RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread AdamDonahue
Refer to http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:5481819534388360937::NO::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID,F4950_P8_CRITERIA:1562813956388, for the answers to some of your questions below. I think it's safe to say that DUAL is a rather 'magic' table. The normal rules for DML don't

RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread Jared . Still
       Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        RE: dual I have observed  2 rows in dual till version 7.3.4. All application using dual in their logic having more than 2 rows were giving wrong results. Quick fix was to track i

RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread Thater, William
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:09 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: dual Didn't try no rows.  I imagine all kinds of things would break. [Shrek]  yes they will... tru

RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread M Rafiq
I have observed 2 rows in dual till version 7.3.4. All application using dual in their logic having more than 2 rows were giving wrong results. Quick fix was to track it and delete more than one row(s). Duplicate import of sys/system stuff were known to be culprit. Regards Rafiq Reply-To

Re: dual

2003-10-30 Thread bulbultyagi
th), you could put more than one > row in DUAL and then select them all, but all the things that should have > returned only one row then failed with a 1403 (?) error - single row query > returning more than one row. I remember well way way back in time before I > joined Oracle having th

RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread Jared . Still
L PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        RE: dual Do you think it will work if it has no rows ?   Waleed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: dual You may fin

RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
I have seen many databases crash, yes crash, when dual had more than one row or less than one?     Why you say?  As someone pointed out, this was an internal table to the kernel so Oracle used it as they felt.  It was and still is considered a heartbeat mechanism within the kernel.  In

RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread Khedr, Waleed
'where rownum = 1' is always imposed on dual. Same results on 8.1.7.4 and 9.2.0.4 Don't try this on anything other than a trashable test database. Jared === 10:42:04 dv03>@dt 10:42:05 dv03> 10:42:05 dv03>set echo on 10:42:05 dv03>

Re: dual

2003-10-30 Thread Jared . Still
You may find this interesting. Looks like a 'where rownum = 1' is always imposed on dual. Same results on 8.1.7.4 and 9.2.0.4 Don't try this on anything other than a trashable test database. Jared === 10:42:04 dv03>@dt 10:42:05 dv03&

RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread Pete Sharman
It's because we designed it that way. In earlier releases (can't remember the specific version we brought this in with), you could put more than one row in DUAL and then select them all, but all the things that should have returned only one row then failed with a 1403 (?) error - single

RE: dual

2003-10-30 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
If you did not commit the inserts to dual, then everyone will only see one row. If you committed the data and still one row appeared, then you must have a row defined for dual. Suggestion: Don't add more rows to dual if you value your dba life. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Tech

dual

2003-10-30 Thread bulbultyagi
List, here is a rtfm question which I was scared to ask, but its bothering me too much so I just can't stay quite : "why do multiple inserts into sys.dual complete sucessfully when connected as sysdba, but a subsequent select * from dual show only 1 row ?" -- Please see the of

RE: Query on Dual

2003-06-11 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
http://www.ixora.com.au/scripts/cache.htm replace_dual.sql In some cases the data block for SYS.DUAL can be a hot block in cache. This script replaces the SYS.DUAL table with a view onto X$DUAL, thereby eliminating the cache access entirely. Please note: This is not a normal, supported

Re: Query on Dual

2003-06-11 Thread Reginald . W . Bailey
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Re: Query on Dual

2003-06-11 Thread Daniel W. Fink
Kesh, I have some information on my website (http://www.optimaldba.com/internals/oraint_dual.html). It is a pretty terse discussion of the topic. I know that Cary Millsap has tested and written a paper on this as well. IIRC, there is mention of DUAL in his paper on reducing Logical I/Os. You

Re: Query on Dual

2003-06-11 Thread jmanoj
izant)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]06/10/2003 11:24 PM PSTPlease respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: bcc: Subject: Query on Dual Hi all, Can anyone tell me the performance issues related to the excessive u

Query on Dual

2003-06-10 Thread Jayaram Keshava Murthy (Cognizant)
Hi all, Can anyone tell me the performance issues related to the excessive usage of the DUAL table in pl/sql procedures? I remember reading an article about this ( I dont remember if it was in ASKTOM site ) wherein it was told that excessive usage of DUAL comes with a cost and

Re: X$dual and Dual: performance and others?

2002-12-26 Thread Jonathan Lewis
I see you've started two threads on SYSDATE at once. A couple of thoughts (rhetorical questions, not criticisms) a) Does your benchmark actually mean anything to YOU ? Are you really doing lots of select sysdate from dual in your application ? If so why do you

X$dual and Dual: performance and others?

2002-12-26 Thread chao_ping
yield .00 52 setitimer .01 46 pread .04 162 --- --- sys totals: 1.63 40305 0 usr time: 11.89 elapsed: 129.88 Also, from somewhere , i see someone's trick about xdual vs dual, and i did a benchmark: with dual: SQL> select * from v$mystat where stati

RE: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread Fink, Dan
racle support ask you to check is the dual table to see if it's got more than one row in it. Don't know if they are still doing that. Richard Ji -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've seen that when I was a

Re: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread Jared . Still
The same thing happened to me as well. There were 2 rows in dual, and it caused some really strange problems with Oracle Financials. The support tech and Oracle knew his stuff, and had me check it. I have no idea how 2 rows came to be in dual, but it sure was a mess. Jared Stephane

RE: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread Richard Ji
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I remember when you had a weird application problem, one of the first thing Oracle support ask you to check is the dual table to see if it's got more than one row in it. Don't know if they are still doing th

RE: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
you to check is the dual table to see if it's got more than one row in it. Don't know if they are still doing that. Richard Ji -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've seen that when I was a developper ...usin

RE: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread Richard Ji
I remember when you had a weird application problem, one of the first thing Oracle support ask you to check is the dual table to see if it's got more than one row in it. Don't know if they are still doing that. Richard Ji -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002

Re: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread Stephane Paquette
I've seen that when I was a developper ...using Oracle 6/vax vms and Sql*Forms 2.3. There was 2 rows in dual. Since dual was heavily used when programming in Forms2.3, it cause a big problem as no users were able to log in (the menu was using dual). It was in the stock exchange department

RE: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread Jeremy Pulcifer
Title: RE: DUAL That's it. I'm inventing my own dummy table.   CREATE TABLE dummy (DUAL varchar2(20));   -Original Message-From: Yechiel Adar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:04 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re:

RE: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread Wolfgang Bogacz
ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: DUAL So listen up: For better April 1'st - add another record to dual. That is known to cause a deteriorating effect on developers. :-) Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple

Re: DUAL

2002-12-17 Thread JayK
TECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        Re: DUAL So listen up: For better April 1'st - add another record to dual. That is known to cause a deteriorating effect on developers.   :-)   Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - From: Jeremy Pulcifer To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: DUAL

2002-12-16 Thread Yechiel Adar
Title: RE: DUAL So listen up: For better April 1'st - add another record to dual. That is known to cause a deteriorating effect on developers.   :-)   Yechiel AdarMehish - Original Message - From: Jeremy Pulcifer To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: M

RE: DUAL

2002-12-16 Thread Jeremy Pulcifer
Title: RE: DUAL Careful. We are listening. ;-) (that woulda messed me up for a while) > -Original Message- > From: Babette Turner-Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 12:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Su

RE: DUAL

2002-12-13 Thread Babette Turner-Underwood
Thanks for the great suggestion! I will remember to use that one when those developers start getting too lippy ;-) Babette -Original Message- Richard Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Howdy, I believe that truncating DUAL has also been

Re: DUAL

2002-12-12 Thread Mark Richard
Howdy, I believe that truncating DUAL has also been known to leave developers scratching their head. Of course I could never recommend that anyone try it though

RE: DUAL

2002-12-12 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Hallo, Dave- what is, Dual for Dummies? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hallo, Problems with dual, please read link http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid13_gci831497,00.html TIA, Dave -- Please

DUAL

2002-12-12 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Hallo, Problems with dual, please read link http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid13_gci831497,00.html TIA, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051

Re: select .nextval from dual contributes to poor performan

2002-10-03 Thread Connor McDonald
Most commonly this is due to poor coding, where "poor" means the sequence value is obtained explicitly in a trigger or before the insert/update/etc is done. Certainly plain old "insert into xxx values (bbb.nextval, ... )" is a lot faster than a) select nextval from du

Re: select .nextval from dual contributes to poor perfo

2002-10-02 Thread Tim Gorman
PM Subject: RE: select .nextval from dual contributes to poor perfo you might want to try increasing the 'cache' size of the sequence.  If order is not important, and it is being used so often that it's having locking issues, you may want to create a couple differe

RE: select .nextval from dual contributes to poor perfo

2002-10-02 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: select .nextval from dual contributes to poor performan you might want to try increasing the 'cache' size of the sequence.  If order is not important, and it is being used so often that it's having locking issues, you may want to create a couple different sequ

RE: select .nextval from dual contributes to poor perfo

2002-10-02 Thread Fink, Dan
Ken, Thanks for adding one more example to the history of the poor performance of dual. I have a discussion on my website at www.optimaldba.com/internals/oraint_dual.html. Why does the app need to select just the nextval? I presume it will be used to insert a value into a table

select .nextval from dual contributes to poor performan

2002-10-02 Thread Fowler, Kenneth R
/sec. Based upon the information I get back, I can see that the following query... SELECT STAGE_DATA_SEQ.NEXTVAL FROM DUAL; Seems to use a significant amount of resource when you take into account the number of times it is executed. The query plan shows a full scan of sys.dual and it uses

Re: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-30 Thread Jared . Still
PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: Selecting Next X Values From Dual Stephane... Thanks for the reply. >> SELECT sequence.nextval FROM table WHERE ROWNUM < x >> It just seems too kludgy, and I didn't think creating a table with >> dummy data for the

Re: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-27 Thread Gary Chambers
Stephane... Thanks for the reply. >> SELECT sequence.nextval FROM table WHERE ROWNUM < x >> It just seems too kludgy, and I didn't think creating a table with >> dummy data for the count would be a good way to go. Any suggestions? > Why 'too kludgy' ? If you are inside a PL/SQL package have yo

Re: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-27 Thread Stephane Faroult
Gary Chambers wrote: > > > I created a package that would easily loop thru and select x number of > > entries, but not return them in a select to you. This way, you can > > make 1 simple call passing it X. Is that what you wanted ??? Or do you > > have to have them as returned values of a select

RE: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-27 Thread Gary Chambers
> I created a package that would easily loop thru and select x number of > entries, but not return them in a select to you. This way, you can > make 1 simple call passing it X. Is that what you wanted ??? Or do you > have to have them as returned values of a select ? I would need the values retu

RE: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-27 Thread Kevin Lange
- Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Anjo... Thanks for the reply!! > If X is fixed for all sessions, do a step increase of X so that you > only have to select 1 row from dual. Unfortunately, I don't feel I can do that. I'm us

Re: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-27 Thread Gary Chambers
Anjo... Thanks for the reply!! > If X is fixed for all sessions, do a step increase of X so that you > only have to select 1 row from dual. Unfortunately, I don't feel I can do that. I'm using the returned values as unique identifiers to protect against duplicate database su

Re: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-26 Thread Anjo Kolk
If X is fixed for all sessions, do a step increase of X so that you only have to select 1 row from dual. Anjo. On Friday 27 September 2002 00:18, you wrote: > All... > > Is there a method by which I can select the next x values from a > sequence from dual? I've searched Googl

Re: Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-26 Thread Stephane Faroult
Gary Chambers wrote: > > All... > > Is there a method by which I can select the next x values from a > sequence from dual? I've searched Google and OraFAQs.com, but I can't > seem to make any hits on my search requ

Selecting Next X Values From Dual

2002-09-26 Thread Gary Chambers
All... Is there a method by which I can select the next x values from a sequence from dual? I've searched Google and OraFAQs.com, but I can't seem to make any hits on my search request. TIA Gary Chambers //- // Lucent Technologies GIO/Unix //

RE: DUAL Was: Consulting Position Available-Oracle DBA/Developer/

2002-09-20 Thread Weaver, Walt
> Sometimes after VACUUM ANALYZE optimizer doesn't use indexes > and performance goes down. > > JP > > On Friday 20 September 2002 18:43, you wrote: > > Ditto for PostgreSQL. For portability you can create a dual table but you > > have to ensure that it only has o

Re: DUAL Was: Consulting Position Available-Oracle DBA/Developer/

2002-09-20 Thread Jan Pruner
> DBA/Developer/ > > > We are using PostgreSQL, but still have problems with statistics. > Sometimes after VACUUM ANALYZE optimizer doesn't use indexes > and performance goes down. > > JP > > On Friday 20 September 2002 18:43, you wrote: > > Ditto for Post

RE: DUAL Was: Consulting Position Available-Oracle DBA/Developer/

2002-09-20 Thread Weaver, Walt
VACUUM ANALYZE optimizer doesn't use indexes and performance goes down. JP On Friday 20 September 2002 18:43, you wrote: > Ditto for PostgreSQL. For portability you can create a dual table but you > have to ensure that it only has one row. ;-) I finding that portability > between

Re: DUAL Was: Consulting Position Available-Oracle DBA/Developer/

2002-09-20 Thread Jan Pruner
We are using PostgreSQL, but still have problems with statistics. Sometimes after VACUUM ANALYZE optimizer doesn't use indexes and performance goes down. JP On Friday 20 September 2002 18:43, you wrote: > Ditto for PostgreSQL. For portability you can create a dual table but you > hav

RE: DUAL Was: Consulting Position Available-Oracle DBA/Developer/

2002-09-20 Thread Orr, Steve
Ditto for PostgreSQL. For portability you can create a dual table but you have to ensure that it only has one row. ;-) I finding that portability between PostgreSQL and Oracle is easier than most... same to_date, to_char functions, and stuff. Seems like that's part of Postgres'

DUAL Was: Consulting Position Available-Oracle DBA/Developer/NYC

2002-09-20 Thread G . Plivna
As well as in MySQL >There is no need for such table in SQL Server. >If you need, you do just: > >select 'whatever' > >without "from" clause. Gints Plivna IT Sistçmas, Meríeïa 13, LV1050 Rîga http://www.itsystems.lv/gints/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Au

Invitation: OOUG Meeting: October 24th, 2002. Dual Track Meeting

2002-09-17 Thread Toepke, Kevin M
Oracle Developers, DBAs, Managers You are cordially invited to attend the first Dual Track meeting of the Ohio Oracle Users Group When:Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:00am - 4:00pm. Happy Hour following the meeting Where: Dublin Community Recreation

RE: DUAL revisited

2002-08-04 Thread Connor McDonald
t; > > -Original Message- > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:13 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > I've been reading the thread on DUAL vs X$DUAL, read > the referenced article > and tried some testing on our system. I do a simple > select f

RE: DUAL revisited

2002-08-02 Thread Kathy Duret
Sorry brain dead. Been working day and night for 5 days. Not much sleep. Makes perfect sense now. Kathy -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 4:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Correct. DUAL is a table owned by SYS for which SELECT permissions have been

Re: DUAL revisited

2002-08-02 Thread Tim Gorman
Correct. DUAL is a table owned by SYS for which SELECT permissions have been granted to PUBLIC. V$DUAL is a view on a special "fixed" table named X$DUAL. The SELECT permissions here are granted on the *view*; they cannot be granted on a fixed table (i.e. X$ table). So, you're

RE: DUAL revisited

2002-08-02 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: DUAL revisited > -Original Message- > From: Kathy Duret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > But I don't get this error when I query from dual just from > the new v$dual. That's because your v$dual view is assessing a SYS.X$ "table". To do

RE: DUAL revisited

2002-08-02 Thread Kathy Duret
But I don't get this error when I query from dual just from the new v$dual. Kathy -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L ...if you're going to query from an account other than SYS, then please SET AUTOTRACE

Re: DUAL revisited

2002-08-02 Thread Tim Gorman
- Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:15 AM > I followed the instructions but I get the error below. I do not get the same error when I select from dual. And yes I did to the public grant.

RE: DUAL revisited

2002-08-02 Thread david hill
: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:13 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've been reading the thread on DUAL vs X$DUAL, read the referenced article and tried some testing on our system. I do a simple select from DUAL and I get the same statistics as were in the article, but sometimes I also

RE: DUAL revisited

2002-08-02 Thread Kathy Duret
I followed the instructions but I get the error below. I do not get the same error when I select from dual. And yes I did to the public grant. And other clues? DB 8.1.7.3 Thanks Kathy Execution Plan

DUAL revisited

2002-08-02 Thread John Zoltak
I've been reading the thread on DUAL vs X$DUAL, read the referenced article and tried some testing on our system. I do a simple select from DUAL and I get the same statistics as were in the article, but sometimes I also get 1 memory sort. Does anyone know why this would be? And if this is

RE: How to hook up x$dual

2002-08-02 Thread Bob Metelsky
Title: Message Thanks alot, that worked perfectly!   thank you bob    > You'd need to do something like this under the SYS account: SQL> create view v_$dual 2    as 3    select dummy 4    from x$dual 5    where inst_id = userenv('INSTANCE&#

Re: How to hook up x$dual

2002-08-01 Thread Tim Gorman
You'd need to do something like this under the SYS account: SQL> create view v_$dual 2    as 3    select dummy 4    from x$dual 5    where inst_id = userenv('INSTANCE');   View created.   SQL> grant select on v_$dual to public;   Permissi

RE: How to hook up x$dual

2002-08-01 Thread Fink, Dan
x$dual is owned by sys and is not visible to others (without sys granting permissions). This is why you use sys to create the view and synonym. In looking at what is posted, I did not indicate which user to login as for the view creation. My apologies...I'll fix it shortly. Thanks for the

RE: How to hook up x$dual

2002-08-01 Thread Khedr, Waleed
It is visible from user sys only. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello All Im looking to experiment with using x$dual opposed to dual. from my reading http://www.optimaldba.com/internals/oraint_dual.html

How to hook up x$dual

2002-08-01 Thread Bob Metelsky
Hello All Im looking to experiment with using x$dual opposed to dual. from my reading http://www.optimaldba.com/internals/oraint_dual.html Which refers to using the memort structure of X$DUAL if I SQL>desc x$dual ORA-04043: object x$dual does not exist So how do I hook up x$d

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Jared . Still
. Jared "Fink, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/30/2002 01:31 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Fink, Dan
> Haven't heard the why yet but I think it may be just a poorly worded > request. I suspect he wants the sequences created on another table > and > just wants to be able to select from dual. Maybe he never realized > that > the sequences were actually created on anoth

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
uest. I suspect he wants the sequences created on another table > and > just wants to be able to select from dual. Maybe he never realized > that > the sequences were actually created on another table.Maybe he > actually > thought that the sequences were created on the DUAL tab

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Cherie_Machler
Mladen, Thanks for everyone's response on this. I think that this is just a misperception on the part of the developer. I took the phrase verbatim from his change request. I suspect that he has only ever used sequences in the SELECT from DUAL statement so he thinks that they are a

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Kevin Lange
I would think they probably saw something like select sequence_name.nextval from dual; Maybe they thought the sequence and dual were connected in some manner. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cherie, You don't c

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Lyuda Hoska
Cherie, If you push F1 key from SqlPlus there will be a complete explanation called 'all about sequences and how to create them on dual table'. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dan, Haven't heard the why

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Cherie_Machler
Kevin, Thanks for the suggestion on select statements. I will pass them on. I think it's just a misunderstanding on his part as to where the sequences are actually created. Apparently he only uses them in a select from dual so he thinks they reside there. C

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Cherie_Machler
Dan, Haven't heard the why yet but I think it may be just a poorly worded request. I suspect he wants the sequences created on another table and just wants to be able to select from dual. Maybe he never realized that the sequences were actually created on another table.Maybe he act

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:54 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Creating sequences on the DUAL table? > > > > I have a request from one of our developers to create two new > sequences on > the DUAL table. &g

Re: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Cherie, You don't create sequences on a table, they are objects in and of themselves. So you can create the sequences for the developers but I'm wondering where they got the notion that sequences were created on a table. And why they want to use DUAL. Rachel --- [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table? Sequences are DB objects independent of any tables including dual (not possible to create a sequence "on" a table.  Sequences are sometimes used to populate the PK of a table, but the actual sequence and the table are not structural

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Sounds like your developer hangs out with some of our developers! ;) I am sorry to say but, I guess the syntax "...from dual" could be confusing to the developer. Your understanding is just fine. Don't do anything with dual.. May be briefly explaining to the developer how

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Communication gap and ignorance. The developers proably want to create new sequences. And they are used to writing queries as "Select sequencename.nextval from dual;" So they call it sequences on the

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Fink, Dan
Cherie, My first response is 'WHY?'. Do they mean that they want to create 2 new sequences and use the DUAL table to retrieve the values? It will cause performance problems and there are better solutions. I have some information on the performance implications of DU

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table? answer below > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I have a request from one of our developers to create two new > sequences on > the DUAL table. > > This seems like

RE: Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread kkennedy
H? Sequences are not created "on" the dual table. Sequences exist as independent entities. Ofttimes, sequence values are selected using the dual table (e.g., select seqname.nextval from dual) -- this is a coding choice. Performance of queries that select from the dual

Creating sequences on the DUAL table?

2002-07-30 Thread Cherie_Machler
I have a request from one of our developers to create two new sequences on the DUAL table. This seems like a bad idea to me. I've never had such a request in the past. I asked for clarification on why this is needed and I didn't get a lot of details yet. Is this something that i

Re: OS [PTFM/RTFM: MS dual boot]

2002-07-28 Thread Eric D. Pierce
an example of what to read: http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=BootMgr.TXT I have extensive notes on Win9x and Win2000 dual boot, but not on Win2000 and WinXP dual boot. On 28 Jul 2002 at 4:18, Dennis M. Heisler wrote: > Did you do any research yourself before asking? I did a qu

RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-26 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/2002 08:03 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy > I had to ponder this for a few seconds. Economize synapses...

RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-26 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
08:03 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy > I had to ponder this for a few seconds. Economize synapses... paste and execute in SQL*Plus. -Origi

RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-25 Thread Orr, Steve
d one Steve. Jared On Tuesday 18 June 2002 14:23, Orr, Steve wrote: > Here's a performance tuning query to help identify the problem: > > SELECT column_name "The problem is the..." > FROMdba_tab_columns > WHERE owner='SYS' > AND table_name = &#

RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-25 Thread Jared . Still
pond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy > I had to ponder this for a few seconds. Economize synapses... paste and execute in SQL*Plus. -Original Message

RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-25 Thread Orr, Steve
une 2002 14:23, Orr, Steve wrote: > Here's a performance tuning query to help identify the problem: > > SELECT column_name "The problem is the..." > FROMdba_tab_columns > WHERE owner='SYS' > AND table_name = 'DUAL' > / > > :-) &

Re: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-23 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev
: having a double character or nature- du·al·ly /-&(l)-lE/ adverb   Main Entry: 2dualFunction: nounDate: 16501 : the dual number of a language2 : a linguistic form in the dual     Entry Word: dualFunction: adjectiveText: 1 Synonyms TWOFOLD 1, bifold, binary, double, double-barreled, dua

RE: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
HELP -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 7:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ahem... Are you an idiot? ;) On Sunday 23 June 2002 11:38, Eric D. Pierce wrote: > HELP > > On 23 Jun 2002 at 1:13, Sakthi , Raj wrote: > > Well, > > does this question get the sam

Re: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-23 Thread Eric D. Pierce
what is dual? On 23 Jun 2002 at 14:45, Jared Still wrote: > > Ahem... > > Are you an idiot? > > ;) > > On Sunday 23 June 2002 11:38, Eric D. Pierce wrote: > > HELP -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce

Re: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-23 Thread Jared Still
Ahem... Are you an idiot? ;) On Sunday 23 June 2002 11:38, Eric D. Pierce wrote: > HELP > > On 23 Jun 2002 at 1:13, Sakthi , Raj wrote: > > Well, > > does this question get the same place in the 'hall of > > oracle list' as the legendary 'are you an > > idiot..?'...;) > > ... -- Please see

Re: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-23 Thread Eric D. Pierce
HELP On 23 Jun 2002 at 1:13, Sakthi , Raj wrote: > Well, > does this question get the same place in the 'hall of > oracle list' as the legendary 'are you an > idiot..?'...;) ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Eric D. Pierce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-23 Thread Sakthi , Raj
Well, does this question get the same place in the 'hall of oracle list' as the legendary 'are you an idiot..?'...;) --- Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 June 2002 00:48, Farnsworth, Dave > wrote: > > Hallo, >

RE: DUAL related

2002-06-22 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Kinda neat. Thanks! Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 2:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For those who want to optimize "select from dual", look at the following link... http://www.oracledba.co.uk/tips/dual_speed.htm Regards

Re: SEQ#, DUAL and Oracle literacy

2002-06-22 Thread Jared Still
GOD. > ( Jared since we ARE discussing DUAL this is not OT is > it.?.;) ) > > RS > > --- Alexandre Gorbatchev > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And one column :))) > > > > SQL> describe

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