Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-12-31 Thread laurelle williams
Sally, I could not agree more!!! Let's all work together as members, supporting ACMI, in pursuing exactly that. Laurelle -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-28 Thread Robyn Thompson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Jan you have put the case well.   To ripple the waters and move beyond the boundaries of constraint will bring fruitful change.   Midwives need to be strong, united and show real support for each other regardless of where they practice

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Jan Robinson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract On 27/11/02 10:35 PM, "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don’t think that we should have to run business to be considered to be a profession. The really important issues are around the regulation of midwifery

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Denise Hynd
    - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract You wrote:"if a midwife wants to change her orientation then perhaps a retraining could be of

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2002-11-27 Thread Denise Hynd
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract In a message dated 27/11/02 12:29:44 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway what I am getting at is there has been no

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2002-11-27 Thread Denise Hynd
, 2002 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I don’t think that we should have to run business to be considered to be a profession.   The really important issues are around the regulation of midwifery. I believe that midwifery should be regulated

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2002-11-27 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear debbie Congratulations to all Are you able to explain what this package is about??denise - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract In a

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2002-11-27 Thread Mary Murphy
You wrote:"if a midwife wants to change her orientation then perhaps a retraining could be offered?? However, this is the current system unless you go off and start your own practice."    The Community Mid Program in W.A have a Preceptoring program which employs a midwife for 8 Months and sh

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2002-11-27 Thread Sally Westbury
I don’t think that we should have to run business to be considered to be a profession.   The really important issues are around the regulation of midwifery. I believe that midwifery should be regulated by professional midwifery organizations. For example. If my husband, the electrician we

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2002-11-27 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
. Another name is syncophant. But we need role models. Ok I think I've said enough for the evening. I do think it is an authority issue.   That's all for now.   marilyn   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26,

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-26 Thread DebSlater
In a message dated 11/27/02 9:29:44 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought you/CMWA were in negotiation for a special "award" because MIPPS homebirth midwives whatever you class yourselves as - definitely have more responsibility skills to Birth Centre midwives (the sa

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2002-11-26 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 27/11/02 12:29:44 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway what I am getting at is there has been no political will to look at midwives differently, in terms of equity, midwifery as a profession deserving support and new solutions for recurrent problems (t

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-26 Thread Denise Hynd
e hand maiden status and mind set of midwives and women! What do others think?? Especially the Bmids?? Denise - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusCont

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract- Midicare!

2002-11-25 Thread DebSlater
In a message dated 11/26/02 7:11:05 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I understand to have copy right you just haveto state it So MIDICARE belongs to Australian midwives and others who recognise midwives true value to Australia's birthing women and their families! MIDICAR

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2002-11-25 Thread Lynne Staff
do the BMids on the list think ?? Denise - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > Yay Sally!!! This is precisely the valuing of midwifery s

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2002-11-25 Thread Mary Murphy
Denise Wrote "> Why not CONTRACT midwives to give continuity of care to healthy women?" That is how we midwives in W.A. and the Community Midwifery Program worked before the P.I. insurance failure. The only problem with contracting, is that all contractors HAVE to have P.I. insurance. That is wh

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract- Midicare!

2002-11-25 Thread Denise Hynd
MAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:16 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > Absolutely!! (In QLD there is a data collection package called Obicare) > That way, we can get a patent on a name which encapsulates the service!!! > > -Origina

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2002-11-25 Thread Denise Hynd
on the list think ?? Denise - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > Yay Sally!!! This is precisely the valuing of midwifery services tha

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2002-11-25 Thread Lynne Staff
what does that tell us? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sally Westbury Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I agree that birthing choice must be a freely (in

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2002-11-25 Thread Lynne Staff
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Dear Sally i would personally like that also But call it Midicare Denise - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:40 PM

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2002-11-24 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
I am probably missing something. regards. marilyn - Original Message - From: "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 3:56 PM Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > I agree that birthing choice must b

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2002-11-24 Thread Robyn Thompson
] Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I agree that birthing choice must be a freely (in both senses of the word) available for all women. GP's practice with a huge amount of autonomy. No-one dictates to them how they run their practice but they can if they choose bulk bill a

FW: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-24 Thread Sally Westbury
D] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I totally agree with what Pete has said probably because I too have a strong socialist heart. I do believe that different loca

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2002-11-24 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
aturday, 23 November 2002 10:30 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > > > Dear Pete, > That is the rub > With out PI it is precarious being in private practice with out government > support/employment!! > So the question of how this is don

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2002-11-24 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Sally i would personally like that also But call it Midicare Denise - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > My preferred op

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2002-11-24 Thread Sally Westbury
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Malavisi, Pete Sent: Sunday, 24 November 2002 2:27 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I am basically a socialist at heart, so I see Govt employed public system my future, even with all the con

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2002-11-23 Thread Malavisi, Pete
system is chosen. hope this makes sense, feel like I'm rambling a bit, yours in midwifery pete malavisi -Original Message- From: Denise Hynd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2002 10:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Dear

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2002-11-23 Thread Denise Hynd
x hours!!! - Original Message - From: Malavisi, Pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > I'm not too fussed whether it is salaried or contract but believe the > ser

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2002-11-23 Thread Malavisi, Pete
I'm not too fussed whether it is salaried or contract but believe the service has to provided by the government and those who want to work privately can continue to do so. I personally don't like dealing with the money side of things though obviously need an income. yours in midwifery pete malavis

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2002-11-22 Thread Denise Hynd
trying to entice this sector into hospitals. Denise - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > One interesting way of doing this is the w

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2002-11-22 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
uot;Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:56 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > Dear Ozmid list, > I would like some feedback,ideas /discussion about how supporters of NMAP > and others, see the pr

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2002-11-21 Thread Sally Westbury
One interesting way of doing this is the way the Northern Suburbs Midwifery Programme (s.a) does it. They are salaried to Community Health rather then to Hospital/Medicailized health department. I think this could be an important differentiation as community health is much more driven by primary he

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-21 Thread Denise Hynd
Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:18 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > Hi Denise > Just a few minutes before I go out to see a mother at home. Cut to the > Chase. In answer to your email. I don'

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2002-11-21 Thread Robyn Thompson
Of Denise Hynd Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Dear Ozmid list, I would like some feedback,ideas /discussion about how supporters of NMAP and others, see the prospect of MIPP's being contracted to government to pr

[ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-21 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Ozmid list, I would like some feedback,ideas /discussion about how supporters of NMAP and others, see the prospect of MIPP's being contracted to government to provide homebirth services compared to being salaried? Also should either or both of the above options be arranged, managed via the h