To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 8:53
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Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] CTG
We were actually
discussing this on my website and I was wondering, as were some others, what
the real figures are for infant seizures I have personally never heard of a
We were actually discussing this on my
website and I was wondering, as were some others, what the real figures are for
infant seizures – I have personally never heard of a woman around me who
has been through that. Does it happen often at all? I just want to reassure
them with some wise wor
ssage -
From:
Susan
Cudlipp
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:20
PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg
stuff
Choice is an interesting concept: if we
truly support choice then surely even 'bad' choices should be
res
ifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:20
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What is the JB website please?
Sue
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing"Edmund Burke
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So true Andrea.
Many years ago a woman consented to be admitted with a
transverse lie at term but rejected any treatment. She was a
mulipara. Many times over the next week the dangers were
explained (such explanation was well documented) and she
declined CS. Finally she consented and it was schedu
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Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuff
Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuffMy point here was that this woman DID have this
explained very carefully by a patient ob who did not want to induce her, and
still she wanted it done. And we see so often those who come
On the contrary, very well said.
-Original Message-
From: Andrea Robertson
This is a tricky area - "informed choice" is really a myth, as so many
vested interests come into play, but we must support women once they have
made a considered decision. To do less would be to undermine her furt
Hi Emily, Could you please email me off list? Re
your supervisor's request.
Regards, Lynne
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From:
Emily
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:49
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hi all i
One aspect of "choice" that needs to be considered is that even when
all the pros and cons are weighted carefully and a very "informed"
choice is made, there is no guarantee that the option chosen will
prove to be the best in the final analysis. Mistakes can still be
made and decisions thought
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuff
My point here was that this woman DID have this
explained very carefully by a patient ob who did not want to induce her, and
still she wanted it done. And we see so often those who come in time and
time again trying very hard to get induced - some women
d anyone, just playing Devil's
advocate :-)
Sue
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From:
Stephen &
Felicity
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 3:21
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"if
we truly support choice
Susan Cudlipp wrote:
Choice is an interesting concept: if we truly support choice then
surely even 'bad' choices should be respected?
Yeah see this is where a persons rights as a medical consumer gets
tricky. How do we define 'bad' choices whilst being
culturally/theologically/spiritu
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stuffhi all i have just finished the 'obstetrics'
term of my course and over the 9 weeks i repetitively b
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuff
From: Susan
Cudlipp
"The reply was 'I DONT CARE- I WANT TO BE INDUCED' How can the
ob refuse in this instance?"
In my experience, many women don't understand
that being induced can result in a very different birthing experience
wer
back in their hands, and not be afraid to get REAL. Political correctness
has no place in birth and nor does beauracracy.
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From:
Susan
Cudlipp
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:20
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Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuff
Dear Sue and all
What an amazing thread!!
Choice is the key. The choices that are respected and funded are those that prop up the medical monopoly of the big business of birth.
So all you wonderful midwives out there, start/keep saying it. There are no
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:26
AM Subject: Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg stuffI'd love a copy of that for the JB website, Emily, if you'd like to share and I'd love all your refs What you're describ
ct: Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg
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I'd love a copy of that for
the JB website, Emily, if you'd like to share and I'd love all your
refs
What you're describing in
terms of "maternal choice" really needs a feminist critique to allow us to
mana
y interventions! :-))
Sue
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From:
Emily
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:49
AM
Subject: Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] ctg
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hi all i have just finished the 'obstetrics' term of my
course and ove
I'd love a copy of that for
the JB website, Emily, if you'd like to share and I'd love all your
refs
What you're describing in
terms of "maternal choice" really needs a feminist critique to allow us to
manage those "choices" in ways which are not harmful to women. Since induction
and
is easier
to persuade the doc’s to intervene than to not interfere.
Amy
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Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 8:49
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
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hi all
i have just
hi all i have just finished the 'obstetrics' term of my course and over the 9 weeks i repetitively brought up my disgust with the use of CTGs against all the very high quality evidence that is out there against them, that noone refutes they just ignore. the wonderful obstetrician who was my s
From:
Lieve Huybrechts
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:11
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] CTG &
stillbirth
Hello
Michelle
Last week something
strange has happened. Two colleague midwives had a stillbirth at home. A very
norm
I think it shows one person's interpretation of
a CTG...
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From:
Michelle Windsor
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:39
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] CTG &
stillbirth
Hi Sadie
Hi Sadie, I guess the thing is that alot of people believe that a normal CTG (not in labour) is reassuring for fetal well being for the next 24 hours. Obviously this wasn't the case for this baby. You said about doing emergency C/S for unressuring trace only to have the baby come out scre
Hello Michelle
Last week something
strange has happened. Two colleague midwives had a stillbirth at home. A very
normal labour, half an hour second stage, good heartbeats. When the baby’s
head was born they saw meconium in the mouth (the water was clear when it broke
minutes before). Th
e and vice vera.
Very sad..
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From:
Sadie
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 5:38
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] CTG &
stillbirth
CTG's can only reveal what is happening at
that mome
CTG's can only reveal what is happening at that
moment and are subjective to interpretation. Often a CTG can look
positively awful, and yet after FBS the pH is fine - and how often have many of
us taken an emergency C/S to theatre because of a trace that was not reassuring
- to have a scream
h
it. Thanks heaps.
Veronica
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From:
Elissa and
David
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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:20
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] CTG
Inservice
There is a programme called CTG Tutor which you
may find useful .It can be downloaded
There is a programme called CTG Tutor which you may
find useful .It can be downloaded free at http://www.perinatal.org.uk/ctg/index_ctg.htm
Cheers,
David
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ljg
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