Re: [osdcmy] Re: SisPA: PHPSQL vs ORACLE

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
sistem macam ni lebih tak reliable, berbanding menggunakan satu server dan juga sistem macam ni memerlukan lebih banyak hardware, dan lebih banyak kos. maintenance pun kena kira juga. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:39 PM, cikgu ayob ayob.alham...@gmail.com wrote: Assalamualaikumkawan2

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik red1
How i wish Dr. Mahathir did cut them off at the bridge. Before he resigned. On 3/15/11 12:28 PM, zarul shahrin wrote: Of course they are better! They are there working on the next big thing while we are here busy arguing which OS is better or why people don't want to use OSS and of course -

[osdcmy] Re: Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Jacob Thomas
I agree with Raja that Rafe has a soft spot for OSS, despite all the luahan hati from him. Its good to release your frustrations, Rafe,...keeps your BP in check. As far as the statement that Msia is not visible as OSS hub or development area compared to Singapore by your internal team (I presume

Re: [osdcmy] Re: SisPA: PHPSQL vs ORACLE

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
ikut kesesuaian bergantung: 1. kelajuan internet dan keboleharapan 2. lokasi kumpulan pengguna utama 3. 1-way atau 2-way communication ideal situation is centralised server with ideal connectivity memang betul distributed perlukan server, maintenance, training, deployment untuk setiap

[osdcmy] Re: SisPA: PHPSQL vs ORACLE

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik cikgu ayob
isu kelajuan internet jadi isu..dalam hal ini.. itu dah memang.. saya baca review dalam http://diari.mypendidik.net/?p=553 aplikasi sispa tersebut memang dalam perubahan sistem.. pelik ye.. tengah sibuk dengan kerja2 sekolah... sibuk pula team ini, membangunkan sistem online untuk keputusan

Re: [osdcmy] Study: Media Piracy in Emerging Economies

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Boh Yap
hi, some very good points were raised, I've added some comments below... On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Criminals can’t compete with free. The study finds no

[osdcmy] Rubyist for Japan - call for help

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
-- Forwarded message -- From: najmi zabidi Date: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:34 PM Subject: [general] Rubyist for Japan - call for help To: A general discussion list on Free/Open Source Software in Malaysia. gene...@lists.foss.org.my Hi, http://www.rubyistsforjapan.com/ Rubyists

Re: [osdcmy] maybe off-topic: I like Gmail

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Garfield WTF
Couldn't agree more with u guys. Myself, although don't like the fact that Google is trying for World Domination But hey, stuffs from them is really cool!!! -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my*

Re: [osdcmy] New article: What the heck is FreeDOS?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Garfield WTF
This is the reason why, I prefer to use Debian for my DirectAdmin servers rather than using Ubuntu. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Soire Meira
Apa kata klu dimulakn dari TADIKA.. so ada generasi baru.. he3.. skadar cadangan ja 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Other training providers actually hated OSCC's guts; since we used to provide free FOSS training to GOMEN and since GOMEN is the largest

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Garfield WTF
I believe they mean by the attitude and mindset of Malaysia OSS developers and the community. As we can see now, majority of our developers and community people are fighting each others. Not united at all. Always argue about the difference and advantages of those OSS projects that they are

Re: [osdcmy] maybe off-topic: I like Gmail

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Soire Meira
i like Google! 2011/3/15 Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my Couldn't agree more with u guys. Myself, although don't like the fact that Google is trying for World Domination But hey, stuffs from them is really cool!!! -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia)

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik red1
Reaction: I hate you. Now, please continue. On 3/15/11 9:49 PM, Garfield WTF wrote: I believe they mean by the attitude and mindset of Malaysia OSS developers and the community. As we can see now, majority of our developers and community people are fighting each others. Not united at all.

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
Satu cadangan yang menarik. Tapi guru2 dan pengasuh2 tadika mesti mempunyai kemahiran asas FOSS sebelum mengajar anak2. Kemungkinan besar bantahan dari ibubapa yang berpendapat perisian Mac atau mikrolembut lebih berguna daripada perisian percuma berkualiti rendah. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:49

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
Wahai Merah Satu, +1 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:03 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Reaction: I hate you. Now, please continue. On 3/15/11 9:49 PM, Garfield WTF wrote: I believe they mean by the attitude and mindset of Malaysia OSS developers and the community. As we can see now, majority

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Soire Meira
guru2 + pengasuh hanya perlu asas sahaja utk ajar kanak2 ni membuka serta belajar asas (aplikasi game+eduction dlm linux kn bnyk). jika bantahan dr ibubpa high-class adalah kemungkinan besar.. so try at kampung @ tmpt taraf hidup sederhana or below. so tntu mereka akn trima.. dr ctu akn lahir anak

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Mohamad Imran
Err.. nak buat spam sikit.. ^_^ http://wiki.kostem.my/index.php/Mesyuarat_dan_Perjumpaan http://wiki.kostem.my/index.php/Mesyuarat_dan_PerjumpaanMinta maaf, selamat berdiskusi :) 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com Wahai Merah Satu, +1 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
People are free to make derivatives. But, to reduce the wasted effort, please do it upstream. Debian have Pure Blends [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends], Fedora have Spins [http://spins.fedoraproject.org/], Suse have Studio [ http://susestudio.com/] Use them, and people will actually

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: People are free to make derivatives. But, to reduce the wasted effort, please do it upstream. Debian have Pure Blends [http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends], Fedora have Spins

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
sekarang isunya macam mana nak ajukan benda ni untuk direalisasikan. sekadar menaip di mailinglist tak guna juga. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: guru2 + pengasuh hanya perlu asas sahaja utk ajar kanak2 ni membuka serta belajar asas (aplikasi

[osdcmy] Re: Windows Azure Cloud Workshop to OSS

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Final call On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone with PHP knowledge want to try Azure ? - Windows Azure Cloud Workshop to OSS http://portal.mosc.my/events/windows-azure-cloud-workshop-to-oss Time: 9.00 am to 5.00 pm,

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Soire Meira
Paperwork plz.. but i will try.. insyaallah! 2011/3/16 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com sekarang isunya macam mana nak ajukan benda ni untuk direalisasikan. sekadar menaip di mailinglist tak guna juga. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik tajul
Kita memang tengah berusaha ke arah tukan soire meira. Projek jawi kita, kita boleh try implement bermula dari tadika. Kerjasama kita dengan UKM kita perlu fikirkan sebab dorang dah minta untuk buat perbincangan dengan kita. Bila ye, nak buat?.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
on the topic of oss at tadika, this is fairly easy to approach : fimos can approach datin sri rosmah mansor a child friendly remix (like the icon based ubuntu netbook remix) with touch-screen monitors would probably work - along with a 'reliable hardware and software'. i foresee the other main

[osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar
Morning everyone, I found that there are a lot of information related to our government discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay? Just my 2 cents. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011

Re: [osdcmy] Re: SisPA: PHPSQL vs ORACLE

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik aziman noor
bukan kah Sitem Peperiksaan alternatif telah diguna pakai diSELANGOR dengan Sistem i-NILAM http://nilam.tarantula.my/ Pemarkahan Peperiksaan. Thanks. 2011/3/15 cikgu ayob ayob.alham...@gmail.com isu kelajuan internet jadi isu..dalam hal ini.. itu dah memang.. saya baca review dalam

[osdcmy] Nagios Sales To Help Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief - Salute to Nagios team!!!

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Ahmad Arafat Abdullah
http://community.nagios.org/2011/03/11/nagios-sales-to-help-japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-relief/ Nagios Sales To Help Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Reliefhttp://community.nagios.org/2011/03/11/nagios-sales-to-help-japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-relief/ Published on March 11, 2011 in

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok. if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to the official source. with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation

Re: [osdcmy] Nagios Sales To Help Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief -Salute to Nagios team!!!

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim
Syabas Nagios! .. Usahawan Linux terkemuka Dunia .. Senyap ajer!! Regards, e1 Sent from GreenBerry® Smartphone -Original Message- From: Ahmad Arafat Abdullah trunas...@gmail.com Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:27:54 To: OSDC.my Mailing

Re: [osdcmy] Re: SisPA: PHPSQL vs ORACLE

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
tuan, nilam is for book reading. whenever a student reads a book, then the student fills in the nilam record book. interesting info about the p4a php framework 2011/3/16 aziman noor azi...@gmail.com bukan kah Sitem Peperiksaan alternatif telah diguna pakai diSELANGOR dengan Sistem i-NILAM

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
Please remove me if any mention of politicians comes up again. Eric On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: on the topic of oss at tadika, this is fairly easy to approach : fimos can approach datin sri rosmah mansor a child friendly remix (like the

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik sweemeng ng
Are we discussing any sensitive information here? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok. if you look at the posts, the

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Umarzuki Mochlis
i hope there's no such thing that is considered a secret because it could lead to a life sentence, so i had been told and AFAIK, only if you're a government's employee and if a vendor, you had signed the form that says you would not leak said informations. 2011/3/16 sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik tajul
I think it is not a very secret, unless it is confidential (macam sama saja). He he But, I think, to make anything in the government to be transparent, we have to be transparent to discuss, because at the end of the day, everything the government decide to do, is equivalent with what rakyat

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik sweemeng ng
I don't think that is a secret though, the only one closest is the tender which from what I is a open tend as in OPEN. I personally don't see that is a issue I could be wrong, and yes I'm not a lawyer On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:05 PM, ta...@sabily.my wrote: I think it is not a very secret,

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik Boh Yap
why this paranoia? Surely anything available thru the normal media channels cannot be considered a secret? Part of the being 'open' is the sharing of information, no? And why should content related to 'open' tenders by secrets? As a thought experiment, suppose prices specs for such tenders are

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik red1
IMHO if we are debating on govt policies, be they written or unwritten, it is still ok, because we are not creating falsehood nor lies, based on unfounded facts nor conjecture that implicate individuals who are merely govt servants following such policies. Now for govt servants, what about