System.Data classes and List

2011-07-20 Thread Greg Keogh
Folks, I get the impression that the DataSet and its child classes classes are falling out of favour, is that true? However, I personally find them to be very convenient and full-featured for apps of all sizes (but I don't expose them to the outside world of course and my discussion here is only ab

Re: System.Data classes and List

2011-07-20 Thread Stephen Price
Ok, who wants to banish Greg? Bags not. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Greg Keogh wrote: > Folks, I get the impression that the DataSet and its child classes classes > are falling out of favour, is that true? However, I personally find them to > be very convenient and full-featured for apps of

Re: System.Data classes and List

2011-07-20 Thread Winston Pang
I think you just answered yourself, keyword is convenience. Isn't that what all these frameworks are for? To make things convenient for us developers. Sure people get bored of technologies pretty quickly, but what ever does the job, and if you know it well and can achieve better results with it, th

Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread David Connors
Now for something different... Does anyone work at a place that can mill down a block of metal (with a working face, say, half the size of a business card) at very high precision? I have access to a CNC lathe but they can't do internal square corners (obviously). Does anyone on the list work at a

Re: System.Data classes and List

2011-07-20 Thread Grant Molloy
Hi Greg.. I've worked a bit with an open source app called nSurvey ( http://survey.codeplex.com), and it uses the datatables and datasets all the way from DB to UI. However, it's overridden/extended the dataset and data table to make them more like strongly bound types. I don't know if these are

Re: System.Data classes and List

2011-07-20 Thread djones147
Hi, At the moment, at work, there are three projects running and the one that I support. Legacy app. Uses datasets everywhere. Pros. Very fast, readonly application. Cons. Impossible to debug / modify, data is often loaded behind the scenes which cause temporary database table locks .Net 4 w

Re: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread linas
Title: Re: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe? Really enjoyed this post :)  This would qualify for an award "Most OT of the Decade"  Any other contenders??  (I have passed this on to some engineering colleagues in the hope they can help - I am not really taking the piss...

RE: Silverlight 4 OOB for Mac- Drag drop?

2011-07-20 Thread Greg Keogh
Winston, I also think it's not possible, but I'm not 100% sure. I did some drag-and-drop research a few weeks ago and couldn't even find a single example that was done from first principles inside the app's controls. I eventually had to rely on ComponentOne's weird control to help me get it working

Re: Silverlight 4 OOB for Mac- Drag drop?

2011-07-20 Thread Winston Pang
Thanks for the responses guys, looks like the general consensus is a no. And any attempts at doing so is more of a hack and illusion. Cheers again to everyone! :) On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Greg Keogh wrote: > Winston, I also think it’s not possible, but I’m not 100% sure. I did some > dr

RE: System.Data classes and List

2011-07-20 Thread Kirsten Greed
Hi Davy Have you looked at EF4.1 Code first release? I am wondering if it would alter your thinking on prefering Nhibernate for new projects Kirsten _ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of djones...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, 20 July

RE: System.Data classes and List

2011-07-20 Thread Greg Keogh
Chaps, your comments are interesting and perhaps make me feel not so guilty for using System.Data classes in these modern times. I've only used netTiers and EF4 in recent years, but deep down they all run a SELECT statement, loop through the rows and move the columns into collections of objects

Re: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread mike smith
Sounds intriguing. If it aint secret, and you'd have to kill us all if you told us, go on... Ideas that occur are does it have to be metal, could you make it with some of the 3d printer stuff that's starting to happen? On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:37 PM, David Connors wrote: > Now for something

Re: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread David Connors
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:04 AM, mike smith wrote: > Sounds intriguing. If it aint secret, and you'd have to kill us all if you > told us, go on... > Ideas that occur are does it have to be metal, could you make it with some > of the 3d printer stuff that's starting to happen? > I want to make

Re: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread mike smith
So something like a branding iron onto leather. (or forehead[1]) :^) Of course, if you're using a laser, you could use that direct on end material to produce code. But maybe you want to sell the stamp to ppl without a laser. [1] a QR code that would take you to www.thenumberofthebeast.com On

Re: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread Michael Minutillo
I wonder if these guys could do it http://www.jetcutaustralia.com.au/ I've seen them get ridiculuous levels of precision. Michael M. Minutillo Indiscriminate Information Sponge http://codermike.com On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:24 AM, mike smith wrote: > So something like a branding iron onto lea

RE: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread Keith Peck
Have a chat to a stamp maker. I'm sure you aren't the first person to want a metal stamp and certainly won't be the last. A laser cutter will be able to do what you want, but they are restricted by the width of the cutting "beam", which in the cases I've seen is actually quite wide, something in

Re: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread David Connors
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Keith Peck wrote: > Have a chat to a stamp maker. I'm sure you aren't the first person to > want a metal stamp and certainly won't be the last. > A laser cutter will be able to do what you want, but they are restricted by > the width of the cutting "beam", which

YOW! 2011 Melbourne & Brisbane

2011-07-20 Thread Mitch Wheat
Hi all Just in case some of you haven't seen this already, the YOW! 2011 Developer Conference is happening in Melbourne & Brisbane in December (No Perth event yet, but we're working on it... ) Not specifically targeting .NET, but worth checking out. More details here: http://www.yowconf

Re: Anyone got some sort laser cutter better than a CNC lathe?

2011-07-20 Thread Michael Minutillo
Mention my name, they'll charge you more ;) Brother in laws family runs it On Jul 21, 2011 9:45 AM, "David Connors" wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Keith Peck wrote: > >> Have a chat to a stamp maker. I'm sure you aren't the first person to >> want a metal stamp and certainly won't be

Re: System.Data classes and List

2011-07-20 Thread Nathan Schultz
My love affair with datasets fell away as I improved as a programmer... We initially used data-sets in a failing project years ago early in the .Net days. It was a nightmare to maintain - and the underlying database schema wasn't settled. Due to the lack of strong typing in data-sets a change in c