Hi, I am a lurker OTA student learning a lot by just reading these posts. We
do touch on theory...NDT, PNF, Rood Etc ETc but I think what future COTAs
really want to hear is more practical to everyday treatment. Teach theory
but relate it to treament ideas etc. You may consider touching on the
OTR/
ke it
relevent to what a COTA would normally do in a facility. Diane
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Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:52
To: Diane Randall
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Guest Lecture at COTA Program, but not sure..
Thanks D
I have just been learning so much from reading. I feel I am so knew at this
game that I can't really contribute a whole lot to the discussions you have
been having but when I see one that I think I can contribute too I will
certainly post. Thanks
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Ron, I am a COTA student. I believe part of he problem is that media is not
being taught in OT school. There are two programs in our area. Our program
requires two media classes where we have to learn everything from knitting
to ceramics. Our teacher frowns upon "clothespins" and "cones" and makes
.
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Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 07:14
To: Diane Randall
Subject: Re: [OTlist] AARGH!
Hello Diane:
Thanks for writing.
I want to encourage you to try and see things a little differently.
You
m for home.? It is so simple and rewarding to
take this aproach in occupational therapy.
Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR
St. John's Hospital of ?Anderson Indiana
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To: Diane Randall
Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:27 pm
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Great ideas. I have challenged patients to a game of Connect Four. Not sure
if I would consider that functional but it really did seem to make the pts
stand for longer periods of time, which was the main goal. I remember last
year I was asked to come up with an idea for encouraging forward bending
OK Ron, I am confused. can you really write notes like that? I was told to
never put the actual intervention into a note.especially "crochet". This
sounds like a note from a mental health clinic. It is not Phys Dis, is it?
Did she have some sort of fine motor issue? The note would certainly no
If I agreed with everything everyone said on this forum, I would not be on
it. It would be boring. I am just a student right now and I am learning a
lot about the profession from reading these posts. I don't feel qualified to
really contribute in the ways that some on here have done because I do no
ording issues. Ron, you clearly see your patients as real people with
emotional/social needs and not just a "case".
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 03:46
To: Diane Randall
Subject: Re
LOL Ron, we say " no to clothpins and cones" Diane
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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 20:42
To: Barbara H. Hale
Subject: Re: [OTlist] otconnection/otnow
You know, it was exactly the
Helllo all, I have a patient who is one week post thorasic laminectomy and I
am teaching her how to use a reacher. Does anyone have a fun idea for an
activity that I can do with the reacher that goes beyond simply picking
stuff off the floor. Maybe some kind of game. I don't mind making something
I don't think using a reacher is something most need "continued" training
for but Hip Fx pts need to initially learn to use it. You would be suprised
at some who have a hard time. We put pennies. paper , magazines and a
variety of househols items on the floor to pick up. Some automatically want
to
Very well said!!!
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Subject: Re: [OTlist] Game using reacher
If someone is going to be using a reacher for the f
Wow..I am interning in adult rehab right now and UE therex is only used for
people who really need it. Been there six weeks and everything revolves
around function.
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message from your system.
On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Diane Randall wrote:
> Wow..I am interning in adult rehab right now and UE therex is only
> used for
> people who really need it. Been there six weeks and everything
> revolves
> around function.
>
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 18:41
To: Diane Randall
Subject: Re: [OTlist] The Saddest OT Statement I've Ever Heard
Dianne, thanks for your feedback. Will you give us some examples of what
you mean by "everything revolves around function"
go elsewhere to accomplish this. I'd like to run my own
department someday, but
I want to learn as much as I can specifically about functional treatment, that
is, in addition to doing ADLs
with patients.
Any info would be appreciated.
Barb Howard, COTA
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I just meant that I have only been there for six weeks and I feel I have
been taught to focus on funtional activites for the entire time I have been
there. ( I was responding to Ron's experience with a PTA who said he had not
witnessed OT's doing anything functional just UE exercises.)
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My supervisor is just finishing up an eval on a patient who has double
vision secondary to brain surgury. Has anyone had a patient with this
particular deficit and can offer ideas on compensation strategies to perform
adls/safe functional mobility. etc? Thanks
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> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 3:39 PM
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> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Double vision
>
> The only compensation that I know of for double vision is
> patching one eye. Of course, there are complica
vision or also from vestibular issues?
Elizabeth Thiers, OTR/L
FECTS
ehthiersfe...@earthlink.net
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In your opinion, what makes an activity purposeful and how would you go
about making a non-ADL actvity purposeful? Thanks Diane OTAS
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Hmm. not sure but I used to babysit for a vestibular PT. He once told me
that OT's cannot do vestibular therapy. Not sure why or even if it is
accurate? I am not sure what vestibular OT would look like as a treatment.
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Hello, As a new OTA/L a week into my first job in a SNF, I have become well
acquainted with the UE focus of OT. But, I think the most frustrating part
of the process is not some much the interventions but the fact that so many
of my patients have really no "occupation" to look forward to when
disch
My first love was teaching...I went to school first for early childhood
education ...then elementary before I switched to OT. I worked in a snf prn
and will be full-time in Peds outpatient by the fall. The teaching element
of OT is what attracted me to the professional initially. Diane OTA/L
I am fairly new at this but I was suprised when I went into a very
self-conscious and proud bariatric patients room for the first time to do an
ADL with him and he could not understand why I was there. He was a little
uncomfortable. I explained that although he sees me in the gym and he does
perfor
The patient was unable to bear weight on his legs due to PN and did not have
the strength to hold his weight up in a RW, he also could not stand beyond 5
seconds without his knees buckling as he is close to 500 pounds. He worked
up from 5 to 10 llb weights in all planes per day and he was a very
d
believe an overall weight lifting program
will benefit his continued weightloss over time."
Chris
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From: Diane Randall
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Sent: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 7:51 am
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Why OT's Should NOT Focus on the UE
The patient was unable to bear w
otlist-boun...@otnow.com [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com]on
Behalf Of Ron Carson
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 22:08
To: Diane Randall
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Why OT's Should NOT Focus on the UE
My concern in this is that you ONLY mention and UE program. If general
conditioning prevent
"Is it a roll-in shower, walk-in shower, tub w/ a shower, glass
doors, does it have a seat, how big is the shower, does it have
grab rails."
Here is another problem. He had been at the SNF forover a month without a
shower before he finally transfered in. I aked about his bathi
" Ask yourself, are you doing something that an
aide could be doing? If so, then you are not doing therapy!"
Please explain... you are correct in that aides may not know the clinical
reasoning behind a therapy but the actual physical part of engaging in
theraputic activity with a patient can
Thank you so much for your encouragement. Sometimes as a new COTA, I feel
like I have limited power but it my short time working I have realized that
I have more power than I initally thought to intervene and make the sessions
more relevent to the individual. It is not easy in a SNF, I see 10 patie
I am with you about the UE problem in rehab but I really need to know how we
can fix this...I have 14 patients to see within 6 hours, some are ADL's but I
cannot have one on one treatments most of the time. I cannot do a shower
transfer and have 6 patients waiting in the gym. I am kind of at a l
f you for trying to find ways to do your job better for the
help of others..My thanks go to all of you..
Shirley
--- On Thu, 7/23/09, Diane Randall wrote:
From: Diane Randall
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Vision ~vs~ Reality
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 6:24 PM
I am with you
am learning as I go.
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From: otlist-boun...@otnow.com [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com]on
Behalf Of Ron Carson
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 20:32
To: Diane Randall
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Vision ~vs~ Reality
In all honesty, the problem of OT is not directly related to
I looked and looked and I did not see real personal goals on our evals. The
goals are the same for everyone (ADL's, transfers etc), not written in a
goal sentence, and recommended treatments which tend to get checked off a
list (self-care, theraputic activity, theraputic exercise) and the
occasiona
I learned a lot from having to spend 4 hours in a wheel chair and we were
required to visit various locations around campus. It gave me a appreciation
for how hard it was to manuver w/c's and it gave me a bit more compassion
for those who are required to use them even on a temporary basis in adult
Ron I am not sure that question can really be answered. Everyone in therapy
comes in with thier own quirks/baggage. Everyone is not going to like you
and it may or may not have anything to do with you. The fact that the
patients reason was a "personality clash" indicates that it is not really
about
Hello, I have been given (along with 11 other patients I have) a new CVA
patient. I have never worked with someone tis impaired and i don't know
where to start. I am in a SNF and pt had been in an acute rehab for about a
month prior for therapy. He is Dependent for all ADL's and
transfers...sometim
I want to thank everyone for thier responses. It has been very usefull
Diane Randall COTA/L
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From: otlist-boun...@otnow.com [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com]on
Behalf Of Ron Carson
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 05:54
To: Sue Doyle
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Massive new
"My clients
probably know more about neuroplasticity and grading activities than
many OT's!"
That brings to mind Ron's thread about teaching COTA's. A very powerful
teaching approach is to help students empathize with the plight of those
with disease and disability. I heard there are glasses that
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Behalf Of Ron Carson
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 20:32
To: Diane Randall
Subject: Re: [OTlist] OTlist Digest, Vol 74, Issue 1
It's so weird that you mention empathy. I was just discussing with the
OTA program director that I believe that having students do
disab
I am not familiar with what the controversy is surrounding this issue. What
research about this is lacking? What kind of money is being spent on the
issue and why is it not relevant to OT? Diane COTA/L Peds
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I have to say that was the most annoying thing about working with SLP's in a
snf. I love working with patients who have cog goals. But all the things I
learned in COTA school that I could do with patients were done by SLP's. I
am still very confused about the role of SLP in a SNF. I thought their f
you do.
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From: Diane Randall
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Subject: Re: [OTlist] A New One
Sent: Aug 24, 2009 7:14 AM
I have to say that was the most annoying thing about working with SLP's in a
snf. I love working
, Joan
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Behalf Of Diane Randall
Sent: August 24, 2009 5:14 AM
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Subject: Re: [OTlist] A New One
I have to say that was the most annoying thing about working with SLP's
in a
snf. I
tlist-boun...@otnow.com [mailto:otlist-boun...@otnow.com] On
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Sent: August 24, 2009 9:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [OTlist] A New One
For instance, why would a SLP give a person a peg board pattern?
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Sent: August 24, 2009 9:39 AM
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Subject: Re: [OTlist] A New One
For instance, why would a SLP give a person a peg board pattern?
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I will be working as a COTA/L in an outpatient Peds clinic starting next
month after working all summer in a SNF.( I did a 2 month FW rotation at the
Peds Clinic) I have a background in Early Childhood Education as well. I
remember well learning in ECE that "play" is a child's work...or we might
ca
I have had trouble finding it available for myself, my husband or my
daughter even though she is in the age high risk catagory.
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Behalf Of jcd...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:54
To: otlist@o
I saw that story about that girl:it was the strangest medical story I have
heard about in a long time. When she runs or walks backwards, she talks and
moves normally normally. If she tries to walk, she is practically crippled
and cannot speak.
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