Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Guy Harris
On Oct 26, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > LINKTYPE_USB_LINUX_MMAPPED220 > USB packets, beginning with a Linux USB header, as specified by the > struct usbmon_packet in the Documentation/usb/usbmon.txt file in the > Linux source tree. All 64 bytes of the

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Carsten Bormann
> On 26. Oct 2021, at 20:57, Michael Richardson wrote: > > > Here is an example of a LINKTYPE that would be very difficult to explain if > it weren't in the context of a pcap/pcapng file. … > LINKTYPE_USB_LINUX_MMAPPED220 > USB packets, beginning with a Linux USB header, as specified

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Michael Richardson
Here is an example of a LINKTYPE that would be very difficult to explain if it weren't in the context of a pcap/pcapng file. If this goes into a new document, then would it have a normative? informative? reference to... pcap and pcapng? I was assuming that pcap and pcapng would wind up with

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Michael Richardson
Carsten Bormann wrote: >> That's being done by the pcap document. >> (It could be done by a third document, but that seems wasteful) > It seems appropriate to have a third document. > I don’t see the waste, only process improvement. I'm not convinced that the IESG review of the

Re: [OPSAWG] (no subject)

2021-10-26 Thread RFC ISE (Adrian Farrel)
PMFJI (and also for top-posting on a random email in the thread) If your intention is to have an IANA registry, then please note that the Independent Stream has a strong aversion to publishing documents that create registries (see RFC 8726). I leave it to the WG to decide whether a registry is

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Michael Richardson
<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign> Qin Wu wrote: cabo> One way to do this would be to jump-start the process by a short cabo> document establishing this registry, with a defined registration cabo> policy. > [Qin] Good proposal, agree with this. So the proposal, in order to

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Michael Richardson
Carsten Bormann wrote: > Pcapng is a format different from pcap. > It’s a bit like IPv4 and IPv6. And like IPv4 and IPv6, which happen to share TCP and UDP and therefore a port number registry... pcap and pcapng share a linktype registry. -- Michael Richardson. o O ( IPv6 IøT

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 26. Oct 2021, at 15:44, Michael Richardson wrote: > > That's being done by the pcap document. > (It could be done by a third document, but that seems wasteful) It seems appropriate to have a third document. I don’t see the waste, only process improvement. Grüße, Carsten

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Michael Richardson
Guy Harris wrote: > I would vote for "both should point to a common location" so that > neither the pcap nor the pcapng spec says "there is *the* list of > link-layer types" - it points to a registry, and as more types are > added to the registry, more specs can be published

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Michael Richardson
Qin Wu wrote: > I am not against this draft. I am just thinking whether Independent > submission stream process is a better choice for this document in the > first round when WG and IESG have no change control to this work. Upon > this work get published as RFC >

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Carsten Bormann
> I have no idea what a second round would be. > The pcap format needs to be published only once. > > [Qin Wu] My impression is that pcap will be the first and pcapng will derive > from it. Maybe I am wrong, I am not clear > the relation between these two. These are independent formats that

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Qin Wu
-邮件原件- 发件人: Carsten Bormann [mailto:c...@tzi.org] 发送时间: 2021年10月26日 15:18 收件人: Guy Harris 抄送: Qin Wu ; opsawg@ietf.org 主题: Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02 On 26. Oct 2021, at 09:00, Guy Harris wrote: > > I would vote for "both should point to a common

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Vladimir Vassilev
On 25/10/2021 18.27, Michael Richardson wrote: On 2021-10-20 12:40 p.m., Michael Richardson wrote: On 2021-10-04 4:00 p.m., Henk Birkholz wrote: Dear OPSAWG members, this starts a call for Working Group Adoption of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Qin Wu
-邮件原件- 发件人: Carsten Bormann [mailto:c...@tzi.org] 发送时间: 2021年10月26日 14:35 收件人: Qin Wu 抄送: opsawg@ietf.org 主题: Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02 Hi Qin, On 26. Oct 2021, at 03:43, Qin Wu wrote: > > I am not against this draft. I am just thinking whether

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 26. Oct 2021, at 09:00, Guy Harris wrote: > > I would vote for "both should point to a common location" so that neither the > pcap nor the pcapng spec says "there is *the* list of link-layer types" - it > points to a registry, and as more types are added to the registry, more specs > can

[OPSAWG] FW: New Version Notification for draft-palmero-opsawg-dmlmo-02.txt

2021-10-26 Thread Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero)
Dear OPSA WG, We've uploaded a new version for the DMLMO draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palmero-opsawg-dmlmo/ Main changes tracked under the "change log" section: version 02 * "Support case" renamed to "incident". * Add MAC address and IP address attributes under

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Guy Harris
On Oct 25, 2021, at 11:34 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > No document here has to wait for any other document to be published. Currently: draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02 contains its own list of values for the LinkType field in the file header; draft-tuexen-opsawg-pcapng-02 points

Re: [OPSAWG]  WG Adoption Call for draft-gharris-opsawg-pcap-02

2021-10-26 Thread Carsten Bormann
Hi Qin, On 26. Oct 2021, at 03:43, Qin Wu wrote: > > I am not against this draft. I am just thinking whether Independent > submission stream process is a better choice for this document I’m not sure which “this document” you are discussing here, as Michael asked about both pcap and pcapng.