Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Tony Wright
Either way, the Coalition policy sounds like a winner! 1/4 of the speed at 2/3 of the price without actually solving the problem (decaying copper lines) and all at the measly price of $20 billion for a do nothing solution, yay! (Yep, I'm starting it) On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM, mike smith w

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread mike smith
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Tony Wright wrote: > Perhaps they could use the drones to increase the pace a bit? > > > Plenty of em in Parliament. > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM, David Connors wrote: > >> I wasn't aware they have stepped up the pace of the deployment. >> >> David Conn

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread mike smith
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) wrote: > 2027? > > ** > Oops, I suppose my remark could be taken as an incentive to make it take longer. > ** > > Regards, > > ** ** > > Greg > > ** ** > > Dr Greg Low > > ** ** > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 4

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Tony Wright
Perhaps they could use the drones to increase the pace a bit? On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:27 PM, David Connors wrote: > I wasn't aware they have stepped up the pace of the deployment. > > David Connors > da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 > Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/da

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
I wasn't aware they have stepped up the pace of the deployment. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidj

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
2027? Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread mike smith
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Stephen Price wrote: > This seems like an appropriate point to troll this thread and mention the > NBN. Bwhahahahaha.. > > Hey it IS Friday. :) > > Vote for the NBN. Until it's finished, and then vote to your taste. > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM, David Co

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-11 Thread Stephen Price
The way the Web won. (insert whistling cowboy music) On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) wrote: > I think they are responding to the BYOD movement as well. The days of IT > staff defining an SOE and forcing everyone to use it are gone, or at least > disappearing fast. It’s r

RE: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
I think they are responding to the BYOD movement as well. The days of IT staff defining an SOE and forcing everyone to use it are gone, or at least disappearing fast. It's really common to have top-down decisions on this stuff now ie: CEOs coming in with their tablets and saying "make it work here"

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Yes, but by the time .Net developers started to use WebServices everyone else moved on to REST as they figured out WS were bloody hard to use, incompatible between platforms, heavyweight, hard to upgrade and generally a pain in the *** to develop against :) Now everyone is talking lightweight REST

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

2013-04-11 Thread Tom Rutter
Wasn't the original intent for .net to be for creating web services? On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Katherine Moss wrote: > Then why are the majority rather than the minority of windows 8 modern > apps (I hate that term when talking about computers and servers, belongs on > a mobile phone),

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
Don't start me. :) David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM,

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Stephen Price
This seems like an appropriate point to troll this thread and mention the NBN. Bwhahahahaha.. Hey it IS Friday. :) On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM, David Connors wrote: > EXACTLY. On a related note, I am always amused at these cloud providers > using geographical maps rather than network topo

MVC4 URLs

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
Hi Folks, In MVC4, in the code for a controller, what's the best way to calculate the fully qualified URL for a particular action? Eg: If I use Url.Action("SomeAction","SomeController") The intellisense for Action says "gets a fully qualified URL". However what I get back is: /

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
EXACTLY. On a related note, I am always amused at these cloud providers using geographical maps rather than network topological ones to determine where to put their customers. Both Salesforce and Microsoft put their Aussie customer sin Singers, presumably because they see us as part of APAC or that

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
And ironically, that’s value that Telstra really could potentially bring to the table. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com From: David

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
The solution for small business will be to wait for MS to do their own voice in the same DCs. They need to digitus extractus and get infrastructure in Oz to make that work (unless you want a local call for a pizza to have the same lag as a call to the US or Singapore via Japan). Multi-tennant voic

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
Agreed, but not every Office365 customer is an enterprise customer. One of the benefits of things like Office 365 is that it allows big company options for small companies that couldn’t otherwise arrange it themselves, or don’t have the personnel to implement it. In most cases, I see these p

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
To do voice properly, at an enterprise level, you need to QoS the shit out of the links and preferrably use private IP/dedicated connections to the VOIP provider. If you do that, VOIP is pretty much as good as PSTN. If you want to run it over the intarwebs, well, good luck with that. David Connor

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
I don’t see any real reason why the US providers of Lync to PSTN integration couldn’t offer services to Australia. I’d be happy to have VOIP calls back to/from Australia when making/returning calls. You’d think you’d be able to just connect a local SIP endpoint to the IP of those overseas provid

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Thanks, that's great info. Any idea of a "low-cost" service to turn Lync into PABX? Could I connect it to my iiNet iiTalk? Could I buy Office365 + Lync E4 from US or is Telstra really the only option? Thanks, Corneliu. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Greg Low (GregLow.com) wrote: > Product

RE: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Greg Low (GregLow.com)
Product = great. Telstra support = very poor. If we could deal directly with Microsoft, it would be far superior. Telstra seem to just add a layer of additional complexity, plus a big delay in support issues. You have to deal with them first for support. Generally they later pass it on to Microsoft

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
"on prem" ... I don't understand that term anymore :) On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM, David Connors wrote: > I don't think cloudy Lync does telephony/mediation server stuff. That > significantly reduces Lync's usefulness. > > We have Lync on prem at Codify with all the meeting place stuff set

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread David Connors
I don't think cloudy Lync does telephony/mediation server stuff. That significantly reduces Lync's usefulness. We have Lync on prem at Codify with all the meeting place stuff set up with 1300 number dial in for meetings etc. Once you have that working properly with Outlook appointments, you cannot

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Preet Sangha
There was some issue with Lync, not getting messages offline or similar - but I can't remember the details. I'll ask the boys when they get back from lunch. On 12 April 2013 12:34, Preet Sangha wrote: > Use it for our company. Excellent. Onenote (sharepoint) , and Exchange are > the biz! > > Ly

Re: Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Preet Sangha
Use it for our company. Excellent. Onenote (sharepoint) , and Exchange are the biz! Lync never offered much to us. We skype between offices (US, NZ and UK), lync offered nothing much over this. Sorry don't know about AU offerings. On 12 April 2013 12:18, Corneliu I. Tusnea wrote: > Hi, > > A

Office365 ?

2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Hi, Anyone tried Office365 + Lync? Is it worth it? Is it only available via Telstra or can I buy it in other ways? How is customer support and what is the quality of Lync vs Skype? Thanks, Corneliu.

Skype: Call Transfer removed?

2013-04-11 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Anyone has any idea why Microsoft decided to remove the Call Transfer feature in Skype? They just alienated every business customer possible and if this just a move to force us to move to Lync then they are very very stupid :((( https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA1241/how-can-i-transfer-a-call Co