RE: [OS-webwork] Concern and Opinions

2003-01-14 Thread Vedovato Paolo
I also did some reflection on this issue and François summed up nicely all my thoughts. I completely agree with him. -Paolo >-Original Message- >From: Francois Beauregard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:35 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [OS-webwork] Co

[OS-webwork] Concern and Opinions

2003-01-14 Thread Francois Beauregard
Part of the message was lost on the way. Here is (hopefully) the complete one. I am concerned that the next version of WebWork (or XWork) will be built in a sandbox mode. I hope the sandbox is just a place to try things and design stuff. When features and ideas are stable enough they should be bro

Re: [OS-webwork] Concern and Opinions

2003-01-14 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Yup, that's the plan. Sandbox is still all about hasing out ideas (although the codebase is probably more stable than webwork, if only because it's got good unit test coverage in place). -Pat - Original Message - From: "Francois Beauregard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent

[OS-webwork] Concern and Opinions

2003-01-14 Thread Francois Beauregard
I am concerned that the next version of WebWork (or XWork) will be built in a sandbox mode. I hope the sandbox is just a place to try things and design stuff. When features and ideas are stable enough they should be brought into the actual code base in a 'refactor the code' way. WebWork's code has

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes
Kirk, Ahh - I would suggest that you update CVS, it is much, much faster and most of these performance improvements have already been made :) Cheers, Mike On 15/1/03 1:10 PM, "Kirk Rasmussen" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: > Mike, > I should qualify that I am running the 1.2.1 build for m

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Dick, The changes you've submitter have been added to CVS. Thanks! -Pat - Original Message - From: "Dick Zetterberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:25 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4 > Mike, > > Aren't you worried about the non-t

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Bruce Ritchie
Kirk Rasmussen wrote: Has anyone profiled webwork with JProbe or similar tools to look for hot spots that could be optimized? Yes, but it was some time ago. I'm probably going to profile it again once I decide to update the webwork version that Jive is using (currently 1.2.1 + a lot of cvs cha

RE: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Kirk Rasmussen
Mike, I should qualify that I am running the 1.2.1 build for my tests. I have not tried 1.3 RC1 yet. However, even when I eliminated the tag and used a straight to product the select list it only reduced the execution time to 10 secs versus 13 secs. To me this poses a significant problem,

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Mike Cannon-Brookes
Kirk, Well - yes and no. JIRA uses OSCache, but not for the UI tags. None of those are cached at all, and we have literally hundreds ;) OSCache is only used where certain pages take a long time to generate for various reasons (most often because of the computations required to calculate the data

RE: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Kirk Rasmussen
Not really. It gets its speed because the template is single purpose -- i.e. for creating the select list for countries (254 elements). The list is not passed in to the template. The list is obtained by calling another action within the template. This was just one example of how to optimize

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Yup, Kirk's option here is the best way to get immediate performance improvements. I've made a very generic "selectfastmap.jsp" template for large lists of Map objects. Works much faster. -Pat - Original Message - From: "Kirk Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tu

RE: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Jason Carreira
Could this be applied as a patch of some sort to the template for the select ui component? > -Original Message- > From: Kirk Rasmussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4 > > > I assume th

RE: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Kirk Rasmussen
I assume that JIRA uses OSCache, right? Jive 3.0 default skin uses webwork also but they avoid the UI tags completely. Here is what I did to make my countries list very fast. It isn't ideal but it works and it was plugin compatible to the tag. FYI I got the execution time down from 13 sec

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Peter Kelley
Mike, We use JIRA and the performance is fine but our product webwork code performance is awful at the moment. Have you any tips for the performance challenged ? On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 16:00, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote: > Kirk, > > As a guide, we've been shipping code based on 1.3 for a few mont

Re: A plea - WAS Re: [OS-webwork] Reflection

2003-01-14 Thread Peter Kelley
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 21:17, Robert Nicholson wrote: > Why does it have to be a MDB? Can't you just make a listener? What will > an MDB buy you? > In a word: transactions (oh also instance caching for tuning but that would be more than 1 word :) ) We use a lot of MDBs in our app for these reaso

[OS-webwork] passing parameters to a field validator

2003-01-14 Thread Ken Keller
I see you use PropertyDescriptor to do field validation. How do I pass parameters to propertyEditorClass so I can re-use a validator across different fields? Example: Suppose I have an IntegerValidator which can check a range.   Have you guys thought about adding a field group validation me

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Justen Stepka
Maybe the way that FreeBSD does their source management would be a good approach for ww/xwork/open symphony? They always have HEAD/CURRENT which is the latest and greatest, they then branch off from there to create the various versions. For example: XWORK 2.0 would be HEAD/CURRENT 1.3 1.2 1.1 I

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Bill Lynch
Kirk, I think new users will tend to download the most stable version of a product instead of the latest cutting edge version especially when documentation is lacking. What do you guys think? Is 1.2 a lost cause at this point? Is it better to focus on the 1.3 release only? I agree completel

Re: [OS-webwork] newbie: should I use 1.3 or 1.2.1?

2003-01-14 Thread Justen Stepka
I would suggest using 1.3.. I have been using it from CVS for a large number of projects and it's worked out great. There are many bug fixes that you would surely run into with 1.2. The documentation does need some help, if you read the JDJ (Dec issue) I have pointed this out. There are ways aroun

Re: [OS-webwork] Bug in PrefixActionFactoryProxy? + patch

2003-01-14 Thread Bruce Ritchie
Great catch! Dick Zetterberg wrote: I have found a line of code in the factory PrefixActionFactoryProxy that I think is erroneous. It prevents all lookups of action names with prefixes from being cached. This means that for EACH action invocation you get something like 3-5 tries (depending on yo

Re: [OS-webwork] Bug in PrefixActionFactoryProxy? + patch

2003-01-14 Thread Patrick Lightbody
+1 to that - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Bug in PrefixActionFactoryProxy? + patch > Thanks Dick! Dick is on a role here and I would like to > propose to giv

Re: [OS-webwork] Bug in PrefixActionFactoryProxy? + patch

2003-01-14 Thread Patrick Lightbody
Great catch Dick! We were actually just running in to a problem with this very recently. I'll be sure to get this in, as well as your PropertyEditor fix, right away. -Pat - Original Message - From: "Dick Zetterberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 20

Re: [OS-webwork] Bug in PrefixActionFactoryProxy? + patch

2003-01-14 Thread matt
Thanks Dick! Dick is on a role here and I would like to propose to give him R/W access so he can apply his patches since most of us don't seem to have the time. -Matt On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, "Dick Zetterberg" wrote: > > I have found a line of code in the factory > PrefixActionFactoryProxy that I

RE: A plea - WAS Re: [OS-webwork] Reflection

2003-01-14 Thread Jason Carreira
Well, for me it's just easier. I can slap an MDB into our system here in a matter of minutes with Xdoclet building the deployment descriptors. I'm not sure if this is something that would go into Webwork or just us put it into our system. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Nicholson [mail

[OS-webwork] Bug in PrefixActionFactoryProxy? + patch

2003-01-14 Thread Dick Zetterberg
I have found a line of code in the factory PrefixActionFactoryProxy that I think is erroneous. It prevents all lookups of action names with prefixes from being cached. This means that for EACH action invocation you get something like 3-5 tries (depending on your webwork.properties) to find the cor

[OS-webwork] Mailing list etiquette

2003-01-14 Thread Philipp Meier
Hello everyone, I don't want to be a killjoy, but can we please aggree on a minimum of rules on this mailing list. When quoting somebody else's message - Remove all parts you do not refer to. This improves the signal to noise ratio. - Put you comments "inline", that means directly below

Re: [OS-webwork] WW, XWork newbie,

2003-01-14 Thread Hani Suleiman
What xwork is isn't clearly defined yet. What there is is some sandbox code for testing new ideas and playing around. I think the following is correct though... - xwork is touted as a 'next generation of webwork', so it's not a new version per se. It certainly will not be backward compatible fro

Re: A plea - WAS Re: [OS-webwork] Reflection

2003-01-14 Thread Hani Suleiman
Clustering, pooling, tx, container managed, all that and more! Quoting Robert Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Why does it have to be a MDB? Can't you just make a listener? What will > an MDB buy you? > > On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 11:13 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: > > > Funny, we were jus

Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4

2003-01-14 Thread Dick Zetterberg
Mike, Aren't you worried about the non-threadsafe PropertyEditor caching in the 1.3RC1 release? I certainly was, which is why I made a patch for it that I submitted to the list (and Jira) last week. I have not heard much comments about it yet though. Is it ok to add this patch to CVS? If no commi

Re: A plea - WAS Re: [OS-webwork] Reflection

2003-01-14 Thread Robert Nicholson
Why does it have to be a MDB? Can't you just make a listener? What will an MDB buy you? On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 11:13 PM, Jason Carreira wrote: Funny, we were just talking about this here today. We've got a simple command pattern implementation for running batch jobs now, and I was talk

Re: [OS-webwork] WW, XWork newbie,

2003-01-14 Thread Joseph Ottinger
I don't think we're sure yet. On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Joel Cordonnier wrote: > > Hi ! > > Can someone explain me what is XWork really !? Just a new version of WW, with >additional functonalities, or WW with basic API implementation (Portlet API..). > > This question, because i want to

[OS-webwork] WW, XWork newbie,

2003-01-14 Thread Joel Cordonnier
Hi ! Can someone explain me what is XWork really !? Just a new version of WW, with additional functonalities, or WW with basic API implementation (Portlet API..). This question, because i want to port the Websphere Portal Server / portlet API to WW, if possible. Is it better to switch to XWork ? Th