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All - I think one major point has been overlooked in this discussion of how
hard it is to learn Java - OOD! Our company has been sending many developers
to Java class. Almost everyone reports that the big hurdle is learning
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IMHO, I don't believe that you can properly learn PL/SQL in a very
short period of time, or for that matter, any other language.
I attended Steve Feuerstein's presentation
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IMHO, I don't believe that you can properly learn PL/SQL in a very
short period of time, or for that matter, any other language.
I attended Steve Feuerstein's presentation at MAOP-AOTC conference,
and
he tore into many real-life
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It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously do not know it.
Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love
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any other language.
I attended Steve Feuerstein's
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IMHO, I don't
You THINK that you are kidding.
I submit to you that in a few years there will be a great demand for Cobol
programmers as the current old crop goes into retirement
and all the newbe's are learning Java and perl.
Start writing those books. They will be needed by the time that you finish
them.
Independent contractors in Albany NY who know Cobol are getting $120/hour
because all of the original employees who know Cobol are retiring. And the
legacy systems are going to be around for quite awhile.
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May be it's time to switch back to Cobol!
I've done it for four years (Cobol F77 with Codasyl).
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Independent contractors in Albany NY who know Cobol are getting
$120/hour
because all
I can give you a hand in that :-)
Or If you want to write it in spanish.
Ramon
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Independent contractors in Albany NY who know Cobol are getting $120/hour
because all of the
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IMHO, I don't believe that you can properly learn PL/SQL in a very
short period of time, or for that matter, any other language
It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously do not know it.
Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love to know what you
learned in that week.
Getting a handle on all of the libraries and API's is
another story, but Java as a language is pretty simple.
Jared
Well Jared,
He
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It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously do not know it.
Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love to know what you
learned in that week
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It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously do not know it.
Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love to know what you
learned in that week.
Getting a handle on all of the libraries and API's is
another story, but Java as a language is pretty
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It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously do not know it.
Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love to know what you
learned in that week.
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Jared Still wrote:
Hold on Lisa!
Java is not complex. It's
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It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously do not know it.
Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love to know what you
learned in that week.
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Jared Still wrote:
Hold on Lisa!
Java is not complex. It's a very simple
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Java this...PERL thatCOBOL rules It's easy to write and
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It took you a week to learn it? Then you obviously
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Syntax is one thing design is another. I would love
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I think there is a book called Java for Dummies.
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Excellent advice. I think I'll do just that.
Dave
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Ahhyes...COBOL for Dummiesthat sounds like a good name for a
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I think there is a book called Java for Dummies.
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Excellent advice. I think I'll do just that.
Dave
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yeah, yeah Chris, whatever
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And here I thought this was a private message.
You have unfortunately caught me in a rather stressful
week, and I find great relief in greeting arrogance
with sarcasm.
Don't worry about it, what I learned in a week would take you a month.
Jared
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Hi
Hee hee.
XML making DBAs redundant.
Sorry Mark, I know that's not what you said but I'm DBAing for an XML-based
project at the minute and I've rarely been busier.
For example, the latest version of the XDK (which Technet encourages you to
download NOW!) doesn't include the files you need to run
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IMHO, I don't believe that you can properly learn PL/SQL in a very short
period of time, or for that matter, any other language.
I attended Steve Feuerstein's presentation at MAOP-AOTC conference, and he
tore into many real-life examples of PL/SQL. Supposedly
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See this note:
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql
Yup - its compiled into (if I recall correctly)
p-code which is a tokenized and optimized version of
the source. You can see a number of IDL prefixed
tables under SYS which contain the compiled code.
You'll see the term DIANA floating about which is
related to this as well.
hth
connor
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Saw some basic demo's at a BMC/Simulus seminar
revealed that compiled units were certainly faster
than their interpreted counterparts - I can't
remember
off hand but it was in the order of 20-30% maybe?
Of
course, typically the main performance problems
with
PL/SQL are:
a) poor SQL within the
you submit to the database are fully interpreted. PL/SQL that you store in
the
database as procedures, functions, and packages get partially compiled into
a
p-code. This makes the code ready for execution, but retains a modular
design
so that if your DBA reloads catproc your code is not totally
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how about Java within Oracle. What do you
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how about Java within Oracle. What do you think about it ?
When does it make sense to use Java instead of PL/SQL ?
The problem is that I dislike
And if you want to see the Diana-code (it's an Ada-term as I recall) all
you have to do is take some wrap'ed code and "Dec" it, since wrap'ed code
is nothing but Diana-code that has been Hex'ed. Guess who told me that...
Mogens
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Yup - its "compiled" into (if I recall
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Hi
how about Java within Oracle. What do
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IMHO, I don't believe that you can properly learn PL/SQL in a very short
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And if you want to see the Diana-code (it's an
Ada-term as I recall) all you have to do is take some wrap'ed cod
Sometimes they appear and disappear so quickly that tracking them is akin to
particle physics! According to the pundits, every new technology is the one
that is going to revolutionize the industry. ;-)
A few from Oracle - OPO (Oracle Power Objects), ODP (Oracle Developer
Programme), CDE, OPS
Can this be true? How can this be? If it's optimized to manipulate data
within the database, how can it be fast if it's interpreted (like that slow
poke, Java)?
I see this on Connor's website www.oracledba.co.uk under explicit/implicit
cursors, under pl/sql. What on earth?
Can someone
See this note:
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab
ase_id=NOTp_id=151224.1
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Waleed
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Can this be true? How can this be? If it's optimized
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See this note:
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab
ase_id=NOTp_id=151224.1
Regards,
Waleed
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See this note:
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_d
atab
ase_id=NOTp_id=151224.1
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Waleed
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Can this be true? How can
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