On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Joseph Cooney wrote:
> I've used TFS on and off since about 2006 (mostly because I was working at
> MS, as they are fond of TFS), but haven't used TFS 2010. It's biggest
> strength IMO is integration - requirements, work items, bugs, builds, source
> code and projec
argumentative? silky? GTFO! Most of my experience with DVCS has been with
mercurial (hg) which I've used for about the last 2 years for my personal
stuff. Before that I used SVN. I think the difference (from my point of
view) is that hg works well in a super-set of configurations to TFS/SVN. If
you
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Joseph Cooney wrote:
> argumentative? silky? GTFO!
:)
> Most of my experience with DVCS has been with
> mercurial (hg) which I've used for about the last 2 years for my personal
> stuff. Before that I used SVN. I think the difference (from my point of
> view) is
tem really fails once a patch gets a little old.
Paul
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Paul Stovell wrote:
> Hi Silky,
>
> I think in some ways you have to experience it - the proof is in the
> tasting. But here are some things I like about it that work even for small,
> local teams.
>
> 1. How many times did you make a small change, then delete
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Paul Stovell wrote:
> Hi Silky,
>
> I think in some ways you have to experience i
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Paul Stovell wrote:
> > > Broken how?
[...]
> In Mercurial it works different. You'd pull the 19 changes made to the trunk
> to your local repository - they'd be replayed, one-by-one, against your
> files. You'll still do the merges (leaving alone that Mercurial
Just adding my 2c:
I used to use Subversion and loved it - it did everything I wanted it to do.
One day I had some time on my hands and decided to try Mercurial, just to
see what it was like. I have never used Subversion since. 90% of my stuff is
single developer and local (when I'm on contract I
: Why DVCS, was Re: TFS Feedaback? Anyone moved away from it?
>> Broken how?
Let's say you decide to implement a new feature in a TFS branch. You branch
the trunk to FeatureX. Over the course of a week, you make 13 check-ins to
that branch. During this time, the rest of your team made
On 4 November 2010 12:43, silky wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Joseph Cooney
> wrote:
>> argumentative? silky? GTFO!
>
> :)
>
>
>> Most of my experience with DVCS has been with
>> mercurial (hg) which I've used for about the last 2 years for my personal
>> stuff. Before that I used SV
>> Yeah, this is what I thought. And I can't help but feel this is
>> totally overrated. I mean, I don't know a single person who would say
>> using SVN is slow.
>
> It is glacially slow when your repository is not local. There, a
> single person has said it. Look at minute/s to do something like
On 5 November 2010 08:37, mike smith wrote:
> > Yeah, this is what I thought. And I can't help but feel this is
> > totally overrated. I mean, I don't know a single person who would say
> > using SVN is slow.
>
> It is glacially slow when your repository is not local. There, a
> single person ha
e elegant model.
Paul
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On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:40
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On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Grant Molloy wrote:
> Putting the flavour of your DVCS aside for the moment...
>
> How "secure" do you feel having all your code, IP, etc, sitting on somebody
> elses servers ?
>
> If they shut up shop tomorrow, do you keep a local copy of everything too ??
> What
Hi Silky,
Wasn't directed directly at you, but at anyone who wants to provide an
answer...
Wow... $90 a month IS expensive.. but tax deductible !!
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:59 AM, silky wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Grant Molloy wrote:
> > Putting the flavour of your DVCS aside for
On 5 November 2010 09:55, David Connors wrote:
> On 5 November 2010 08:37, mike smith wrote:
>>
>> > Yeah, this is what I thought. And I can't help but feel this is
>> > totally overrated. I mean, I don't know a single person who would say
>> > using SVN is slow.
>>
>> It is glacially slow when y
On 5 November 2010 10:59, silky wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Grant Molloy wrote:
>> Putting the flavour of your DVCS aside for the moment...
>>
>> How "secure" do you feel having all your code, IP, etc, sitting on somebody
>> elses servers ?
>>
>> If they shut up shop tomorrow, do yo
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, mike smith wrote:
> On 5 November 2010 10:59, silky wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Grant Molloy wrote:
>>> Putting the flavour of your DVCS aside for the moment...
>>>
>>> How "secure" do you feel having all your code, IP, etc, sitting on somebody
>>>
I'm using svn again now after using git and hg for a few years (tfs was in
there too - i don't want to talk about that). I always liked svn and found
it adequate but don't anymore.
There's nothing a DVCS provides that you can't live without - just as 64Kb
of RAM was once perfectly adequate.
The
, November 05, 2010 11:19 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Why DVCS, was Re: TFS Feedaback? Anyone moved away from it?
I'm using svn again now after using git and hg for a few years (tfs was in
there too - i don't want to talk about that). I always liked svn and found it
adequate but don
–
> having everyone pull that down and all the history along with it, would not
> be fun.
>
>
>
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
> Behalf Of Mark Ryall
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:19 AM
> To: ozDotNet
> Su
Subject: Re: Why DVCS, was Re: TFS Feedaback? Anyone moved away from it?
There is a mercurial vide from 2006 where they say some folks have gb-sized
source trees. Mono use Git - which would be roughly the same size as a devdiv
branch (an assumption based on the fact that they deliver equivalent
Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:30 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Cc: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: Why DVCS, was Re: TFS Feedaback? Anyone moved away from it?
>
>
>
> There is a mercurial vide from 2006 where they say some folks have gb-sized
> sourc
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Joseph Cooney wrote:
> Yeah, tfs integration is very good. There is a dvcs that has integrated bug,
> work item tracking and wiki (called fossil) from the makers of sqlite. I
> haven't used it, but it will be interesting to see how long tfs retains this
> advantage
ember 2010 4:32 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: Why DVCS, was Re: TFS Feedaback? Anyone moved away from it?
How big are the databases that you are using? I'd imagine that there would be
huge savings in using a DVCS for small self-contained repositories, however,
there would be a given size where
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