gdb
> >
> > ^^ remove?
>
> What do others think?
gdb is needed to get backtraces e.g for KDE application. How much useful
those are without -debug packages is another question, but I think we
should have this by default (and we c
On 06/09/06 16:19 (GMT+0100) Ricardo Cruz apparently typed:
> Anyway, if mc is installed by default, I don't get why joe is installed by
> default.
My last install was a default, and mc was not in it. :-(
--
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have, get understand
Em Quarta, 6 de Setembro de 2006 15:22, o Juan Erbes escreveu:
> 2006/9/6, Ricardo Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Em Quarta, 6 de Setembro de 2006 07:56, o Pavel Nemec escreveu:
> > > Dne Wednesday 06 September 2006 00:43 Ricardo Cruz napsal(a):
> > > > Sorry if I start a text editors war, but the i
Em Quarta, 6 de Setembro de 2006 15:42, o Peter Czanik escreveu:
> Pavel Nemec wrote:
> >> Sorry if I start a text editors war, but the installation of joe by
> >> default
> >
> > Please do not throw away joe from default.
> > If there is possible to vote for it, joe have my vote :)
>
> And my vote
Pavel Nemec wrote:
Sorry if I start a text editors war, but the installation of joe by default
Please do not throw away joe from default.
If there is possible to vote for it, joe have my vote :)
And my vote too :-) It's the first package I install on a server (the
KDE selection has it..
Christoph Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> tcpd
> ^^ remove?
Yes, we can - it should come in again via package requirements.
>> gdb
> ^^ remove?
What do others think?
>> gdbm
>> gettext
>> glibc-i18ndata
>> glibc-locale
>> gnome-filesystem
>> gpart
>> gpg
>> gpm
>> hal
>> hdparm
>> hfs
2006/9/6, Ricardo Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Em Quarta, 6 de Setembro de 2006 07:56, o Pavel Nemec escreveu:
> Dne Wednesday 06 September 2006 00:43 Ricardo Cruz napsal(a):
> > Sorry if I start a text editors war, but the installation of joe by
> > default
>
> Please do not throw away joe from def
* Azerion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sep 06. 2006 15:52]:
>
> I don't know the '+Prq'-thing and so on, so I don't know what it means,
"Prq" means "packages required".
See http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Dependencies
and http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Metadata/YaST/pattern
And also http://en.opensuse.o
Op woensdag 6 september 2006 15:57, schreef Christoph Thiel:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > I've split the yast packages out now from my list into two lists:
> > * A server pattern that is not installed by default
> > * A YaST base pattern
> >
> > The default install will require t
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> I've split the yast packages out now from my list into two lists:
> * A server pattern that is not installed by default
> * A YaST base pattern
>
> The default install will require the base pattern.
>
> Here's an updated list of files, I removed also a
Op woensdag 6 september 2006 15:44, schreef Andreas Jaeger:
> I've split the yast packages out now from my list into two lists:
> * A server pattern that is not installed by default
> * A YaST base pattern
>
> The default install will require the base pattern.
>
> Here's an updated list of files, I
I've split the yast packages out now from my list into two lists:
* A server pattern that is not installed by default
* A YaST base pattern
The default install will require the base pattern.
Here's an updated list of files, I removed also a couple of packages
From it that are in other patterns o
vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>
>> Recommended (should have):
>> postfix
> ...
>> Suggested (optional):
>> exim
>> sendmail
>
> should be:
> Recommended (should have):
> mta
smtp_daemon ;-)
>
> where postfix, exim or sendmail provide "mta"
Change
Em Quarta, 6 de Setembro de 2006 07:56, o Pavel Nemec escreveu:
> Dne Wednesday 06 September 2006 00:43 Ricardo Cruz napsal(a):
> > Sorry if I start a text editors war, but the installation of joe by
> > default
>
> Please do not throw away joe from default.
> If there is possible to vote for it, j
Dne Wednesday 06 September 2006 00:43 Ricardo Cruz napsal(a):
> Sorry if I start a text editors war, but the installation of joe by default
Please do not throw away joe from default.
If there is possible to vote for it, joe have my vote :)
--
Pavel Nemec
package-maintainer
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Azerion wrote:
>>> yast2-dhcp-server
>>> yast2-dns-server
>>> yast2-instserver
>>> yast2-nfs-server
>>> yast2-nis-server
>>> yast2-samba-server
>>> yast2-tftp-server
>> Configuring servers is not needed for clients, it could be in some
>> server-related pattern.
>>
>>> Recommended (should have):
>>
Op dinsdag 5 september 2006 16:51, schreef Lukas Ocilka:
> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > during one of our IRC meetings, I've been asked to discuss the size of
> > our core distribution. I'm appending the list below and would like to
> > hear your concrete suggestions. Some of the package
Andreas wrote:
> El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 15:43, Ricardo Cruz escribió:
>
>> What about shipping nano (the pico clone) instead of joe as
>> recommended?
>
> Yes, please.
> nano is so far the only editor I was able to use right away without
> reading, learing, taking college courses,
El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 15:43, Ricardo Cruz escribió:
> What about shipping nano (the pico clone) instead of joe as
> recommended?
Yes, please.
nano is so far the only editor I was able to use right away without
reading, learing, taking college courses, etc.
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Andreas
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Le mardi 5 septembre 2006 18:43, Ricardo Cruz a écrit :
> Em Terça, 5 de Setembro de 2006 15:42, o Andreas Jaeger escreveu:
> > Recommended (should have):
> > [...]
> > joe
> > [...]
>
> What about shipping nano (the pico clone) instead of joe as recommended?
> As far as I understand, the inclusio
Em Terça, 5 de Setembro de 2006 15:42, o Andreas Jaeger escreveu:
> Recommended (should have):
> [...]
> joe
> [...]
What about shipping nano (the pico clone) instead of joe as recommended? As
far as I understand, the inclusion of joe is to have a simpler alternative to
vim, so nano would make
On 06/09/05 17:27 (GMT+0200) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:
> Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Which from that list is an OFM?
> What do you mean with OFM?
http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/Ofm_01.shtml
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vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>
>> Recommended (should have):
>> postfix
> ...
>> Suggested (optional):
>> exim
>> sendmail
>
> should be:
> Recommended (should have):
Required ;-)
> mta
>
> where postfix, exim or sendmail provide "mta"
And we wo
Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Which from that list is an OFM?
What do you mean with OFM?
Andreas
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Recommended (should have):
> postfix
...
> Suggested (optional):
> exim
> sendmail
should be:
Recommended (should have):
mta
where postfix, exim or sendmail provide "mta"
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Which from that list is an OFM?
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Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> during one of our IRC meetings, I've been asked to discuss the size of
> our core distribution. I'm appending the list below and would like to
> hear your concrete suggestions. Some of the packages are needed by
> dependencies, we could split some packages into se
Hi,
during one of our IRC meetings, I've been asked to discuss the size of
our core distribution. I'm appending the list below and would like to
hear your concrete suggestions. Some of the packages are needed by
dependencies, we could split some packages into separate (optional)
patterns,
Andr
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