RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-28 Thread Robyn Thompson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Jan you have put the case well. To ripple the waters and move beyond the boundaries of constraint will bring fruitful change. Midwives need to be strong, united and show real support for each other regardless of where they practice (observe

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
id enough for the evening. I do think it is an authority issue. That's all for now. marilyn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract In a message date

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Sally Westbury
I dont think that we should have to run business to be considered to be a profession. The really important issues are around the regulation of midwifery. I believe that midwifery should be regulated by professional midwifery organizations. For example. If my husband, the electrician

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Mary Murphy
You wrote:"if a midwife wants to change her orientation then perhaps a retraining could be offered?? However, this is the current system unless you go off and start your own practice." The Community Mid Program in W.A have a Preceptoring program which employs a midwife for 8 Months and she

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear debbie Congratulations to all Are you able to explain what this package is about??denise - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Denise Hynd
, 2002 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I dont think that we should have to run business to be considered to be a profession. The really important issues are around the regulation of midwifery. I believe that midwifery should be regulated

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Denise Hynd
- Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract You wrote:"if a midwife wants to change her orientation then perhaps a retraining could be of

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-27 Thread Jan Robinson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract On 27/11/02 10:35 PM, Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think that we should have to run business to be considered to be a profession. The really important issues are around the regulation of midwifery. I believe that midwifery

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-26 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 27/11/02 12:29:44 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway what I am getting at is there has been no political will to look at midwives differently, in terms of equity, midwifery as a profession deserving support and new solutions for recurrent problems

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-26 Thread DebSlater
In a message dated 11/27/02 9:29:44 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought you/CMWA were in negotiation for a special "award" because MIPPS homebirth midwives whatever you class yourselves as - definitely have more responsibility skills to Birth Centre midwives (the

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-25 Thread Lynne Staff
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Dear Sally i would personally like that also But call it Midicare Denise - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery

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2002-11-25 Thread Lynne Staff
: Monday, 25 November 2002 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I totally agree with what Pete has said probably because I too have a strong socialist heart. I do believe that different localities can sort out with the women and midwives in their particular

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-25 Thread Denise Hynd
on the list think ?? Denise - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Yay Sally!!! This is precisely the valuing of midwifery services that we need - I

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract- Midicare!

2002-11-25 Thread Denise Hynd
: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:16 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Absolutely!! (In QLD there is a data collection package called Obicare) That way, we can get a patent on a name which encapsulates the service!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-25 Thread Mary Murphy
Denise Wrote Why not CONTRACT midwives to give continuity of care to healthy women? That is how we midwives in W.A. and the Community Midwifery Program worked before the P.I. insurance failure. The only problem with contracting, is that all contractors HAVE to have P.I. insurance. That is why

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-25 Thread Lynne Staff
do the BMids on the list think ?? Denise - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Yay Sally!!! This is precisely the valuing of midwifery services that we need

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract- Midicare!

2002-11-25 Thread DebSlater
In a message dated 11/26/02 7:11:05 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I understand to have copy right you just haveto state it So MIDICARE belongs to Australian midwives and others who recognise midwives true value to Australia's birthing women and their families!

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-24 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
in get A/bs and IOL after x hours!!! - Original Message - From: Malavisi, Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I'm not too fussed whether it is salaried or contract but believe

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-24 Thread Robyn Thompson
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I totally agree with what Pete has said probably because I too have a strong socialist heart

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-24 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I totally agree with what Pete has said probably because I too have a strong socialist heart. I do believe that different localities can sort out with the women and midwives in their particular area practice guidelines

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-23 Thread Malavisi, Pete
I'm not too fussed whether it is salaried or contract but believe the service has to provided by the government and those who want to work privately can continue to do so. I personally don't like dealing with the money side of things though obviously need an income. yours in midwifery pete

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-23 Thread Denise Hynd
x hours!!! - Original Message - From: Malavisi, Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I'm not too fussed whether it is salaried or contract but believe the service has to provided

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-23 Thread Malavisi, Pete
system is chosen. hope this makes sense, feel like I'm rambling a bit, yours in midwifery pete malavisi -Original Message- From: Denise Hynd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2002 10:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Dear Pete

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-22 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
I would go for either, salary based on # of women cared for per year or per month or contract, but I think there should be an upper limit on the number of women a midwife can take on. And, I hate to say this but maybe for those of us newly qualified (if we are eligible for positions??) there

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-22 Thread Denise Hynd
and trying to entice this sector into hospitals. Denise - Original Message - From: Sally Westbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract One interesting way of doing this is the way the Northern Suburbs

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-21 Thread Robyn Thompson
Hi Denise Just a few minutes before I go out to see a mother at home. Cut to the Chase. In answer to your email. I don't want to be contracted to anyone but the women who employ me. I have worked within a bureaucracy for years and I really don't want to return to where other people can have

Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-21 Thread Denise Hynd
Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:18 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract Hi Denise Just a few minutes before I go out to see a mother at home. Cut to the Chase. In answer to your email. I don't want to be contracted to anyone

RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract

2002-11-21 Thread Sally Westbury
One interesting way of doing this is the way the Northern Suburbs Midwifery Programme (s.a) does it. They are salaried to Community Health rather then to Hospital/Medicailized health department. I think this could be an important differentiation as community health is much more driven by primary