Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-23 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:31:31 +0200, Manfred Hollstein wrote: strings -a /usr/lib64/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.2.0.0 | fgrep /usr/lib /usr/lib64/apt/methods /usr/lib/apt/scripts As you can see the scripts will be looked up in the architecture independent location /usr/lib/apt (which is correct

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-18 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Thursday 17 August 2006 17:47 schrieb Christian Boltz: Hello, Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 13:57 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My proposal: KMail, evolution and Thunderbird [1] should come with the local mailbox account /var/spool/mail/username

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-18 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-08-18 09:24:50 +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote: (Yes, I know that there was a package wishlist in bugzilla already in pre-openSUSE times. And I wonder why it was moved to the wiki.) the wiki is way more flexibel here and you can also see all the other package wishes in the same are

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Marcus Meissner
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z relro (see http://people.redhat.com/drepper/nonselsec.pdf) I currently can't see a disadvantage of using this one thus unless someone could actually see one I'd go the same way. Actually we made binutils enable relro by default in Factory yesterday or so. So all

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Am Mittwoch, 16. August 2006 16:44 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Will this work? It depends on some points: - you should give some more background information about the topics - I'll insert some questions regarding this below. I don't know

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Mauricio Teixeira (netmask)
Em Qui, 2006-08-17 às 12:08 +0200, Andreas Jaeger escreveu: We have to figure this out for each script. It might be done in the postinstall of the packages that need it - but only there. Not for unrelated stuff. IMHO that should be the desired action, since if you manage packages using rug

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My proposal: KMail, evolution and Thunderbird [1] should come with the local mailbox account /var/spool/mail/username preconfigured so that system mails will be received automatically. Please add this as a feature request on the wiki, Andreas --

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Mauricio Teixeira (netmask)
Em Qui, 2006-08-17 às 13:04 +0200, Andreas Hanke escreveu: At least rug runs SuSEconfig after each transaction, and it's _painful_ compared to YaST because other than YaST, it doesn't show what it does, Well, I've never used rug, so I was not sure about it. Regarding smart, it's an old

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Manfred Hollstein
Hi there, On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, 14:15:58 +0200, Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) wrote: Em Qui, 2006-08-17 às 13:04 +0200, Andreas Hanke escreveu: At least rug runs SuSEconfig after each transaction, and it's _painful_ compared to YaST because other than YaST, it doesn't show what it does,

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Mauricio Teixeira (netmask) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Em Qui, 2006-08-17 às 13:04 +0200, Andreas Hanke escreveu: At least rug runs SuSEconfig after each transaction, and it's _painful_ compared to YaST because other than YaST, it doesn't show what it does, Well, I've never used rug, so I

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 14:06 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: FYI, this is RFC for the SuSEconfig discussion written by a colleague. WE do not just want to remove it - we also have to figure out to replace it... Perhaps you could also split from another point of view: Class E: scripts, which

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Manfred Hollstein schrieb: This would be a design error in the first place, I'd say, as rug knows (should know, at least...) about the _whole_ set of transactions, so it should run SuSEconfig just once, which is at the end of the whole set of transactions. That's just a misunderstanding,

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 13:57 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My proposal: KMail, evolution and Thunderbird [1] should come with the local mailbox account /var/spool/mail/username preconfigured so that system mails will be received

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Am Donnerstag, 17. August 2006 13:57 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My proposal: KMail, evolution and Thunderbird [1] should come with the local mailbox account /var/spool/mail/username preconfigured so

[opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-16 Thread Andreas Jaeger
We have an internal meeting every few weeks called dist meeting that discusses major technical changes in our distribution. Since it's not possible for most of you to attend it, I'd like to try an experiment and share the agenda before the meeting - and the meeting minutes afterwards with

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-16 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The packagers have started already with the first packages, we want to discuss the timeframe for the move and the move of GNOME to /usr (from /opt/gnome). I really like this move. I am just concerned that there will not be enough time in

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-16 Thread Robert Schiele
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 06:42:44PM +0200, Christian Boltz wrote: Hello, Am Mittwoch, 16. August 2006 16:44 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Will this work? It depends on some points: - you should give some more background information about the topics - I'll insert some questions regarding this

Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda

2006-08-16 Thread James Oakley
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 11:44 am, Andreas Jaeger wrote: * update messages general/conditional (e.g. bind) During update of packages they could notify users about changes via email and/or the SuSEplugger (until 10.0, this is not anymore in 10.1). Most of these are outdated and not