Re: 500 plus

2001-10-16 Thread Douke Oostenbrink - Harrison Gifford Change networks!
I facilitated an open space for 350 participants. We had a large room and 8 smaller rooms. First there was an openning by the members of the board. People were sitting in theatre rows. Then the last speaker announced another speaker of very high level. This was an actor on wooden legs. he jabb

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-16 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 18:19 15-10-2001, Chris Corrigan wrote: I am dumbfounded by this article: http://www.stratfor.com/home/0109272330.htm It describes Al-Qaeda as, essentially, an Open Space Organization, I think yours are very interesting questions, Chris. The h

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations Long

2001-10-16 Thread J. Paul Everett
Another viewpoint I received today. Our media could all calm down, too. Paul Geov Parrish WorkingForChange 10.15.01 Terror news American media is doing the terrorists' work for them Over this past weekend, my country went crazy. Americans have always been a little bit crazy, of course

So now what.

2001-10-16 Thread FamilyFirm
911 has prompted me to look for ways to be philanthropic with my work. I have decided to volunteer economic development oriented consultation in third world nations. As a pilot project I have called upon contacts in a German foreign aid organization in Nepal. I had been told by several Nepali busi

Leveling the Playing Field

2001-10-16 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
Glory Ressler wrote: >> Go boldly, in your scepticism, into the world please... We need your voice. << Hi Glory and others, Thanks for your kind words and encouragement. Like many of you, I had parents and grandparents and teachers who helped open many wonderful spaces for me to learn. Along

Re: The Warrior -- Carlos Casteneda

2001-10-16 Thread Julie Smith
Dear Paul, Would it give you pleasure to know you remain a mystery to me? I very much appreciated your comment a day or two ago about Love being what sets some kinds of groups apart from others, and about anything without love not having meaning. I hope you don't mind that I agree with you. (An

Re: 1998 retired Lt. Col. (Dr. Robert Bowman) letter

2001-10-16 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 22:25 12-10-2001, Julie Hotard wrote: Thanks, Julie. I have printed your message and only now I had the oportunity to read it. And yes, the words of the American President of the Institute for Space and Security Studies are worth reading. They are so clear that I wonder why they are not under

Re: OST with local Catholic Diocese

2001-10-16 Thread Artur F. Silva
At 04:34 15-10-2001, Lisa Heft wrote: Here's the story of Weekend #1 with the local Catholic Diocese (a region) and their strategic planning process. Very interesting, Lisa. I would never believe that this was possible within the Catholic Institution... But probably American Catholics are dif

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-16 Thread Koos de Heer
Hello All, I have been very quiet for a while, partly because of a large amount of work, partly because I was overwhelmed by the flood of messages on this listserve which was just too much to follow. I am just in the process of picking up again. I came across Chris' post about Al-Qaeda resembling

poetry

2001-10-16 Thread skaparlust
Dear all, I ran into this poem by a Norwegian, Olav H Hauge. I believe it catches some of what is going on right now, on this list and outside. My translation might not convey the whole story, but I´ll give it a try. This is the dream. This is the dream we carry that something extraordinary wi

Fw: Afghanistan and another opinion (long) ...

2001-10-16 Thread Winston Kinch
Hallo friendsonthelist: An overseas friend of mine took this from a newsletter - it's a letter from a West Point Grad to some of his classmates about his perceptions that he developed during his time in Afghanistan. My friend has a friend who owns the Afgan telecommunications company: he says th

Re: Robust OS

2001-10-16 Thread Lisa Heft
Ken -- CoNgRaTuLaTiOnS on your courage and on stepping out into the unknown and I hope you have some salve to put on those bruises you've given yourself -- sounds like you did a great job. What do you think you would do differently the next time, regarding your own preparation for opening the spa

Re: Robust OS

2001-10-16 Thread Chris Corrigan
Oh my godbeen there! Done that! Welcome to the fold Ken! Chris "West, Ken@EDD" wrote: > I opened space yesterday. I thought it went badly, I felt off center, > distracted, stumbling, out of sync. > > This morning at the debrief - the group raved about all they had gotten > done, the creat

Re: 550 plus

2001-10-16 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Terry-- One quick suggestion, from my experience in an Open Space of about 600 participants. We were in a room with only one truly usable wall--a long one, but not long enough for such a large group. The effect of this was that many posters were stacked in the same vertical space, and participan

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-16 Thread Chris Corrigan
"Artur F. Silva" wrote: > > > Am I seeing this incorrectly? > > Regards > > Artur > > I think you're seeing it correctly. Without straying too far from the topic Artur, all I can say about sites like Strategic Forecasting and Jane's Defense Weekly (which I have also been reading) is that they ar

Robust OS

2001-10-16 Thread West, Ken@EDD
I opened space yesterday. I thought it went badly, I felt off center, distracted, stumbling, out of sync. This morning at the debrief - the group raved about all they had gotten done, the creativity, the energy, the freedom to do what mattered to them. So it is pretty hard to mess OS up. Thank

Re: A transformative moment.. now

2001-10-16 Thread Glory Ressler
Harrison!!! Yeah! I love the way you have summed up your thinking in this post! I agree wholeheartedly. I wish you well in Israel... and despite your hesitancy, I'm thinking you're the perfect man for the job - 'whatever happens'... I am happy (and surprised in that 'not so surprised' way) to s

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-16 Thread (David Koehler)
Julie: I agree. My point was not that hatred is justified, but that there are people who operate on that basis. The original question dealt with "can open space be used for evil purposes?" I was trying to point out that whether something is evil or not depends on perspective and has nothing to

A Transformative Moment... Now. (long)

2001-10-16 Thread Harrison Owen
I have spent my professional lifetime watching, thinking and writing about the transformation of human consciousness. I am not at all sure that I have made any original contributions, and for sure there exists an abundance of heavy thinkers in the area who have added greatly to whatever it is that

Re: 500 plus

2001-10-16 Thread Eiwor Backelund
Hi Terry, I did a large OS meeting this summer, about 700 to start with but about 300 that really participated. This was because it was an annual meeting and 700 always come and they were invited to take part but some choose to do other things, like the Law of two feet. We had to think a lot about

Re: CIA & stocks

2001-10-16 Thread Michael Herman
well, yes, some of what your friend says is true, gray. but i think the whole of it is not so easily dismissed. if your bankers allow it or just don't look very carefully, one might set up some phony organizations and place the trades through them, and be very hard to trace (i'm imagining a bit h

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Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-16 Thread Michael Herman
this bit about the bin laden folks being organized in open space org sort of way reminds me again of how true many of the things harrison and the rest of us say so often about open space... we really do live in open space... every organization is a self-organizing system... open space gets peopl

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-16 Thread Doris Gottlieb
Hello, Although I've been reading the posts on the list for some time, this is the first time I've actually taken part in this, so let me introduce myself briefly. My name is Doris Gottlieb, I live in the Netherlands and I work in my consulting and facilitating practice around issues of diversity a

Re: 550 plus

2001-10-16 Thread Harrison Owen
At 12:07 AM 10/16/01 +0100, you wrote: I'm in the process of preparing for a two day OS meeting for an anticipated 500 to 600 people. This is stretching my experience which has yet to reach the 200 mark. So I'd appreciate the list's collective advice and experience in facilitating such a number.

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-16 Thread Julie Smith
Dear David, You asked how we can deal with people whose hatred is so justified in their minds. I wonder whether hatred is ever justified. And I wonder whether justifying hatred is part of what we expect. It seems to me that the structure of thinking goes something like this: Because d

Re: Fighting Open Space Organizations

2001-10-16 Thread (David Koehler)
Doris: You raise an interesting question re: good verses evil. What I am reminded of, however, is that placing a value on something being good or evil is a matter of perspective. Even though we view the acts of Al-Qaeda as being very evil, we must know that for them they are right from their per

CIA & stocks

2001-10-16 Thread Gray Temple
Hi, Folks - I floated the recent article about CIA directors and Wall Street past a friend who's a stock broker. Here is his reply: - This is utter tripe. This guy does not understand the market nor how firms execute trades...they are for KNOWN clients. ALL these trades can and

550 plus

2001-10-16 Thread Terry Gibson
I'm in the process of preparing for a two day OS meeting for an anticipated 500 to 600 people. This is stretching my experience which has yet to reach the 200 mark. So I'd appreciate the list's collective advice and experience in facilitating such a number. Client is an educational institution w