Title: RE: Interesting!
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> From: Khedr, Waleed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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>
> I've just discovered this, never thought if it was possible or not.
> Just wanted to share it with you, so forgive me if you know
> it already.
>
we use it quite often to make logic looks simple like ..
Procedure create_oe_line
procedure add_order
procedure make_adjustment
procedute create_delivery
Begin
add_order;
make_adjustment;
create_delivery;
End create_oe_li
My first real PL/SQL program used this technique. Of course since it was my
first program I ran into a very annoying variable scope issue. Of course
after spending hours debugging the code, I realized I should have taken the
advice of our DBA, the infamous Jared Still, and just used a package. I
Title: RE: Interesting!
Yup ... called as local procedures and functions ... we use it all the time.
Raj
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal
I think it's good to have (forgive me Jared :)).
It reminds me with Pascal language.
Waleed
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My first real PL/SQL program used this technique. Of course since it was my
first program I ran
n the scope of the proc/func you define
them
in.
Otherwise you would end up with duplicate code.
Did I miss anything ?
Stefan
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I think it's good to have (forgive me Jared :)).
It reminds me with Pascal language.
Waleed
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> I think it's good to have (forgive me Jared :)).
> It reminds me with Pascal language.
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I think, you did.
Using packages you still can "hide" proced
At the moment, I'm more interested in the new governator of California
then Larry Ellison. Even if oracle is out, I'll be able to do other
things. As a former VAX/VMS system administrator, believe me, I know.
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 11:29, Chris Stephens wrote:
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it is
interesting. but who knows if this person's opinions are correct.
should we start "shorting" Oracle stock?
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I'm just hoping that Larry won't loose interest in the next 10 years.
After that, he can sell out to CA anytime.
"Mercadante,
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it
is interesting. but who knows if this person's opinions are
correct. should we start "shorting" Oracle stock?
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Srikanth,
What is the NLS_LANG setting of the clients using the
front-end app? Sounds like they're set to US7ASCII so
they would automatically replace any extended ascii
characters with a '?'.
I know at one point the default NLS_LANG setting for
Windows clients was US7ASCII, but I can't remembe
You bet your arse its interesting considering we are 100% Compaq Tru64
Sent ructions across the UNIX S.As here this morning I can tell you.
I did HP-UX admin training a year or so ago... now where did I put my course
manuals ??
Lee
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HP Acquiring Compaq?
Yow!
That's big news!
Anyone see this coming? I would have never guessed.
Jared
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 07:02, Mark Leith wrote:
> Thought this would interest you guys..
>
> http://www.theitportal.com/ITPFrameSetBottom.asp?Path=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ema
>c
> world%2Eco%
I think there were a few hints, but the biggest thing with this merger is
now HP has 87 billion in income, compared to IBM's 90 billion. Ibm is
gaining market share and becoming a giant, now they have a decent size
competitor.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, tha
Jared:
It's the buzz of the office this morning. No one here seems to have seen it
coming.
Jon Walthour
Oracle Database Administrator
COMPAQ DBA Team
Cincinnati, Ohio
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HP Acquiring C
Many years ago, when I was a system manager on an HP-3000 system, Compac was
using the HP3000 database. This relationship goes back a long way.
Ruth
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> HP Acq
I certainly didn't!! Is this going to be like a merge? What I mean is, is
there still going to be Compaq machines and HP machines? Or will it be like
Hewlett Compaqerd? Just wondering?
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Jon,
You got your resume ready?? I hope all goes well for you and your
co-workers.
Dave
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Jared:
It's the buzz of the office this morning. No one here seems to have seen it
coming.
HP is the top one, from what I understand from what I have heard, they are
going to rebrand the compaq hardware.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."
Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone
I'm curious. What happens to Tru64 or HP-UX? One of
them's got to go, would'nt you think? How about their
Unix servers? I know they're both going to 64-bit
Itanium eventually, but can they support both product
lines? Wonder how VAX/VMS is going to fare? How does
this effect Sun? I'd say thi
Now every part in the alphas is going to have three ID numbers: one
Digital, one Compaq, and one HP number.
: )
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
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My 2-cent's worth...
I was (and still am) a big fan of the VMS operating system. I used it
on a VAXcluster where we hosted our Oracle v5, v6 and early v7 development
environments. (clusters! what a concept!) I'm just not sure how long it
will take to get used to "HP-VMS".
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Title: RE: Interesting News..
That's HP-OpenVMS to you, buddy!!! ;-)
I miss VMS. Ah, the days.
Jon
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:16 PM
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Subjec
On the contrary, I'd say this is a godsend for Sun. Compaq made a mess
of truly epic proportions when they tried to integrate DEC and Tandem
into their operations. HP did just as badly with Apollo. There are going
to be bitter turf wars between the HP/UX and Tru64 (or Ultrix or
whatever it's calle
I agree. First of all there is no certainty that the marriage will ever
be consummed (there has been a lot of corporate engagement break-ups in
the past years. Remember GE/Honeywell, Jack Welch's apotheosis? German
and French banks? Pharmacy?). There's too much overlap between the two
(all those s
More agreement. How many companies did AT&T buy only to drive them into the
ground? How much advantage did Compaq take of the impressive Alpha
technology? These mega mergers rarely produce anything much.
Unless the HP strategy is to run Compaq's product line into the ground so
more people turn t
Interesting to say the least.
We have a meeting with our Compaq reps tomorrow to discuss the Alpha
processor move to Intel. I'll put money down that a discussion of the
HP/Compaq merger will eclipse Alpha/Intel. If anything worthwhile comes up,
I'll let you all know.
Mike Hand
Polaroid Corp.
In fact today's Wall Street Journal quotes HP's CEO as saying
the Compaq name will go away. I guess running it into the ground would
take too much time so she is just going to abandon the Compaq name. They
did say they plan to keep some of the "valuable sub-brands" like Presario.
We cu
-- "Miller, Jay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> More agreement. How many companies did AT&T buy only to drive them into
> the ground? How much advantage did Compaq take of the impressive Alpha
> technology? These mega mergers rarely produce anything much.
> Unless the HP strategy is to run Compaq's pr
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select count(*) from table
where a_column =
( select cdk(123) from dual where rownum = 1 )
or you can use DISTINCT or a NO_MERGE hint - anything
to force the subquery to be evaluated in isolation
hth
connor
--- David Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My
users are writing many of their own
Hi David,
Can you have them write the query with a variable then populate the
variable with the function?
-Rocky
--- David Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My users are writing many of their own functions and it is causing
> performance to suffer
> on a few simple queries. For example, I have
select count(*) from a_table where a_column = (select cdk(1234567890) from
dual);
Regards,
Waleed
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My users are writing many of their own functions and it is causing
performance to suffer
According to our hardware resalescritter: especially for anything
below large enterprise level, both HP and Compaq services suck.
so, I guess the objective is to create a new company who services
suck even more than either individually?
Synergy!!!
> Guy Hammond wrote:
> >
> > On
And then Computer Associates can buy the new company and it will suck X 3.
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According to our hardware resalescritter: especially for anything
below large enterprise level, both HP and
Eric:
While I can appreciate that your opinion of the Compaq Services division
might be less than positive, would you please, for the sake of those who
actually work for these companies, be a little less dramatic in your
expression of that opinion.
Jon Walthour
Oracle Database Administrator
COMP
Jon, you need to get some thick skin. My company is destroyed quite often
in this list (although it has been a while).
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Eric:
While I can appreciate that your opinion of the Compaq Serv
I refrained to mention the problems I had with compaq.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."
Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax:(707) 885-2275
Fuelspot
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No.
I'm more interested in what happens to the customer.
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> From: "Walthour, Jon (GEAE, Compaq)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 06:50:52 -0400
> Subje
t;
> From: "Walthour, Jon (GEAE, Compaq)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 06:50:52 -0400
> Subject: RE: Interesting News..
>
> Eric:
>
> While I can appreciate that your opinion of the Compaq Services division
> might be less than positive, would yo
Jon,
Believe it or not, some people *DO* know they are getting screwed
even if the person doing it is being superficially "polite".
regards,
ep
On 10 Sep 2001, at 19:19, Walthour, Jon (GEAE, Compaq) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date sent: M
After thinking about this whole thing further, I realize I've made a
terrible mistake. I've stooped to his level rather than stay mature about
the whole thing and let it go. It won't happen again. To all of you who've
had to receive these messages, I'm sorry. I'm done with this thread.
Jon Waltho
So, as you devote the extra minutes to your job, does this mean COMPAQ
customer
service will get better or worse?
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After thinking about this whole thing further, I realize I've made a
OK, folks, let's stop this thread now.
It's well gone beyond the bounds of good taste,
and has turned into a cesspool of vitriol.
Let's confine discussion to Oracle topics. If you
want to go off topic, please take it offline.
Jared ( list owner )
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Well, I can't speak for all of Compaq. But my part (supporting GE Aircraft
Engines) is now and will continue to be receiving great service from Compaq.
Jon Walthour
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So, as you devote
Ralph,
Assuming that there is no history in the BIDS table (meaning that there are
no "old" records indicating a bid recorded last year), I think the following
would work just fine.
select name
from person,
(select distinct sid, count(*) bid_count
from bids
group by sid) bids
where person.s
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>Im taking a database theory class(no I dont need
>help with my homework). There is an interesting
>query in the book that I h
select pn.name
from (select /*+ no_merge */ count(*) boat_cnt from boat) bt, bid bd,
person pn
where bd.sid = pn.sid
group by pn.name, boat_cnt
having count(bd.boat_id) = boat_cnt
Waleed
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This would eliminate duplicate bids on the same boat by the same person
SELECT p.*
FROMPERSON p,
(
SELECT COUNT(*) boat_count
FROMBOAT
) c,
(
SELECT sid, COUNT(DISTINCT boat_id) bid_count
FROMBIDS
GROUP BY sid
Interesting indeed... I didn't see a version number in your note, but I am
assuming that it is 8.1.7.x. We have also had some _very_ strange
occurrences of 'library cache lock' / 'library cache pin' problems -
sessions en-masse went into this state during high activity times on a
Solaris based 8.1.
Sorry for omitting that info.
Version: 8.1.7.4.1 ( maybe patched to 8.1.7.4.6, would
have to get on the server to check )
OS: Windows 2000 Server
Thanks for the insights John, I hadn't considered that it
might actually be a bug, given that this app often has
similar issues.
There are snapsh
From: Kimberly Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:16:35 -0700
> Subject: RE: Interesting News..
>
> Jon, you need to get some thick skin. My company is destroyed quite often
> in this list (although it has been a while).
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> Subject: RE: Interesting News..
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> Jon, you need to get some thick skin. My company is destroyed quite often
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> I apparently made the mistake of thinking that the US constitution
> says that there is a right to FREE SPEECH
o many a$$holes in the Compaq world.
brgrds,
ep
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Oohhh storm clouds are on the horizon:)
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> From: "Stephane Faroult" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/09/29 Mon AM 09:59:39 EDT
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Title: RE: RE: interesting sql question
Here is an attempt ...
select p.*
from persons p
where sid in
(select sid, count(bid)
from bids
group by sid
having count(sid) = (select count(boad_id) from boats))
/
You wanted to find all persons who have booked all
a user may request the same boat more than once. not sure that work.
>
> From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/09/29 Mon AM 10:34:53 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Title: RE: RE: interesting sql question
Hey ... the question wasn't complete ...
give us the full statement of the question ...
Raj
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
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> Ralph,
>
> Assuming that there is no history in the BIDS table (meaning that there are
> no "old" records indicating a bid recorded last year), I think the following
> would work just
Title: RE: RE: interesting sql question
yeah! I think it *is* homework :)
Tom
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RE: RE: interesting sql question
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> Subject: RE: RE: interesting sql question
>
> yeah! I think it *is* homework :)
>
> Tom
>
Without knowing the actual code, I'd use dbms_profiler and run this test say a
thousand time. Analysis of collected data will help you find the problem spots.
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I have a weird problem. It
If you have more string manipulations/arithmetic operations java stored
procedure would be a better choice compare to PL/SQL.
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Khedr, Waleed
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 1:09 PM
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I have a weird problem. It seems that execut
Also did you run DBMS_PROFILER to find out which operations is taking more
time to execute.
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Khedr, Waleed
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I have a weird problem. It seems that execution speed of pl/sql proc can
slow d
Let me give you a carystic advice: run your app with 10046, lev 8 and see
what are you waiting on and how long the waits are.
On 2003.11.08 13:09, "Khedr, Waleed" wrote:
I have a weird problem. It seems that execution speed of pl/sql proc can
slow down dramatically as the size of the proc goes up e
I did, but it did not help.
As I explained there is nothing in the code that gets executed as I
explained in my code.
Two IF statements (IF FALSE THEN) that will be always FALSE. So nothing of
the code inside the if gets executed.
Interestingly when I start to remove some of the code inside IF THEN
The stored proc does not do any DML/DDL. It does strings
search/manipulation.
I run it 30 million times in 30 minutes using 32 threads.
There is no wait time, it's pure CPU time that simply does not go down
except when I remove the code that does not execute.
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Khedr, Waleed wrote:
I did, but it did not help.
As I explained there is nothing in the code that gets executed as I
explained in my code.
I would suggest to consider some simple things:
. data dictionary dependencies
. standard Oracle and your application's package(s) dependencies
. proper dataty
I do not know anything about the way oracle semi compiled the code but I
will try a wild guess (anybody who better please correct me):
Maybe (a big MAYBE) oracle translate: if then... else
as: If cond then do; else go to line 250.
And the go to line 250 is counting lines until it arrive to th
I had the same thought, also thought that
if you have something like this that does not get executed:
if VAR1 like '%abcbdbdbbbfdbfdfdfd%'
The compiler (or the semi-compiler) still has to allocate memory for VAR1
and load it.
I'm testing and will update the list, if I managed to find anything!
Yechiel's idea reminds me of one of that 'tuning tips' of old which said
'avoid calling a routine too far away in the code' (because it could be
in another page, etc.). This kind of phenomenon, reference to chunks of
code which have been safely parked away on disk may also come into play.
SF
"Khe
I agree as Step 1, but I expect that you'll find quickly that the issue
is a big c value for the EXEC on the block. If you do find this, then it
indicates exactly what's been suggested several times already: use
DBMS_PROFILER to dig into the response time of the EXEC.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterpri
Is the problem still evident when the parameters are
defined as "in" as opposed to "in out".
Cheers
Connor
--- Cary Millsap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I
agree as Step 1, but I expect that you'll find
> quickly that the issue
> is a big c value for the EXEC on the block. If you
> do find this
Yes, you are right, of course. Using large PL/SQL tables and
string manipulation (INSTR,SUBSTR and alike) are known to be
CPU intensive and there is no way around it. The only way
to help an application which uses those functions extensively
is to add a column which extracts portion of the origina
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vladimir Begun
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Less number of inexpensive instructions is everytime better (I'm not talking
>about lines of code).
>
>Trace it -- 10046/12 + dump instructions using appropriate event.
^^^
Below are two dummy procs that are good enough to explain the issue (Jared
forgive me for posting this big code).
All the code in proc test_plsql1 is inside an IF clause that will not run.
Testing the proc call is done using this:
---
declare
a varchar2(1000);
b varchar2(1000);
hmmm me curious too ...
Raj
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.
QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art !
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If the logic depends on multiple IF statements based on
which patterns the input strings match, it might be better
to store the patterns in a PL/SQL table and find out the
index of the matching pattern and then base the decision
on the index value and not by repeatedly using LIKE ...
something li
Pete Finnigan wrote:
Less number of inexpensive instructions is everytime better (I'm not talking
about lines of code).
Trace it -- 10046/12 + dump instructions using appropriate event.
^
what instructions? and what events do you refe
Hi!
NAMESHARABLE_MEM
---
TEST_PLSQL1 185607
TEST_PLSQL5 9123
A lot of junk, right? :)
PL/SQL engine works with interpretive code, it does not have any
optimizations -- here I do simplify, so do not consider this statement
as an absolute truth -- like, e.
Hi LIST
Thanks Waleed fot the code. I did some extra tests, following Connor's
suggestion:
I created 4 extra versions of the testplsql5 procedure.
So I ended up with 5 versions, each with 4 parameters, the first having 4
in out parameters, the second 1 in parameter and 3 in out parameters and
Carel-Jan Engel wrote:
> It appears that the overhead caused by a 'call by reference' (in out)
> will cost you some extra time. The 'call by value' appears to be cheaper.
PL/SQL User's Guide and Reference Release 2 (9.2)
8 PL/SQL Subprograms
Summary of Subprogram Parameter Modes
IN OUT -- actual pa
The question was not if it's a good or bad code. The question was why?
This is not the actual code that runs, just something that explains the
issue :)
So let's make it more interesting:
Let's keep the proc size unchanged while moving the end-if closer to the
main if clause, and changing if false
Khedr, Waleed wrote:
The question was not if it's a good or bad code. The question was why?
This is not the actual code that runs, just something that explains the
issue :)
I've provided a selfexplanatory fix of the 'bad' code, please review it.
You code uses standard.like, and a lot "isntances of
You have not provided me with anything (I cannot post these things to public
forums because of my email)!
The only thing you said bad code, good code!
I was not impressed the way the code works, this is why I had to research
issue until I found the problem using "LIKE".
Of course it was easy fo
Khedr, Waleed wrote:
You have not provided me with anything (I cannot post these things to public
forums because of my email)!
Please re-read my posts.
The only thing you said bad code, good code!
How should it be named?
I was not impressed the way the code works, this is why I had to research
i
>
> From: Kimberly Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:16:35 -0700
> Subject: RE: Interesting News..
>
> Jon, you need to get some thick skin. My company is destroyed quite often
> in this list (although it has been a while).
go around telling people
that if they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are
so many a$$holes in the Compaq world.
brgrds,
ep
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s to kiss their a$$es all the time because
> they are some big megacorp.
>
> Of course the good news is that I can now go around telling people
> that if they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are
> so many a$$holes in the Compaq world.
>
> brgrds,
> ep
ka a SATISFIED Compaq customer
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their employees and the friends of their employees, and having
>them expecting the customers to kiss their a$$es all the time because
>they are some big megacorp.
>
>Of course the good news is that I can now go around telling people
>that if they want good services, they should buy IBM sin
Ross"
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if they want good services, they should buy IBM since there are
> so many a$$holes in the Compaq world.
>
> brgrds,
> ep
>
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