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Chris - Lovely story! Seems to me that the importance of the "Document" has
always been around the process and not the product. When the News Room is
buzzing that is not the sound of incidental (co-incidental) work to my ears.
It is just part of the whole thing. The discussion, growth, change,
rela
Just a brief fluttering in to comment on the note taking. I have been
a little concerned about the convener being the note taker. Two
examples from the WOSonOS, which is my one and only fully attended OS
event so far!
1) A convener who has written a report as preacher-like as his circle
was
Lisa - Never for a moment would I challenge your title as Access Queen, to
which we might add a new one - "Hostess with the Mostest!" Bravo! Well done.
and.
There are also other possible styles and modes of operation. Mine for
instance. My choice is almost inevitably to do less, as little as po
Last year in a large open space where we paid deep attention to the
documentation (http://addressingstigma.ning.com) one of the conveners said "I
see what you're doing…this is just a massive document collaboration process."
Even though the remark was said as a kind of tender complaint at how m
i know that so many people have never had the experience of receiving
notes after discussions - and that some people use the notes for
deeper reflection post-event.
Some organizations turn them into work-sheets for projects, some
return six months later to re-convene a group of people who car
when i first started seeing notes in open space, it seems lots of the
reports were 2 and 3 pages. as the world is sliding into the grips of blog
posts and twitter, i think i see the notes shortening. still i think one
of the most important things to capture is the convener, of course, but
also th
only two harrison, is my hope... every host MUST specify (1) an X
on the map where they will be, and (2) the TIME that they will be there
looking for us. after that, anything is possible AND nothing is necessary!
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Thanks for all sharing in this circle I come back as a bumblebee bzz
I think WOSonOS is a nice breathing in, as a community. An anchoring point
for our community to connect as a whole yes everyone cannot be present
physically, but to me its something special even if I cannot join and
u
yes yes to all of the considerations you've outlined here, lisa. in the
last few years, i've been suggesting to people that facilitating open space
is a practice in making choices... having so little pre-set structure means
we are resting in making choices about how to be all through the event...
I am glad that this session at the WOSonOS also talked about what is
lost if chairs are not used, and what is created if chairs are used.
I for one would not be able to attend a session without chairs.
Which is fine - whoever comes. But the removal of chairs would remove
me from having the op
Yay Suzanne! Thanks for your courage in stepping forward. May your steps
clear the way for many others.
Given how your own encouragement helped me add this book to my reading
and how much it has added to my life - may I also recommend Brene'
Brown's book - "The Gifts of Imperfection".
I wond
Amen to that! I hear proposals to do less all the time. If the hosting
process becomes a burden - what can I as a host do to bring it back to
being a joy? I suspect this is an never ending inquiry for Open Space hosts.
I love that Suzanne is making a strong case for doing less. I've been
heari
quite right, harrison... all i'm trying to say -- or ask really -- is might
we not be asking too much of our would-be hosts?
might we not, as a community, be evolving our common expectation/definition
of what a "world" osonos is... with the result being that there is more
work for hosts, fewer hos
Kari It has always seemed to me that the real value of the notes from
various sessions was/is just to alert anybody-interested in the general
thrust and content of that session. Any similarity between OS Reports and
formal, edited, officially sanctioned minutes is purely co-incidental. I
always t
Harold - If I thought for a moment that Michael were "insisting" on
anything, as if that would have any impact (and the same goes for me) - I
would instantaneously invite Friend Michael for a short conversation in the
woodshed - as if that would do any goodJ My read is that he was just posing
hypot
Hi Kari,
I usually don't worry a lot about note taking. In
the beginning I did, but I discovered that for
most people, the conversations themselves were
much more important than the notes. I do make
clear that if some future action is to be taken,
notes are important and in that case they ha
Hi Eleder,
In my experience, the break of the night is an
important separation. Usually, it has the effect
of letting the exchange of the first day sink in
and digest. With as a result that the people are
ready for action on the next day.
So for me it would feel logical to have the three
s
Phew"one less thing to do"! Never imagined how important those words
might be when I had the crazy idea not so long ago to humbly or brashly
throw hat in the ring to have Florida be considered to host the next
WOSonOS.
*With a smile and a full heart I first want to say to one and all: "Hey
Dear Michael H,
--Berlin 2010 (in the sequence of WOSonOSes it was Nr.18, followed by
Chile as Nr.19 in 2011 and London as Nr.20 in 2012) and coming up Berlin
2020 (which would be Nr.28... if there would be a WOSonOS once a year)
--German language osonos in Germany for Germany, Austria, Switzer
I would add two European learning exchanges
Paris 2010
Cagliari 2011
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These are good questions
I think that bad notes are fine for the people that participated in a
session. Now I have been reading the notes from London Wosonos as I was not
able to be at location, these notes are a narrow window into the
conversations that took place, like half shadows of the dialog
Hi Kari, I share you concern and I think that distributed note-taking would
be the "natural" way in Open Space. My experience, though, is that even if
we as facilitators encourage it or as conveners ask for it to other
participants, people tend to keep their own notes.
Maybe it´s an extra effort p
Michael,
With trepidation I continue this conversation despite the sense that
we're alone in a circle and everyone else on the list are using the law
of de-lete. I hope you don't mind if I reflect back a few of your
statements.
"What if anyone could indeed convene an osonos?"
I don't get yo
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