Thank-you, Chris, for your passion, your eloquence, and your facts.
John W
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> On Feb 19, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList
> wrote:
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>
>
> Mark:
>
> I have mostly been ignoring your posts around this but I have to speak out
> now.
>
> The leaders of
.
And the vaccination rate among Canadian truckers is between 83% and 90%.
John Watkins
> On Feb 18, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Glenn Waters via OSList
> wrote:
>
> Enough of the nazi crap, please. I can't answer if you've misunderstood
> something but let me share some fac
The problem is that most of the folks “protesting” in Canada right now were in
fact “sold on or bossed into accepting someone else's plans,” namely far right
wing and conspiracy theory and dark money groups that are funding and cynically
manipulating the truckers and others into participating in
me that I would feel much better if our exchange is as broad as
> possible... it would expand the space for the most powerful and sustained
> force we know of.
>
> Greetings from Berlin where neighbors and friends and family come by on this
> sunny winterday with a bit o
I’m sorry but I do not think this kind of massive disinformation and political
agenda belongs on this list.
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> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList
> wrote:
>
>
> These are not my thoughts or my words. I Do not know the author. But here
> is food fo
Jeff,
And, maybe to be a little redundant to say, but meant to be respectfully
honoring, both Chris Corrigan and Peggy Holman have really beautiful graphics
that describe this path.
John Watkins
Oakland, CA
> On Dec 13, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Jeff Aitken via OSList
> wrote:
>
> Hi
Jeff,
In the educational equity world we call this “radical inclusion” and “design
from the margins.” Glad to see it show up in your work too. And of course it
reminds us of the classic Meg Wheatley quote about healing a system by getting
it together with more of itself, especially the parts of
” processes. Thanks!
John Watkins
> On Oct 27, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList
> wrote:
>
> A blog by Chris about PNI is below. In the example, an animating theme is
> "how to get a bunch of perspectives from throughout a company on a new phase
> in a company’s e
Jamila Dugan, in their
new book, Street Data: A next generation model for equity, pedagogy, and school
transformation. Thanks for posting!
John Watkins
Oakland, CA
> On Oct 26, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList
> wrote:
>
> I looked into "the method" with Chri
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design? What needs
to they have that we’ve overlooked?
So, I hope this is a helpful way to think about both Future Search and Peggy’s
great frame.
John Watkins
> On Nov 12, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Peggy Holman via OSList
> wrote:
>
> Hi Open Space list friends,
>
> Sandra
Which time zone is that 7:30 please?
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> On Apr 4, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Rolf Schneidereit via OSList
> wrote:
>
> Hey Alexander,
>
> there will be a test of Qiqochat and Open Space next Monday,
> see below
>
> Rolf
>
>
> NEXT EXPERIMENT
> We learned so much in this exper
I’m also interested in this question. We’ve had to cancel an upcoming convening
of school district senior leaders from around North America that was to be in
large part an open space event. Now we’re considering if we can do it virtually
using zoom. I’d love to hear ideas!
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>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 11:03 AM, john watkins via OSList
>> wrote:
>>
>> As Dave Snowden says, in his Cynefin framework, in complex spaces, the
>> leader’s role is to “probe, categorize,
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>> Cc: Kári Gunnarsson
>> Subject: [OSList] Is there experience in developing Open Space further in
>> organizations and networks after the initial intervention
>>
>> Hi my dear open space fa
voice of
>> experience. I wrote a paper about white folks learning some things...
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 9:42 AM john watkins > <mailto:johnw...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> Jeff,
>>
>> And I love that you have brought
<mailto:k.ro...@wlv.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Great,
>
>
>
> As I posted I thought you might already be engaged in this arena.. ☺
>
>
>
> Have you looked at Sen and capability theory applied to education?
>
>
>
> K
>
>
>
> F
> Hi John
>
> Have you seen…
> http://www.michaelfullan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/3897.Rich_Seam_web.pdf
> <http://www.michaelfullan.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/3897.Rich_Seam_web.pdf>
> … ?
>
> I will read your blog
>
> K
>
> From: john
/we_are_not_newtonian_billiard_balls_the_need_for_a_new_approach_to_adult_learning.html
<http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/learning_deeply/2018/06/we_are_not_newtonian_billiard_balls_the_need_for_a_new_approach_to_adult_learning.html>
Lovely to hear all your ideas!
John Watkins
> On Jul 10, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Royle, Karl via OSList
> wrote:
&
Chris,
So it sounds to me as though you are saying something like the framing of
purpose and the tying together of harvest (to build on what Jeff said) are what
help all the micro conversations to contribute usefully to the necessary
diversity of ways of thinking that create oblique views in or
Just a simple thought here: I have almost never as a facilitator sorted or
combined any kind of brainstormed list for participants. I find that they are
really good at doing whatever sorting and combining is needed themselves,
sometimes with a minor prompt, and sometimes with no prompting at a
then the river redefines the banks with its power. But without
banks, the water flows all over the place and loses its power and "intention."
I love the ways your friends name things like purpose and culture. Both set
boundaries that then allow emergence that then redefines boundarie
o accomplish instead. So, I would go for purpose first, and use goals
only as a crutch (this is a good purpose for them, BTW), or even,
retrospectively, once purpose and meaning and intention and aligned actions are
envisioned and something has been accomplished.
John Watkins
On Jan 4, 2015, at
al framing because so many people are either intimidated by
those theories or they are explicitly and vocally anti-theory (not realizing we
all operate on theories all the time). So I sometimes comment about those
ideas here on the listserve.
But I am always here! Keep the work and the words flow
And I would add this, a beautiful poem by Raymond Carver, which pretty well
defines my sense of the opposite of lonely:
Late Fragment - by Raymond Carver
And did you get what
you wanted from this life, even so?
I did.
And what did you want?
To call myself beloved, to feel myself
beloved on the ea
How about a small-ish fishbowl open seating inner circle with microphones, and
concentric circles outside that for everyone else. Anyone wishing to share
concluding thoughts comes and sits in an open seat in the inner circle, shares,
and then takes part in the conversation or leaves to open the
Congratulations, Peggy!
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On Mar 11, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Suzanne Daigle wrote:
> Peggy opening great big space in the world of Journalism. I thought your Open
> Space friends and colleagues would be delighted to hear this news. Hearty
> Congratulations. Exciting news!
>
king. We live in a
>> ‘territory' filled with flow and synchronicity. We even find that this field
>> of love (we call it the heart field) travels with us, so they keep showing
>> up everywhere.
>>
>> You don’t have to wait for the fair to go on wild rides!
&
kipedia:
> "The second law of thermodynamics states that in general the total entropy of
> any system (the disorder, randomness, or our lack of information about it)
> will not decrease other than by increasing the entropy of some other system."
>
> So when participants organ
participants organize themselves during Open Space does something
>> else become disorganized? Or is it that all the disorder created (by
>> consuming the muffins, coffee, fuel, paper, electricity, etc) always
>> outweighed by the order created by the self-organization?
>>
&g
> For what it's worth, below is an interesting thread I found from the list
> archives from a few years ago that mentions entropy...
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Charlottesville, VA
>
>
>
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Lisa,
I am very interested in information and registration materials.
Thanks,
John
On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:28 PM, Lisa Heft new wrote:
> Hello, dear colleagues -
>
> I warmly invite you to the annual Fabulous Facilitation Conference 2014 - an
> annual gathering for conversations and learning
gt; one may move up, or down or remain stationary, the movements follow a
>> certain logic. Why and when one moves up and down the stairs is a contingent
>> matter, but when one moves one has to follow a certain logic. When societies
>> step up a stair they have expanded their c
est has been solidarity - what
> makes people bond and cooperate, and thus what makes societies stick
> together. That's why he's been interested in communication.
>
> Marie Ann
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:39 AM, John Watkins wrote:
&g
Paul and Marie Ann,
There are some pretty loose uses of terms in this conversation I'd like to
challenge. I don't think Piaget ever talked about human evolution, nor about
an individual "evolving," nor about societal cognitive development over time.
He did develop a theory about individual hu
Remember Ted Sizer's adage, "less is more." Depth over breadth.
On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:11 PM, doug wrote:
> Chuni--
>
> Seems to me it would be more fun for the student to not have to struggle
> through homework without any help at night, but to watch videos instead!
>
> In any case, I have lo
I don't think self organizing systems are goal seeking systems. By definition,
goal seeking systems are homeostatic, and not emergent or transformational. I
think self organizing systems are purpose seeking systems; hence, as Peggy
says, always looking for new meanings to emerge in a dialectic
y value the roots of policy and pratice that
> set out in academia, however commercialised that environment has to be these
> days. Wonder if John is US, Oz or elsewhere? Might make a difference
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I don't know why you would need a university researcher to do this work. Plenty
of consulting organizations do really high quality ethnographic research for
organizational change initiatives. Some of us were trained in graduate school
in ethnographic research as a change strategy, even ways to u
I think we get into a lot of trouble when we start to call things that humans
make up "natural." The Law and the Principles are not natural; they are human
constructs. They may have been created to mimic "natural" emergent systems of
self-organizing, but they are not natural. My two cents wor
To second Peggy, I co-designed and co-ran a three day future search two decades
ago for the board, staff, alumni, and community of the National Outdoor
Leadership School in Lander, WY. It was one of the coolest things I've ever
facilitated and experienced. I highly recommend learning more abou
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As much as I love OST, and as much as I recognize the inevitability and
desirability of emergent processes, as well as their power to engage and compel
people, after some twenty-seven years (probably more, but at least officially)
facilitating groups and watching groups engaged in deep conversat
Evan,
My suggestions are not big process tools, but they are powerful activities.
That being said, I'm a big fan of the Five Why's as a way to deepen exploration
of root causes, including hidden assumptions, in a situation once it has been
well described (an old TQM tool). Also, exploring "pr
Spark,
I once used the hero's journey as the framework for a three day workshop for a
large and well known advertising firm that was going through a very self aware
transition from its founder-leaders into a new leadership regime. They loved
it. I now consider it an archetypal workshop proces
Anna,
There are great stories in the writing of William Foote Whyte and Emery and
Trist from long ago, about participatory action research. Also you could read
some of Marvin Weisbord's stories in his writing about Future Search.
John
On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:21 AM, Anna Caroline Türk wrote:
>
I love this. So true.
John
On Jan 31, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Chris Corrigan wrote:
> Gandhi said "it is not the English that hold us, it is us that hold them."
> It is not the banks that need to change. It is us, with our blindspots to
> our own privilege that need to open space in our own live
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I have been watching and pondering this conversation for some time now, with
curiosity and some skepticism. Paraphrasing Clifford Geertz, "...believing,
with [Clifford Geertz], that man is an animal suspended in webs of significance
he himself has spun, I take..." this conversation to be about,
Suzanne,
My favorite line of all (below), and so appropriate in my work today...
Love!
John
On May 25, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Suzanne Daigle wrote:
> That said, there were still moments of magic as the space awkwardly opened.
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The charrette process does not need to be just about concrete architecture;
we've used it for ages in school redesign, along with other protocols that
allow people to self organize and then use the protocols to design new
prototypes, examine each other's work in deep ways, and iterate. Also use
Jeff,
I think the author of this article gets so caught up in the ontological
problems of Bateson's views that he misses the real point: that what Bateson
is referring to is an epistemological process, that is, the process of
differentiating information from noise that perception and cognition
The most intriguing example of this I've experienced is having people go and
stand under a particular sign of offering, just to see who and how many there
are. Then if people in that group feel there are too many or too few, they can
use the law of two feet to divide in two or go join another g
> that tricks us - To each his or her own, and that is what makes
> life so wonderful. Be well. j
>
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uenced by spirit - I prefer the latter.
> Intention ask the universe for guidance -
>
> juan
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>
>
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Well, as a conceptual model, I'd say it might be accurate, as far as we know,
but it is a conceptual model trying to describe a very dynamic and fluid
universe! There is the whole question of incommensurability. :-)
John
On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:32 AM, fischer florian wrote:
> I thought, that s
There are lots of forms of "energy" that pass through the "membranes" of
companies besides just money! People and their passions are one.
John
On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Skye Hirst wrote:
> Thanks Arthur - reminds me of the thoughts of Arie deGeus in his book on
> "The Living Company" who
her the share Oscar from equilibrium or close
> to equilibrium as I suspect is born out by the thousands of successful
> examples. It seems to me the critical ingredients in boteh these situations
> are; is there enough diversity present and is there enough passion/caring/
> energy pre
ur five acts of siva might fit in very nicely.
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> Michael,
>
> I think Gregory Bateson addressed the question of equilibrium
Michael,
I think Gregory Bateson addressed the question of equilibrium most eloquently a
long time ago in his great book, Steps to an Ecology of Mind! And I've seen
some great analysis of it in Jay Lemke's book, Textual Politics. Let's see if
I can find the relevant quotes...
Bateson: System
That works.
>> Thank you a lot.
>> Florian
>>
>> Florian Fischer
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nally a clear definition. That works.
> Thank you a lot.
> Florian
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> Am 19.09.2011 um 06:25 schrieb John Watkin
Artur,
The term "open systems" comes from thermodynamics, especially from Prigogine
and Stengers, who also refer to them as "dissipative" systems. It does not
mean open to change; it means open in the sense of importing "energy" from
outside itself and excreting "energy" back into the surround
Birgitt,
Self organizing systems have two major capacities that are ubiquitous in the
universe:
1) pattern emergence, or the unavoidability of new orders emerging out of chaos
or complexity or turbulence; and,
2) pattern recognition and replication, often referred to as autopoiesis, the
way t
The only god I know says, freely organize in open systems according to the
principles of pattern emergence, and your own choices. There is no judgment
nor teleology except our own.
John
On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Amanda Bucklow wrote:
> gOd the Moderator is saying that you talk too much! :)
Congratulations, Peggy! My copy just arrived in the mail yesterday! I'm so
glad I bought it! And that you wrote it! I hope some day to meet you. I've
been sharing your work with students and colleagues for a long time now.
John Watkins
On May 22, 2011, at 1:10 PM, Peggy Ho
I make it a standard practice not ever to accept connections with any site that
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