RE: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Rob Andrew
Michael,What is the development platform of choice for the cool kids you are seeing?Just wondering.Rob- Original Message - From: Michael Ridland [mailto:rid...@gmail.com] To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Sent: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:38:49 +1000 Subject: Future of .NET HiIt's clear that in the Start-u

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Michael Ridland
Python / Django / Rails. I think you would be hard press for find a .NET job on AngelList. Well actually I can see 53 companies out of 3916 that use asp.net. https://angel.co/ifttt/jobs I'm not bashing just noting my observations and wanted opinions? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Rob And

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Michael Ridland
Does this eventually filter into enterprise and if so what does that mean for .NET? On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Michael Ridland wrote: > > Python / Django / Rails. > > I think you would be hard press for find a .NET job on AngelList. Well > actually I can see 53 companies out of 3916 tha

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Mark Hurd
Another non-.NET opinion, admittedly maily because he want's a fully open source solution: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2013/03/why-ruby.html -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.)

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
I don't think this will necessarily filter into the enterprise in a big. .NET and Java are both really strong in enterprise, as are Oracle and SQL Server but not that strong in startups. Enterprise and startups have different requirements. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Michael Ridland wrote:

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Greg Harris
Microsoft are trying to fix the startup thing with Biz Spark ( http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/) But when they make super stuff ups like the non support of Silverlight you do have ask what the @#$%^&* they are doing ! On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Craig van Nieuwkerk wrote: > I don't t

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Nathan Schultz
I don't think Microsoft was ever popular with the Startup community. The last time I did anything in that area LAMP was all the rage. I have one mate in the Start-Up community who has used ASP.NET MVC on a project, and said it stacks up okay against Rails. But he hated Entity Framework (he said he

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
Interesting what you say about Go. From what I can tell Ruby/Python and LAMP stack are all a bit 2010 for the really cool kids so they are moving to Go. It's a hipster thing. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Nathan Schultz wrote: > I don't think Microsoft was ever popular with the Startup commu

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Andrew McGrath
. AFAIK, still need native on mobile devices to be able to interact with SQLite as I don't think Javascript + PhoneGap gives you that. From: "Nathan Schultz" Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:17 PM To: "ozDotNet" Subject: Re: Futu

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Scott Barnes
ET code once and run it on web, natively on Android, iOS, > Mac and PCuseful in some scenarios. > > AFAIK, still need native on mobile devices to be able to interact with > SQLite as I don't think Javascript + PhoneGap gives you that. > > --------------

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Greg Harris
tick to it to create a .NET IDE for the webusing Visual Web >> GUI (essentially .NET WinForms that runs via your browser) and Xamarin. >> >> Can now write .NET code once and run it on web, natively on Android, iOS, >> Mac and PCuseful in some scenarios. >> >&

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Joseph Cooney
/www.riagenic.com >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Andrew McGrath < >> andrew.mcgr...@workslink.com.au> wrote: >> >>> .NET 2.0 coding still has some uses >>> >>> Had to stick to it to create a .NET IDE for the webusing V

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Michael Ridland
rt-ups occupy today - gaming/kickstarter style >>> space. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Regards, >>> Scott Barnes >>> http://www.riagenic.com >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Andr

RE: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread David Kean
K, still need native on mobile devices to be able to interact with SQLite as I don't think Javascript + PhoneGap gives you that. From: "Nathan Schultz" mailto:milish...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:17 PM To: "ozDotNet"

RE: Future of .NET

2013-08-21 Thread Joseph Cooney
:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Cooney > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:22 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: Future of .NET > > ** ** > > The mono project and xamarin seem to be doing great things w

RE: Future of .NET

2013-08-22 Thread Tony Wright
22 August 2013 3:38 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: Future of .NET Fool me once - shame on you. Fool me twice.you know the rest. On 22 Aug 2013 15:36, "David Kean" mailto:david.k...@microsoft.com> > wrote: Have faith my friends. Have faith. Do not confuse the strategy o

Re: Future of .NET

2013-08-22 Thread Scott Barnes
ite get Objective C in there, just Objective. Don’t know if > that means anything, of course! > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Cooney > *Sent:* Thursday, 22 August 2013 3:38 PM > *To:* ozDotNe

RE: Future of .NET

2013-08-22 Thread Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA)
The MS Team have released a pretty comprehensive White Paper talking about the role of .NET: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2013/07/16/responsible-for-a-million-dollar-software-project-but-don-t-know-where-to-start.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/net/nettechnologyguidance http://go.microsof