listener

2003-07-16 Thread AK
Is it possible to have listner running on box a while databases running on X,Y,Z . If yes , then how does oracle instance find the address of the box running the listner , if I configure ini.ora with service_name . Does it mean that local tnsnames.ora file ( on server X,Y,Z) should haave an

RE: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
I think Robert Freeman's book is essential. Oracle RMAN Pocket Reference at $13 U.S. is an easy decision. I started before Robert's book was published and the book which really helped me get off the ground is Oracle Backup Recovery 101. It is about 1/2 RMAN, and has some really simple

Re: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Ron Rogers
Michell, A sequence is created and select privileges granted to users or roles. The users or roles use the sequence in the applications to insert/update the data in the tables. Check the privileges granted to the users/roles and then get the info from the developers as to which tables use the

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Chris Grabowy
Well, there could be business logic reasons as to why you would have one sequence per table. Also, I don't know if I would ever go with one sequence for many tables, sounds like a bottle neck to me. And how would one sequence for many tables impact scalability?? Or having lots of users

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
If you are using the sequence to generate the primary key for a table, then the sequence should only be used for that table. I can't think of a pro to have one sequence shared for the primary keys on many different tables. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I didn't say you should have only one sequence in the database. I said there was no reason you had to have multiple ones. and there isn't. There is no restriction in Oracle that you have to do so. As it happens, for many of the reasons you stated, we have multiple sequences. That is, where I can

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Find the table's name that using sequences I'd check dependencies of the sequence, you'll know what procedures,functions,packages,triggers that sue the sequence. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Igor Neyman
In order for sequence not to become a bottle neck, use cache option. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, there could be business logic reasons as to why you would have one

RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-16 Thread Niall Litchfield
Not only that but this sort of thing should be avoidable. SQL alter system set db_cache_size=10m scope=both; System altered. time passes SQL alter system set db_block_buffers=1000 scope=spfile; System altered. SQL shutdown; Database closed. Database dismounted. ORACLE instance shut down. SQL

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Stephen Lee
A mad rampage through DBA_SOURCE might reveal something useful. Something like: select name,text from dba_source where upper(text) like '%SEQUENCE_NAME%'; And do the same with TRIGGER_BODY from DBA_TRIGGERS. -Original Message-

RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Niall I think that was the intention of the COMMENT parameter. As you point out, that isn't foolproof. An improvement might be if Oracle tagged each change with a date stamp. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday,

Re: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-16 Thread Joe Testa
oh i forgot its binary but not THAT binary. joe Niall Litchfield wrote: Not only that but this sort of thing should be avoidable. SQL alter system set db_cache_size=10m scope=both; System altered. time passes SQL alter system set db_block_buffers=1000 scope=spfile; System altered. SQL

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Rachel Carmichael
this doesn't take into account external code that uses the sequence there is no way to know for certain which sequence is being used to generate values for which table. Even if you have multiple sequences, you can't force a programmer to use the sequence you have designated as the one for

RE: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Wow! Mladen, thanks for listing my name in your list. As Arup mentioned, you forgot yourself. I would also suggest Dan Fink, Tim Gorman, and Dr. Mogens! Gaja is moving the other (dark) side, so I won't mind excluding him :) When it comes to RMAN, I am not even in the rookie stage. We bought a

RE: Oracle Instances not starting up via services

2003-07-16 Thread Jose Luis Delgado
Nuala... 1.- can you send your environment variables? (my_pc - properties - advanced - environment variables) 2.- can you send your Oracle registry values? JL --- Nuala Cullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jared, Thanks for the advice, I checked out the registry settings ORA_WMS_PFILE

RE: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-16 Thread Tony Johnson
FailSafe comes with EE and works very well. It might even come with SE but I am not sure. Our production environment fails over in less than 2 minutes. It is much simpler to set up ( ie no SAN, raw devices or OCFS) and a heck of a lotr cheaper ( 20K$ / CPU for RAC ). One other note is that we

Re: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-16 Thread Arup Nanda
This can be solved by creating the PFILE again from the SPFILE; and this doesn't need the instance to be up. However, you did drive the nail home, Niall, with this example. Part of the problem could be avoided by restricting the ALTER SYSTEM, SYSDBA or SYSOPER privileges; but in a large shop with

Re: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread Arup Nanda
Kirti, Gaja is moving the other (dark) side??? Elaboration, please. Arup - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:29 PM Wow! Mladen, thanks for listing my name in your list. As Arup mentioned, you forgot

RE: 10i reg.

2003-07-16 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: 10i reg. From the article ... quote Oracle 10i is expected to include Oracle Real Application Cluster (RAC) support for Sun, HP and IBM Unix boxes, bringing them up to date with technology currently available for Windows and Linux. /quote Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha . The person

Re: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Title: Message Mladen, one correction or comment. You don't need a third party package if you are backing up to disk. Then it's straight rman. Ruth - Original Message - From: Gogala, Mladen To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003

Re: RE: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed..

2003-07-16 Thread rgaffuri
i kind of get the point... its just overkill now. From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/07/16 Wed AM 11:39:30 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: * Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i and 9i experience needed.. Intersting... I get spammed at

Re: security without using different usernames

2003-07-16 Thread Don Yu
Arup, My database version is Oracle 9i (9.2.0.1.0). Thanks! Don Arup Nanda wrote: What is your database version? 9i? If so you are probably using the SPFILE; changing the init.ora file wouldn't help. Shutdown trhe database and startup with the pfile option startup pfile=init.ora

Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-16 Thread Allen R. Lucas
EE is not required to FailSafe. It comes at no cost with Standard Edition as well. Tanel Poder

Active Directory question

2003-07-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
We are trying to configure an Oracle LDAP connection to Microsoft Active Directory. This is so a client machine can get the connection information (an alternative to tnsnames.ora or Oracle Names) and connect to an Oracle9i database on Sun Solaris. Does anyone know how you create the container

RE: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Title: Message Ruth, that is correct but, generally speaking, backup to disk is rather awkward thing to do, even without mentioning the fact that you need more disks for that and that disks are not free, either. Between thwe two of us, I don't know a company doing backups to the disk.

RE: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread Jared . Still
f) I would suggest Jared Still, Cary Millsap, Rachel Carmichael, Jonathan Lewis, Wolfgang Breitling, Steve Adams, Gaja V., Arup Nanda, Kirti Deshpande and Anjo Kolk to start the Oracle List certification process. I would trust that one more then the OCP. I apologize to anyone who I

RE: Datafiles on SAN?

2003-07-16 Thread Niall Litchfield
Yes we do, though we're cheap bastards, sorry public sector so its compaq san rather than a big name co. It works well is reliable, and for us was a pain to setup. You also need to remember that you are adding a layer of complexity in the name of reliability. Complexity and reliability do not

Re: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Arup Nanda
In addition to what Jacques has mentioned, here is my 0.02. Why only one sequence per table? Does it stem from the concern that a single sequence becomes overloaded with request to be inserted into multiple tables? The overloading does not come from number of tables, but number of concurrent

Re: 10i reg.

2003-07-16 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: RE: 10i reg. Raj, The article probably meant the extension of Oracle Cluster Filesystem to these Operating systems. In 9i, RAC required some third party clustering software for these - MC/ServiceGuard, SunCluster, etc.; whereas the OCFS was available for linux and Windows (??). But

Re: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Well, he is part of Oracle 'chefs' now. Praising the food before they cooked it ;) - Kirti --- Arup Nanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirti, Gaja is moving the other (dark) side??? Elaboration, please. Arup - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?

2003-07-16 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
The other parameters that will get you in the same trouble are related to the special buffer pools.. I ran into this issue with 9iR1 and decided to stay away from SPFILE stuff... The failure of Oracle (programmers) checking for such exclusiveness (?) tells their background. Doesn't it? I

RE: Cary/Others RE: should you seperate indexes from tables in

2003-07-16 Thread Pete Sharman
Following on from Cary's response, both internal and external testing has shown the performance improvements of storing objects in tablespaces with different block sizes to be so miniscule as to be not worth the effort (or putting it another way, there are lots of better ways to spend your

Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?)

2003-07-16 Thread Pardee, Roy E
I can definitely appreciate the benefits of dynamic parameters, and of being able to persist the values of those parameters accross shutdown/startup cycles. But I would have guessed that oracle could have gotten both of those features together without going to a binary parameter file--couldn't

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2003-07-16 Thread Tom Pall
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2003-07-16 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Blessed are the cheesemakers, because they shall rule the Kingdom of God. Blessed are the Greek, because they shall inherit the Earth. Hope this helps you. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Tom Pall [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: enterprise manager

2003-07-16 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
When you say start the enterprise manager console and try to login as sys do you mean that the EM console login box that prompts for username, pwd and management server you enter sys as the user? If so, you need to enter an EM username password rather than a DB username / password. Also, in

Re: listener

2003-07-16 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Your databases actually have to register with your listener on remote machine. Your databases have to have tnsnames.ora configured with entry for listener location as well and your instances' REMOTE_LISTENER parameter has to specify the tns alias for listener location. That way

Re: AIX 5.2 Or AIX 5.1 for Oracle 9.2 database server?

2003-07-16 Thread Stephen Andert
hi, Did you get any replies off-list? We are moving to Aix so I'm very interested in this topic. Thanks Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/03 10:44AM Hi, friends: There is a project that migrate a 9.0.1.3 database on linux server to 9.2.0.3 on aix/p670 server, and I have some question

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Jared . Still
That won't catch sequences in triggers. You can't easily find sequence use in a trigger either, as the code is stored in a LONG. Best to dump to a text file and use grep. And if your programmers practice safe sequences, it will be in their code instead of the database anyway. Although if

RE: Really annoying 9ias Rel 2 install

2003-07-16 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Really annoying 9ias Rel 2 install Guys, It is not OFA compliant - all the files go in the same directory as the binary - there is no way to precreate the database and point the installer to an existing database initially. After the initial install - yes but not before. Yuck.

Re: RAC or Oracle Fail Safe

2003-07-16 Thread Jared . Still
And to add to that, I don't believe that FailSafe is even required to use Oracle with MS Clusters. IIRC, it's just to simplify the cluster setup. FailSafe certainly isn't need for setting up failover withi Veritas Cluster Server. Jared Allen R. Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL

Re: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread Arup Nanda
Oh, you mean Elisonville! - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:59 PM Well, he is part of Oracle 'chefs' now. Praising the food before they cooked it ;) - Kirti --- Arup Nanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Mark Richard
Chris, The system I work on currently has a main sequence issuing GUID's (Globally Unique Identifier's) for the entire application. I think it comes from the Object Orientated world - where some physical tables may be storing various different logical records and sometimes a foreign key may

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-16 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?) it isn't binary on solaris ... pure text ... Raj -Original Message- From: Pardee, Roy E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-16 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in sync with INIT.ORA ?) Not true; it's binary, on both Solaris 8 and 9. By the most of the file (regardless of the OS) is still text; the non-ascii chars are present at the beginning of the file. Arup Nanda -

RE: Find the table's name that using sequences

2003-07-16 Thread Stephen Lee
Oh yeah. I forgot about that LONG data type pain in the anus when you are looking for something. I just attended 9i new features in Colorado Springs last week. I asked, with all these new features, why the implementation of the LONG data type was still so piss poor (well, maybe not exactly in

RE: Why are SPFILEs binary anyway? (was RE: How to make SPFILE in

2003-07-16 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Keeping them binary gives them power I guses... On most platforms there is just a hashed value on the first line. In 9i R1 (9.0.1), I was able to replace some param value without changing number of chars on the line, and the changes were taken without any problem (HP-UX 11, it was I think).

RE: 10i reg.

2003-07-16 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Thanks for the amusement, btw there is nothing in the article that isn't on metalink, go figure Very true.. Not worth to share your e-mail address to receive more 10i information as it becomes available :) Oracle will be pushing it down our throat for free... I bet those sign makers in

Re: AIX 5.2 Or AIX 5.1 for Oracle 9.2 database server?

2003-07-16 Thread zhu chao
Hi, Stephen, I did not get feedback from the list:(. Maybe my question is always too lengthy. It is not my company that is using AIX 5.2, but one of my friend. In fact, I do not suggest you use AIX 5.2 in your production , after all, it is too new! One if my friend tell me, it is easy

RE: RAC system Calls .......

2003-07-16 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
Matt,List Does this have a benefit for SINGLE instance Database Server connected to Multiple Application Servers (Client Server Architecture) ? OS = Solaris 9 Application , DB Servers = SF15K machines Network = 1 GBPS interconnects routing thru a switch May I further extend this to ask if

Re: how to schedule a job every alternate sundays in unix cron

2003-07-16 Thread Brian_P_MacLean
0 1 * * 0 /usr/bin/ksh -c [ `date '+\%a'` = 'Sun' -a $((`date '+\%U'` \% 2)) -eq 0 ] /path/myscript.ksh This will run myscript.ksh on even Sundays at 1 a.m. If ?'s, email me direct.

Re: RMAN SQL Backtrack

2003-07-16 Thread Brian_P_MacLean
Having experienced SQL*BackTrack, EBU, and RMAN. Yes RMAN is getting better (anyone else remember the nightmare called EBU). Yes RMAN still sucks. Yes RMAN is still free (get what ya pay for) SQL*BackTrack - Slicker than Owl S... Have the $, use

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