Re: [ozmidwifery] RE: Pregnant dolls

2003-02-12 Thread Veronica
Hi all, On the subject of dolls, when I was little my grandmother gave me twin newborn baby dolls , a boy and girl, from Germany (I think). They are made of a rubber material and are the same size and weight as a newborn and have umbilical cord like it has been cut so that you can see the ve

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie

2003-02-09 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Ah, I was wondering how the interview went. Goodonya, Aviva - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Hi Alesia, who makes the Steffi Love? I guess they havent got a PR

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie

2003-02-08 Thread VERONYKA CAMPBELL
in sight here. Veronyka - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Yes I have, but the cost was a deterrant to its purchase- too many books and cha

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie

2003-02-08 Thread Alesa Koziol
: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie Sorry Alesia I forgot - have you seen the Brazilian Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually gives birth, has a placenta and umbilical cord - and breasts with nipples!! - a bit more expensive

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie

2003-02-08 Thread Pinky McKay
Hi Alesia, who makes the Steffi Love? I guess they havent got a PR machine like Mattel's causing a stir. Its such a game isnt it - I did a radio interview on 3ak last week it was a hoot and lots of fun -I took Hello Baby By Jenni Overend and In Union as "props" to show and tell and talked abo

Re: [ozmidwifery] RE pregnant barbie

2003-02-08 Thread Pinky McKay
Sorry Alesia I forgot - have you seen the Brazilian Mama doll from Birth International? SHE actually gives birth, has a placenta and umbilical cord - and breasts with nipples!! - a bit more expensive than a Barbie. Pinky - Original Message - From: Alesa Koziol To: ozmid

Re: RE: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-07 Thread Anke Dalman
Hi Sally, Thank you for your note. Tell me more about the job, I might consider. Love Anke 2/6/2003 9:46:46 PM, "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anke, > >What we need is a midwife manager to continue to nurture the Community >Midwifery Program.. maybe you should come west!! > >Sall

Re: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-06 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice 2/6/2003 9:31:21 AM, Judy Giesaitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>Hi, Lieve, Judy, and othersYour prayer has been answered before you prayed. I am a dutch midwife and live in

RE: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-06 Thread Sally Westbury
Anke, What we need is a midwife manager to continue to nurture the Community Midwifery Program.. maybe you should come west!! Sally Westbury Homebirth Midwife "You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what yo

Re: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-06 Thread Anke Dalman
2/6/2003 9:31:21 AM, Judy Giesaitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, Lieve, Judy, and others Your prayer has been answered before you prayed. I am a dutch midwife and live in Australia for 22 years. All there years I had to fight for any recognition. All I heard from hospital based midwives and

Re: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice

2003-02-05 Thread Lois Wattis
Here, Here!!! Lois - Original Message - From: Judy Giesaitis To: Ozmidwifery (E-mail) Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:31 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re Dutch midwifery practice "We are seen as a separate profession with equal status to a GP or an obstetri

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long)

2003-02-05 Thread Denise Hynd
Title: Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long) Jo Your logic and objectivity as well as positive actions are to be commended. I trust you will get all the support and effective action you and all women need Denise - Original Message - From: Jo & Dean

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Reasons to avoid a "natural" birth

2003-02-04 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Justine: I think the problem is the managers and accountants don't believe it is achievable on a holden budget. I think perhaps it is due to us not reducing women to widgets (which I think is commendable). Somehow we have to break through the economic wall of silence. I think since NZ is doing it,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: FW: [Maternitycoalitonmidwives] Birth Matters Vol 7.1March 2003

2003-01-15 Thread Rita Deliverywoman
Hi Tina, I was extremely interested to read your reply, especially in relation to "doula's".  I am currently considering doing a Doula course, hopefully in Melbourne.  I have placed and sent a number of emails in relationship to increasing the awareness of doula's and what they do, but yet no one

RE: [ozmidwifery] re: Fellow midwife

2003-01-13 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
Dear Michael, I know a really great homebirth midwife in Brisbane who does Doula work. In fact she is going to be my birth support person. I don't know if she has any vacancies that month as I know she has a homebirth in March and then my birth in mid April but she lives in Logan too and it would

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: Fellow midwife

2003-01-12 Thread Anne Moore
hi michael, I am at logan, in birth suite, I may be able to assist if your wife is booked in here.. ph 33883994. regards anne.- Original Message - From: "Michael Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re: Fellow midwi

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: LOTUS BIRTHS

2003-01-09 Thread Marian Niddrie
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Looking for Sally Ann

2003-01-08 Thread Sally Westbury
Hi Leigh   I would be great to a a birth support group happening up your way.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The birth groups that Sally-Anne facilitated were fantastic. She was one of my main supports over East for me as seed of thought about a homebirth was often sewn by Sally-Anne.   Wond

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Vietnam Veteran Entertainers

2003-01-06 Thread Pinky McKay
Good one Aviva! Glad you contacted Caroline -she is a lovely young woman and from my experience, teh whole SBS crew are a hoot - the right sort of people to be doing something a bit 'subversive'. Pinky - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: Caroline Winnall ; [EMAIL

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Accupuncturist in Adelaide

2002-12-29 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Hi there, All,   This is really useful info as I'm in Adelaide too. Thanks, Tania. Lotsalove, Aviva - Original Message - From: Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Accupuncturist

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-17 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
esday, December 18, 2002 9:52 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Hi Megan,   Don't worry I am enjoying my pregnancy (even though I still vomit occassionally). I have been going to Active Birth Yoga classes and to the acupuncturist for antenatal visits (wh

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-17 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
  Cheers,   Cas. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Larry & MeganSent: Tuesday, 17 December 2002 4:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Well said Caroline. I

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-16 Thread Larry & Megan
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carolyn DonagheySent: Monday, 16 December 2002 11:00To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospitalHi CarolineHaving done exactly what you are preparing to do

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Rhonda
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 15, 2002 23:17:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital   Rhonda,   I can understand your frustration and pain at not getting the birth

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Carolyn Donaghey
al Message- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RobynThompson Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 7:58 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re:mothers rights in public hospital Thisis an

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread jireland
PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital I am new to this group as of today but wanted to comment on this thread. My second baby is due in April, I am VBAC and we are going to a private hospital in Brisbane (I can hear the gasps already : ) ). Anywa

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
t setting.   Thanks again for your feedback...   Cheers,   Cas.     -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RhondaSent: Sunday, 15 December 2002 9:21 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Rhonda
7;t know.   Thanks Rhonda.     ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 15, 2002 14:04:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Rhonda
    ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 15, 2002 21:05:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital   Rhonda, I ackno

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-15 Thread Sally Westbury
Rhonda,   I acknowledge your thoughts but what you are talking about is disempowerment.   What I am suggesting is that empowerment is the vital ingredient. I think we are both talking about the same thing from opposite sides of the mountain. The place of birth is not  important if the w

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Robyn Thompson
, especially in a private hospital. Robyn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital What a drastic

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Robyn Thompson
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital I know of a couple of hospitals that don't allow video taping of births.  This is just from women I know that have had their babies in these hospitals.  I wonder how many don't allow it.  I

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Robyn Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of AndreaQuanchiSent: Sunday, 15 December 2002 5:28 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital What a drastic generalisation to suggest that a woman cant have a

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Lynne Staff
e of the homebirths I have attended, and the dwellings I have been in as a result - from the most humble to mansions. It is what is going on inside that matters. - Original Message - From: "Andrea Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, De

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Holly Wright
issues to consider. Good-on-you for being so determined :o) Holly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wayne and Caroline McCullough Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in publi

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Andrea Quanchi
What a drastic generalisation to suggest that a woman cant have a good birth experience in a private hospital. I know the statistics support that the intervention rates are higher but I bet those at Selangor would argue that they have woman who have the births they want and I had one of my chil

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-14 Thread Jayne
I know of a couple of hospitals that don't allow video taping of births.  This is just from women I know that have had their babies in these hospitals.  I wonder how many don't allow it.  Interesting.   Jayne   -   Yes well laws! I can tell y

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-13 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
-- our birthrights. Keep on going, nurture yourselves. Band together. Aviva - Original Message - From: Margie Perkins To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Cas, Julie and all, yes, here's a gas

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-13 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
... : ). Cheers, Cas. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Margie Perkins Sent: Friday, 13 December 2002 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital Cas, Julie and all, yes, here&#x

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Margie Perkins
hildbirth and Parenting Educator > Transition into Parenthood > 9 Withybrook Pl > Sylvania NSW 2224 > T. (02) 9544 6441 > F (02) 9544 9257 > M. 0401 265 530 > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [ozmidwifery] re problems

2002-12-12 Thread Lynne Staff
No but those two emails came up with no text on my computer! Gremlins -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Judy GiesaitisSent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 9:47 AMTo: Ozmidwifery (E-mail)Subject: [ozmidwifery] re problems Is

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Julie Clarke
) 9544 9257 M. 0401 265 530 email [EMAIL PROTECTED]   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wayne and Caroline McCullough Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 11:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Rhonda
l Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 13, 2002 09:22:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital   Rhonda,   I am appalled at how they treated you. Isn'

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Debby M
procedures drop me a private email. Debby >From: "Wayne and Caroline McCullough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital >Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:03:05 +1000

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
ur message.   Cas. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RhondaSent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 11:47 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital  

Re: [ozmidwifery] re Birth Centre in the Illawarra NSW

2002-12-12 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Judy Are you still n the Illawarra There is a maternity coalition gropu pushing for more midwfery options including a community Midwfery scheme   They are holding a rally today In Mca Cabe park Denise - Original Message - From: Judy Giesaitis To: Ozmidwifery (E-mail)

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Rhonda
  HOPE ALL GOES WELL FOR YOU.   Regards Rhonda.   ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, December 12, 2002 23:19:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Wayne and Caroline McCullough
Behalf Of Robyn ThompsonSent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 7:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital This is an interesting topic and really good educational programme about rights and responsibilities would be good.   The word Polic

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: mothers rights in public hospital

2002-12-12 Thread Robyn Thompson
This is an interesting topic and really good educational programme about rights and responsibilities would be good.   The word Policy is often used in the hospital system as a means to take control of women and make the staff feel safe from possible litigation.   A Policy is not a legally b

RE: [ozmidwifery] re problems

2002-12-11 Thread Robyn Thompson
Blank Page from Denise at this end   Robyn -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Judy GiesaitisSent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:47 AMTo: Ozmidwifery (E-mail)Subject: [ozmidwifery] re problems Is anyone having problems

Re: [ozmidwifery] re VBAC brochures

2002-12-10 Thread Laraine Hood
Hi all, the reason I haven't been able to give you anymore info is that my client is away for the week.  I have left her a message to get back to me asap with a phone number, email address etc. Laraine - Original Message - From: Judy Giesaitis To: Ozmidwifery (E-mail) Se

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:

2002-12-10 Thread Jo Slamen
I would absolutely like to know where this is - as a Melbourne consumer of maternity services, just in case I'm ever in that situation - and to be able to help any mates who are threatened with the cut for breech (and have had 2 such mates so far). Jo Slamen - Original Message - From: "An

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: breech birth

2002-12-10 Thread Robyn Thompson
What a wonderful experience -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nicole and gareth Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: breech birth > To all mws and consumers I have just witnessed a com

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: breech birth

2002-12-10 Thread Debby M
aginal was any more risk to VBACs than cephalic presentation. As it turned out the baby was cephalic but it was nice to know I had the option.  This doctor is based in Townsville. Debby >From: "Jayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: breech birth

2002-12-10 Thread Jayne
They're usually cut up in Melbourne as well Nicole :( I recently heard from a woman about a doc who agreed and was hands off during her twins' vaginal birth. 2nd baby was breech. I think he is based in Kilmore and she had the babies at the Kilmore Hosp. Is there hope out there??! Jayne > > >

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: birthing

2002-12-09 Thread Rhonda
    " As we all know epidurals are wonderful for some women but in quite a few cases they have little effect and sometimes they are dangerous.Carol" I would have to say that shoving a needle into someones spine and injecting a substance into the

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: was birthing in dam water now labour pain

2002-12-08 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
"Rain is only rain; it is not bad weather. So also, pain is only pain, unless we resist it, when it becomes torment." Quoted from the I Ching in Janet and Arthur Balaskas's book, New Life. I use it in my Active Birthing and it's brilliant (see Alice's birth report) I loved my births (you must

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: Alice's birth

2002-12-05 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Thank you, Tania. I didn't know about it till I visited them yesterday (gorgeous babe was asleep) and Alice showed me the notice. I got all misty. Love, Aviva - Original Message - From: Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:44 PM Sub

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: seeking respondents

2002-12-04 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Yes, Alphia, that's fine. I'll leave it up to you and look forward to it, whenever it is.  Enjoy it all. Aviva - Original Message - From: Alphia Possamai To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:43 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: seeking respondents Hi Aviva,but I

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Robyn Thompson

2002-12-03 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
mpson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:43 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Robyn Thompson Rosemary Tell me more about it so understand what your needs are?   Robyn  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ros

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Robyn Thompson

2002-12-03 Thread Robyn Thompson
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Answer to Debby State/Fed Health Funding Rosemary Tell me more about it so understand what your needs are?   Robyn  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rosemary & Wayne WeckertSent: Wednesday, December 04,

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-12-03 Thread Robyn Thompson
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-12-03 Thread Denise Hynd
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-12-02 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
I like this one! aviva   I guess the problem is finding a gentleman! or a man who will be one.  LOL Rhonda ---Original Message---       ---   Checked by AVG anti-virus

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-12-01 Thread Barry MacGregor
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-12-01 Thread Pinky McKay
mm!!! Touche! Pinky - Original Message - From: Rhonda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies!   I guess the problem is finding a

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-12-01 Thread Rhonda
  I guess the problem is finding a gentleman! or a man who will be one.  LOL Rhonda ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, December 01, 2002 18:16:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subjec

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-30 Thread Jan Robinson
On 1/12/02 12:42 AM, "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jan and Robyn: I think your stories have captured the essence of children > and animals at birth beautifully. Where else but at home could the family > pets be there too. Imagine the birth suite if the family dog/cat/cockatoo > al

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-29 Thread Denise Hynd
] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise In a message dated 29/11/02 9:51:41 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reality is we will not get the profession together

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-29 Thread Robyn Thompson
Hey Jan This is what we can do for starters we are a good team. Lets write the stories that have been notable with children and animals. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jan Robinson Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 5:37 AM To: Robyn

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Children with birthing are innate

2002-11-29 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Jan and Robyn: I think your stories have captured the essence of children and animals at birth beautifully. Where else but at home could the family pets be there too. Imagine the birth suite if the family dog/cat/cockatoo also showed up with the two year old. Of course it would literally be a zoo i

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Excellent idea. I am all for it. marilyn - Original Message - From: Robyn Thompson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise OK This is my suggestion.  Long and har

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Robyn Thompson
f Of Sally WestburySent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 10:56 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise “as midwives we must stop declaring ourselves as victims of circumstance and become the architects of our own transformation”  Tina Pettigrew

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Robyn Thompson
worked in harmony to achieve your goals.  Congratulations.   Robyn www.melbmidwifery.com.au -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Debby MSent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:08 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina&#

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 29/11/02 9:51:41 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reality is we will not get the profession together as a whole I understand many NZ fought and are still not taking the opportunities of the changes there! As one who has been on state and national ACMI

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 28/11/02 9:11:56 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So to those of you who are brave enough to accept the responsibility in order to ensure your "mothers" have the best possible delivery I salute you, and to those who do not yet do this then please consider

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise

2002-11-28 Thread Denise Hynd
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise In a message dated 27/11/02 10:53:05 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear TinaHow wonderful and honest you are.  I think the most difficult

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2002-11-28 Thread Denise Hynd
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2002-11-28 Thread Sally Westbury
“as midwives we must stop declaring ourselves as victims of circumstance and become the architects of our own transformation”  Tina Pettigrew   I believe that this is the key for any hope in implementing NMAP.  Until we see how we could be as midwives, autonomous respected professionals,

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2002-11-28 Thread Debby M
From a consumer point of view - I was very fortuneate when I had my birth centre birth recently to have a midwife who had no qualms in accepting what I wanted for my delivery despite the fact that it was totally against a number of the hospital's standard policies for VBAC women.  I laboured witho

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-27 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Yes, I'd agree with that! could be bad enough for some adults! aviva   Mind you I think it can be confusing for children to be suddenly "dumped" with strangers at any major time of change without some preparation -it could be traumatic to a toddler to be popped in the care of complete strang

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2002-11-27 Thread Pinky McKay
confronted with a new sibling so really not appropriate except in emergencies Pinky - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

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2002-11-27 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Of course child care for staff too! Is this all so obvious nobody thought about it, or has it been thrown around and out?   Aviva - Original Message - From: Kirsten Blacker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children

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2002-11-27 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 27/11/02 10:53:05 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Tina How wonderful and honest you are.  I think the most difficult thing for midwives who work in this model is the inability to have autonomy as we know it because of perpetuation of a model using f

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2002-11-27 Thread Barry MacGregor
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2002-11-27 Thread Barry MacGregor
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2002-11-27 Thread Kirsten Blacker
dcare within the hospital - how about on site childcare for the STAFF to use? Kirsten   - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

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2002-11-27 Thread Robyn Thompson
Dear Tina How wonderful and honest you are.  I think the most difficult thing for midwives who work in this model is the inability to have autonomy as we know it because of perpetuation of a model using fear as the major component.  The biggest issue is really the education process.  Most o

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2002-11-27 Thread Tom, Tania and Sam Smallwood
it to the women seems logical to me!   Tania - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) What about the possibility of child care

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2002-11-27 Thread Rhonda
ayed to me after the birth of my daughter at 27weeks.   Regards Rhonda.     ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 01:19:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [o

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2002-11-27 Thread Rhonda
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)   What about the possibility of child care within the hospital? I can hear the screams of budget budget, etc. Yet it's not such a far-fetched idea. How many people need t

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2002-11-26 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
ll wandering around.   much love   marilyn- Original Message - From: Rhonda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:34 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) Sorry I was only quoting what she h

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2002-11-26 Thread rem & melissa bruijn
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Tina's response to Denise While some of the midwives seem to embrace the whole responsibility/accountability thingmany do not...and would rather be seen in the handmaiden role in preference to accepting full responsibility for their midwife role. TIna -

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2002-11-26 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
What about the possibility of child care within the hospital? I can hear the screams of budget budget, etc. Yet it's not such a far-fetched idea. How many people need to use hospitals and have to have their children looked after? Would it be a nightmare?   Aviva   ---   Checked by AVG anti-v

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2002-11-26 Thread Denise Hynd
eferable to have a support person for the children. > > In peace and joy > > Sally Westbury > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cheryl LHK > Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2002 5:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2002-11-26 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Robin Please can we talk?Denise Hynd 041 7932570 - Original Message - From: Robin Moon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)      " Ifeel that it would b

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2002-11-26 Thread Judy Giesaitis
  [Judy Giesaitis] Well said Robin  Judy  Original Message-From: Robin Moon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2002 6:35 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)      - Email has finally evolved

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2002-11-26 Thread Cheryl LHK
om: "Robin Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 06:34:52 +1100 " Ifeel that it would be the midwives responsibility to help the family in this sort

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2002-11-26 Thread Lynne Staff
He! He! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of RhondaSent: Wednesday, 27 November 2002 12:42 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births) Perhaps this is

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2002-11-26 Thread Robin Moon
get it wrong in the hospital system my arse is on the line.   Oh how I wish I was a homebirthing midwife. It seems a whole lot more manageable and satisfying.   Robin       - Original Message - From: Rhonda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:34

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