Thank you very much
Regards
Vaishali
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Hi!
Is anybody out there familiar with OWB setup an config?
We are having problems with the OWB-specific-listener required for OWB.
This is OWB 9.0.4 on HP-UX 11.11
Thanks,
Helmut
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I heard that Lego is one a big user of RDB. Don't know if it's true.
Patrice.
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:04 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I believe it *is* still sold; it is certainly still supported. As to why
you would buy it, I don't know
Hi
Some coworkers implemented an application using C# and the MS .NET provider
for Oracle (9.0.1 DB).
One thing I can remember: Mapping C#'s float datatype to Oracle FLOAT (or
NUMBER(...)) somehow didn't work that great.
Another thing was that they could not use transaction processing via the
It doesn't use the exclude, but it would do what you want:
cd /home/user01
tar -cvf /dev/rmt0 mark01 mark02
where /dev/rmt0 is your tape device, or you can substitute a disk destination.
HTH,
Mike
All,
We are putting up a new Java application that is running under WebSphere.
WebSphere uses two different schema's - the one where the application tables
are all built, and another schema that contains one table (SESSIONS) that it
uses to keep track of the application. This SESSIONS table has
And then Tanel wrote:
TP BTW, you can do this in 9i as well...
Really? I think when you get down to it, there are some
prerequisites to worry about. I just tried the following:
C:\Documents and Settings\Jonathansqlplus /nolog
SQL*Plus: Release 10.1.0.0.0 - Beta on Mon Nov 24 21:07:30 2003
Hi gurus,
Oracle 8.1.7.4 on Windows 2000
Yesterday I wanted to move 2 datafiles (for the same tablespace) to another
disk.
1- I placed my tablespace offline
2- I copied my 2 datafiles
3- I altered my controlfiles to reflect the new path
4- I brought my tablespace back online
5- I backuped up my
Hi list,
Need a little help with this, have seen in metalink both ways with and without the
equal (=) sign. What is wrong with this script, am getting an error in SETSIZE; I
removed it and the same error.
run
{
allocate channel c1 type disk
format
Title: RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA
I was
informed last night that they accepted my seminar proposal, I will be doing an
introductory session on how to administer Oracle databases.
Hope
to see many of you in Toronto next April.
In the
meantime if there are questions you would
Luc,
The next time you bounce the database you will be able to delete the files.
Windows keeps a lock on these files for some odd reason.
In a way, it's better than Unix. You can't delete Windows Oracle files
while the database is open, but in Unix you can.
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified
Tom,
I didn't know that I absolutely have to bounce the database.
Tx
Luc
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Sent: November 25, 2003 8:36 AM
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Cc: Demanche, Luc
Luc,
The next time you bounce the database you will be able to delete the files.
Windows keeps a lock on these
Tuesday, November 25, 2003, 7:04:25 AM, Boivin, Patrice J ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
BPJ I heard that Lego is one a big user of RDB. Don't know if it's true.
As in Lego blocks? Cool.
Heh, I just spent the better part of my Sunday afternoon
buying compartmentized boxes and helping my son sort
Luc,
Its weird. I've seen it both ways. Sometimes, Windows releases the lock
and allows you to delete the file, and sometimes it doesn't. Bouncing the
database always allows you to do it.
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25,
Tuesday, November 25, 2003, 8:04:25 AM, Tanel Poder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
TP Ok, it's not as simple as with RDB... You still need to start the instance.
You'd need to create a control file first, wouldn't you? Or
would all that default as well. Hmmm I should probably
try it some time. I
list lurker off
Same opinion here, my company is in the process of migrating our software to
run on Oracle 9iR2. Currently, we have over 325 production sites that have
RDB databases running. RDB is a single schema database so each customer
site has multiple databases running. Very easy to
Jonathan Gennick scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
Tuesday, November 25, 2003, 7:04:25 AM, Boivin, Patrice J
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I heard that Lego is one a big user of RDB. Don't know if it's true.
As in Lego blocks? Cool.
AFAIK, it's THE largest user of RDB. but that was
What is most likely happening is that a server, as in client dedicated, has an
interest in those files consequently Windoze won't let you delete then until the end
user terminates their session. Now while Unix won't give you an error in this
situation you'll notice that you don't get the disk
On 11/25/2003 07:39:30 AM, Stefan Jahnke wrote:
Hi
How is it, that data
providers can be in incompatible in .NET ?
Stefan
Stefan, lets talk about obscene language. As you know, obscene
language is not always the same. The phrase zum Donnerwetter can
and will be understood as swearing,
.. and the reason you don't get the space back immediately is
because the file is still open, and not actually deleted yet.
Jared
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 06:24, Goulet, Dick wrote:
What is most likely happening is that a server, as in client dedicated, has an
interest in those files
The problem is most likely in the JDBC driver, not the database. I've run into
similar problems with JDBC and ODBC drivers in the past. I've got to agree with IBM,
upgrade the driver all should be well.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Sent:
In a way, it's better than Unix. You can't delete Windows Oracle files
while the database is open, but in Unix you can.
In a way, it's a real pain in the butt.
Try looking at log files that are held open by other apps
while they write to them. No problem on unix, often impossible
on windows.
hmmm...
I think I meant OCITransCommit() there, not OCITransRollback().
Nobody caught that? :)
Jared
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 18:29, Jared Still wrote:
OCI defaults to rollback on transactions on disconnect if
OCITransRollback() has not been called.
Don't ask me for too much detail, as I'm
Title: RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA
It
occurred to me that there probably aren't many new DBAs on the list...
LOL
Patrice.
-Original Message-From: Boivin, Patrice J
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003
9:19 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list
Hi Mladen
Nice metaphor. Did you intentionally use zum Donnerwetter as a little word
play on MS's Hailstorm - project (R.I.P.) ?. That get's pretty close to
obscene language, too. I guess I was actually gullible enough to believe
that .NET might be comparable to the Java world. Maybe not ;). Or
I never rely on tar to do that. Here is the trick that I use when I want to be
selective:
tar zcvf /tmp/test1.tgz `perl -e 'foreach (*.pl) { if (/connect/) {print $_\n;}}'`
Basically, you write a small perl script which will output only the files
you want and hand that to tar. Works each and
I've said it before and I'll say it again...coding for RDB was a dream.
Instead of having to rely on a preparser, there was a separate compiler
that tokenized your SQL code into a object module to be linked with your
program(s). Aside from making program maintenance potentially easier, it
also
Thanks Dick. I agree it's not a database problem, but they try and push it
my way because it's Oracle. I'm pushing back.
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
The problem is
Where's our Award-Winning Educator and former Lego DBA, Mogens? If there is
one dream job for me, it would be an Oracle DBA at Lego.
And I was upset to find that someone took my legoman username from my ISP
at home. :(
Rich
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
A wild one here - but has anyone stuffed PowerPoint files into Oracle,
together with associated metadata? Either complete (the easier solution) or
decomposed for easier review.
thanks,
peter
edinburgh
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Actually, it was a deliberate word play, just to remind you
that not all MS projects are successful. They were talking about
porting .NOT to Unix, but gave up. It's a MS-only world.
On 11/25/2003 09:54:51 AM, Stefan Jahnke wrote:
Hi Mladen
Nice metaphor. Did you intentionally use zum
tar cvf /tmp/test1.tar `perl -e 'foreach
On 11/25/2003 12:24:26 AM, Ross Collado wrote:
Hello,
On Solaris 8
I can't seem to get the tar command right. I wanted to tar a directory but
EXCLUDE one of the subdirectory in it.
Example:
/home/user01
/home/user01/mark01
Does anybody know what the SZ is represents(SUN SOLARIS)
ps -efly | egrep 'ora|SZ'
bach# ps -efly | egrep 'oracle|SZ'
S UID PID PPID C PRI
NI RSS SZ WCHANSTIME TTY TIME CMD
S oracle 27845 1 0 77 20596552 617600? 02:00:04
?0:26
Hi All,
We have some batch loading jobs that truncate the tables first, then insert
into the tables as select from tables through database link. Those jobs run
daily. Every time when those jobs run, they cause cannot allocate new log,
Checkpoint not complete. All of tables and their indexes
How big are yor redo logs? How many o them do you have?
On 11/25/2003 10:29:37 AM, David Boyd wrote:
Hi All,
We have some batch loading jobs that truncate the tables first, then insert
into the tables as select from tables through database link. Those jobs run
daily. Every time when
Side note on this - while you can delete files that are in use by Oracle on
UNIX, you have not actually deleted them until there are no processes
accessing that file anymore. The file will no longer be there to other
applications, but the space used by that now-deleted file will not be
released
We are using the latest ODP.net provider and up until we upgraded to 92040 had few and
minor problems with it. Mostly it was differences between all of the different drivers
that our programmers were using based on either the cycles of the moon or which team
won the World Series. Since we went
Tuesday, November 25, 2003, 10:04:39 AM, Jesse, Rich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
JR Instead of having to rely on a preparser, there was a separate compiler
JR that tokenized your SQL code into a object module to be linked with your
JR program(s).
Yeah, the module compiler was cool. I once wrote a
I have to remember that as a good example for my wife's German classes.
Stefan
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Von: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2003 16:20
An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Betreff: Re: Experiences with Oracle and MS .Net data
David Boyd wrote:
Hi All,
We have some batch loading jobs that truncate the tables first, then
insert into the tables as select from tables through database link.
Those jobs run daily. Every time when those jobs run, they cause
cannot allocate new log, Checkpoint not complete. All of
Maybe can use -prune option of find to send file list to tar:
cd /home
find ./user01 -name mark03 -prune -o -print
-Original Message-
I can't seem to get the tar command right. I wanted to tar
a directory but
EXCLUDE one of the subdirectory in it.
Example:
/home/user01
If you do happen to erroneously delete an open file on unix,
you can recover from it if you keep your wits about you
and don't panic.
oh yeah. working on another DBA's databases (he was out ill), and
rushed in the wrong directory when gzipping and moving files to
free up space.
Because
You can use the -L option and have a file listing everything you want
ie, ls file
edit file and remove the dir you don't want
tar files with the -L option and the file you created above.
never done this myself
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To:
We have 5 groups of redo log. Each group has two members. Each member is
100 MB.
David
From: Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: insert in batch loading
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:44:33 -0800
How
Janne,
Thanks for your reply.
We have 6 redo log switchings during inserting a table that has 1 million
records. Our redo log size (100 MB) dominates the checkpoint frequency.
The table has two indexes. We don't set them to unusable during inserting.
David
From: Jan Korecki [EMAIL
Title: RMAN Script
Hi list,
Need a little help with this, have seen in metalink both ways with and without the equal (=) sign. What is wrong with this script, am getting an error in SETSIZE; I removed it and the same error.
run
{
allocate channel c1 type disk
format
Friends --
Looks like Dell is moving call centers from India to Texas and Tennessee.
Seems that the folks in India, while very polite, have thick accents. Um.
Thick, non-Texan, accents. Anyway, this may bode well for us technical
folks if this [and the previously discussed article] are the
Absolutely.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:04 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Thanks Dick. I agree it's not a database problem, but they try and push it
my way because it's Oracle. I'm pushing
Boris,
Cary is correct. It gets a little confusing, especially with pl/sql
involved. It also helps to remember to differentiate between database
calls (parse/execute/fetch) and other events (wait/stat).
Using your example below, I'll attempt an explanation inline.
Daniel Fink
Boris Dali wrote:
Title: RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA
If I was doing a introductory administration
session, I'd emphasize the right way of thinking the most. That is
1) Always make sure that you know what you're doing
and what are the potential consequences of your doings
2)Do not do extensive
Bambi,
I'm afraid I read something different in that story, but equally pleasant.
Like a lot of things in this world sometimes we need to push the press-to-test
button and see how the shoe fits before making up our minds. Companies I believe
needed to do the same thing with
Jared, actually your initial post made sense anyway - since you can't roll
back committed transactions anyway. Also, rollback is done on session end if
you haven't done the rollback manually ;)
Tanel.
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man pages states(-y converts it to Kb instead of pages):
SZ (l)
The total size of the process in virtual memory,
including all mapped files and devices, in pages. See
pagesize(1).
What does this mean? Does this mean that peocess 27845 is
i heard it was just the corporate call centers coming back? not the private call
centers?
dell tech support isnt any good no matter where it is. its just an entry level
position. The guys who get good move up or on to other things. gateway is bad too.
From: Bellow, Bambi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This approach might cause problems, if you have really lots of files - your
shell argument buffer (or whatever is the correct name for it) becomes full
Tanel.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:54 PM
I
Then I'll pipe it to cpio -H tar, which will solve the problem.
On 11/25/2003 01:24:26 PM, Tanel Poder wrote:
This approach might cause problems, if you have really lots of files - your
shell argument buffer (or whatever is the correct name for it) becomes full
Tanel.
- Original
Title: Active Directory and ORACLE passwords
Hi all,
Has anyone heard of or seen any information on using Active Directory for password rules
and authentication to an ORACLE database. An example would be that Active Directory
would set up the rules for the password and the time that the
Hey all,
Running Oracle 9.2.0.4 on Linux, I've noticed several files in /tmp owned by
the oracle user:
BEQ10202 DCE10202 DEC10202 I1S2 ISPX10202 ITCP10202 LU6210202
NMP10202 RAW10202 SPX10202 TCP10202 TCPS10202 US10202 VI10202
BEQ29871 DCE29871 DEC29871 I2S4 ISPX29871 ITCP29871
Does that mean that we will not have to replace ourselves with the
cheap labor from Elbonia?
On 11/25/2003 12:49:31 PM, Bellow, Bambi wrote:
Friends --
Looks like Dell is moving call centers from India to Texas and Tennessee.
Seems that the folks in India, while very polite, have thick
On 11/25/2003 11:44:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe can use -prune option of find to send file list to tar:
Why do it in a simple way when there is an opportunity to (ab)use perl?
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
Note:
This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain
We had a weird situation yesterday on
a database that had been upgraded from 8.1.6 to 9.2.0.1 over the weekend.
Suddenly at 10:30 am, after being in production for a day and a half,
93 previously VALID packages, package bodies, triggers and procedures went
INVALID. We have not been able to figure
Hi all.
Two users have received ora-8176 error while running
their reports today. These reports have been accessing
the tables against which an alter table exchange
partition command was performed possibly while the
reports were being executed. Based on what I read
about the 8176 error on
David - I hope you get some good replies. I asked about this awhile back and
there didn't seem to be any sites getting MSAD and Oracle LDAP working. Part
of the problem is that the world's #1 and #2 software companies don't talk
much.
I think your first obstacle is finding out the LDAP
List,
Has anybody seen this behavior or know the work around. I am doing a full
import into a 9i (9.2.0.1.0) database from an Oracle 8i (8.1.7.4.0)
database. The users are not pre-created and anytime it wants to import a
user who owns objects it fails and gives:
. importing USER's objects into
if you work for a PHB, then yes. We will miss you Mladen ...
Raj
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.
QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion
db will _try_ to recompile any code that is encountered after it gets
marked as invalid. So, it may not be a bug after all.
Raj
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot
com All Views expressed in this email
Good points, Tanel. More to the point, forget about
formulating a backup strategy. Focus on a recovery
strategy.
RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBAIf I was doing a
introductory administration session, I'd emphasize the
right way of thinking the most. That is
1) Always make sure that
We
have been seeing this ever since we went to 9i and in multiple calls to Oracle
support they have not been of much help.
Most
of the time we get an error dump in udumo and things go on there merry way.
A couple of times the packages go invalid and wont work but when looking
at them thru
Hi Victoria
Are you sure that nobody alter some table or view include in these pkgs ??.
Mariano
Database Administrator.
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Subject: Valid Packages/Procedures/Triggers that are NOT
Date:
I just did one of those this weekend
(from 8.1.6 to 9.2.0.1). I created an empty 9i database with all
the tablespaces before starting the import. The full=y errored
out , but it did create the users before it died. I had to go back
and do schema imports for each user.
Vicki Pierce
Database
Victoria, there is a whole slew of bugs with upgrade and patch application.
Here are two of them:
Patch 3099699
Description REPCA: CATPATCH LEAVES RDBMS UNUSABLE (INVALID OBJECTS IN, LBACSYS
[OLS])
Patch 2949941
Description RULES ENGINE OBJECTS BECOME INVALID AFTER UPGRADE
There are
What does it mean that redo log size dominates checkpoint frequency?
It brings to mind cases of Edmund Blackadder and Baldrick or Ace Rimmer
and Lister Kryten, both very clear cases of domination. I'm sure
that J. Lewis, as a Britt, can tell you more about Black Adder and Red Dwarf,
despite the
Oracle has gone back to Oracle Application Server as the name for iAS, it
seems.
Oracle Web Server 3.0.1.1 (1998 says the manual)
Oracle (Web) Application Server 4.0 (? 1999 ?)
Oracle Application Server 4.0.8.2 (May 2000 for Windows)
Oracle Internet Application Server 8i 1.0.1 (August 2000 for
What I meant is that checkpoint occurs only when redo log switches. We set
log_checkpoint_interval = 21 and our OS block size is 512. If I
increase the size of redo log to 500 MB, checkpoint will occur before log
switching. Will the transaction wait until checkpoint complete during
Hello All,
We have a huge table both is terms of number of columns and rows. It is
list partitioned. it has 7 mill rows and its avg row length is 600
bytes. One of the developers has come up with a method of truncating
and reloading the table on a daily basis thorough sqlloader. everyday
The original problem is that packages go invalid in the middle of the day with no
upgrading going on,
no physical changes happening in the database, nothing happening except the normal
day-to-day operation
of the system.
We have seen this happening since 8i.
We recently upgraded to 92040
Hi!
I suggest you set up a test where you check the redo.
For example:
- start test
SQL select LOG_MODE from v$database;
LOG_MODE
ARCHIVELOG
SQL create table append_test as select * from all_objects where 1=2;
Table created.
SQL create index append_test_ind on
When dropping a tablespace, we've had better success deleting the files by the delete
command from CMD rather than using Windows Explorer.
Also, found that you need to wait a period of time before you can delete the file - eg
try again in 30 secs 5 mins time.
This is mentioned in a forum at
Have you tried checking dba_dependencies for the objects
that go invalid?
You may see a pattern.
Jared
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 13:34, Tony Johnson wrote:
The original problem is that packages go invalid in the middle of the day with no
upgrading going on,
no physical changes happening in
Bruce,
Thank you, the problem is not when I dropped the tablespace but want I moved
datafiles.
I will bounce the database.
Luc
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When dropping a tablespace, we've had
Presumably, after you truncate the huge table, it's no longer a huge table.
DBMS_STATS will run much faster after you truncate the table. You've just
discovered a great optimization.
That's exactly what I've been saying for a long time: my database would
work extremely fast, if there weren't any
Thanks, Jared, Tanel.
I was a little supprised to see a combination
rlbk=1,rd_only=1. Why read-only bit is set here if it
rolls back anyway?
So I thought may be they mark their tx explicitly as
read-only (aka set transaction read-only). Reveiwing
OCI fine manual there seemed to be an option of
You are truncating a table so as to add another 0.7% of its
size in inserts, and to update 1.4% of the rows?
My first thought would be to stop doing that.
Modify the extent sizes (if needed) so that your 50k rows
fairly fill up the extents allocated on the insert ( so as
to avoid wasting space
Hi Ramon,
I guess you are on 8i :
your setsize and fileperset specs should be
inside the backup command not outside i.e.
something like this :
backup
fileperset 2
setsize 2000
database
Using a slightly modified version of run_stats to return
timings in 1/1 of a second, the timing of 1000 iterations
of a loop executing noop vs. 1000 doing rollback:
.0005 secs
.0354 secs
Here are the stats that were different between the two,
kind of what you would expect:
LATCH.cache
I like that logic! I might just start (ab)using Perl now.
Thanks to all replies. Now I've got a few options to play around with to do
this 'exclude files' and not necessarily tar .
Rgds,
Ross
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Several of the Miracle guys are getting ready to be certified in SQL
Server. They have a ball with the 1000-page books, which talk about
alternative operating systems - meaning Windows 95, Windows X, Windows
y, :;-)
Stefan Jahnke wrote:
Hi Mladen
Nice metaphor. Did you intentionally
As the AWE (Award-Winning Educator) of the year, I have a huge
responsibility placed on my shoulders: I have to answer questions
regarding Rdb truthfully.
So here we go...
Back in the year 1994, Digital very discreetly asked their three biggest
customers (including Lego) what they thought of
Thanks for your reply, Daniel.
Yes, it makes sense for the EXEC calls, but it doesn't
explain the PARSEs, does it?
PARSING IN CURSOR #1 len=94 dep=0...
PARSE #1:c=0,e=141,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0...
PARSING IN CURSOR #2 len=68 dep=1...
PARSE #2:c=0,e=60,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=1...
hi,
I need to send messages like 'system shutting down in 1 min' to all users
currently login.
How can i do this in oracle or a third party software that i can use? users
are connected using web browser. Messages are send over the wan.
thanks.
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Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
BOFH
On unix, there is a utility called init. You should log in as root and
type the following:
init 0 please log off the oracle database
and everybody will get the message.
/BOFH
Other then that, you could use an exotic utiity called Outlook Express
to schedule a database shutdown a week in
Hi All,
Has any of you had an exprience in accessing SQL Server data from Oracle database. I
am woking on Oracle 9i on RH Linux 9. Does it work?? If so can you please list the
steps that I need to try to do the same.
Also wanted to clarify if generic connectivity is supported on Linux.
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