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John-
Just got back from a vacation and saw this... Our jr DBA is
in the process of doing this. Care to
share your code???
Thanks,
Ron Thomas
Connor, you're the best!
On 2003.10.08 21:09, Connor McDonald wrote:
Cary, you're intention is good, but you need to take
the more effective (Dirty Harry) approach:
Customer: It's Slow
Me: What is?
Customer: The application. Make it fast.
Me: Maybe I can make it fast, maybe I can't. You've
got
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This comment coming from Mladen means something ...
Raj
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But what !?
Wedding bells?
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This comment coming from Mladen means something ...
Raj
Rajendra dot
You point out something that I've found most developers/DBAs don't
do... actually sit with the end user to see what the problem is.
This happens at the design end as well. I have seen way too many user
friendly applications that aren't, because the programmer wrote it for
someone at his/her
-contractors.
I found the paranoia level to be especially high on US government projects.
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You point out
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Cary,
We are doing exactly that on one of our databases. After hearing _few_complaints that DB is slow (code is not), we enabled trace at level 12 for power users. Now every AM my job is to analyze 20+ trace files that I get and report back.
Once we
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Cary,
We are doing exactly that on one of our databases. After hearing
_few_complaints that DB is slow (code is not), we enabled trace at level 12
for power users. Now every AM my job is to analyze 20+ trace files that I
get and report back
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Or you can look into getting the Hotsos Profiler It would definitely be money well spent!
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Thanks,
I have been using that tool for a long time now, it needs a big tablespace (cause everything is loaded in tables) and puts a load on the server. It is good for smaller files, but takes too long on larger files.
Nevertheless it is a great
found the paranoia level to be especially high on US government
projects.
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You point out something that I've found
money, and pro-long the life of the contract due to the extra red
tape.
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Date: 2003/10/08 Wed AM 11:24:25 EDT
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I agree that it's common. But it's probably
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Hotsos Profiler will handle it, no problem.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
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go to metalink and check out trace analyzer. ITs a new tool
for analyzing 10046 traces. Has ALOT more detail than tkprof. Major
improvement
clod
can have facts, having an opinion is an art !
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Raj
(and all who use Oracle's Trace
Cary, you're intention is good, but you need to take
the more effective (Dirty Harry) approach:
Customer: It's Slow
Me: What is?
Customer: The application. Make it fast.
Me: Maybe I can make it fast, maybe I can't. You've
got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky
today? Well do ya
how many projects actually have SLAs? Ive been on 5 projects and none of them have had
them. Its always been.
Customer: 'It's Slow'
Me: What is?
Customer: The application. Make it fast.
Me: Define fast.
Customer: As fast as possible. Do it now.
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we do. We aren't 24x7, but we are 5 am Monday through 6 pm Saturday with a 48 hour permissible window IF we declare an emergency and give them 30 days notice if we are going to be down outside of the regular hours (i.e. upgrades... )
April Wells
Oracle
Yep, sounds familiar. So there you have your biggest hurdle for the
performance project: getting the business to set measurable targets and
prioritize the tasks that need attention. How do you Work first to reduce
the biggest response time component of a business' most important user
action.
These are the BEST projects to be on. You took a different path than I
would have at the second Me line. I would shoot for:
Customer: It's Slow
Me: What is?
Customer: The application. Make it fast.
Me: Show me.
Customer: Okay, come see.
Then your job becomes to get a 10046/12 trace on what
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