Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 Dec 2002 at 16:54, Feroze Kistan wrote: > Hi Rob, > So what is the generally accepted opinion? > In a studio setup, for my situtation, 90% > pack shots, and I'm just learning to shoot slides, > will a hand held meter be more accurate than > using the cameras meter? It really depends how you

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Rob Studdert
On 7 Dec 2002 at 22:46, T Rittenhouse wrote: > I still like mine. The Sekonic L308-B is a rather basic > flash/incident/reflected meter that is small, light, and simple to use. It > is reletively inexpensive. Several others on the list have posted favorable > comments on it in the past. I have had

Re: Build quality of lenses

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 09:42 PM, David A. Mann wrote: You mean the 100/2.8 Macro? I have one of those and its probably the best photographic item I ever bought. The front garden is now a feast of photographic opportunity. Cheers, - Dave The very same. :-) Dan Scott

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
I still like mine. The Sekonic L308-B is a rather basic flash/incident/reflected meter that is small, light, and simple to use. It is reletively inexpensive. Several others on the list have posted favorable comments on it in the past. I have had other Sekonics in the past, they all did what they we

Re: Build quality of lenses

2002-12-07 Thread David A. Mann
Dan Scott wrote: > I find that the equipment feeds my appreciation of my environment. I > thought I was pretty observant and continually got feedback from others > indicating the same, but I found I had missed out on a veritable feast of > visual delight before I acquired my FA 100/2.8 and started

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #58

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 07:38 AM, Marcel Laufer wrote: I'm new to the group. I try to have one 'bells and whistles' 35mm slr which I derive some (but limited) pleasure from. Then I have my medium format 645 pentax, and a variety of 'classic' 35's. I have been thinking of selling

Re: Maybe searching for a home

2002-12-07 Thread Ken Archer
Guess you would do anything to get out of Illinois this time of year. ;-) Ken Missouri native On Sunday 08 December 2002 03:24 am, William Kane wrote: >I'll come and help you pull the plug, but you have to promise to > let me use some of your lenses. -- Ken Archer Canine Photography San An

Belated PUG submission

2002-12-07 Thread David A. Mann
Hi all, I think I have my scanner up & running again. So, better late than never, here's my "Juxtaposition". http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/juxt.html Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Maybe searching for a home

2002-12-07 Thread William Kane
Ken, I'll come and help you pull the plug, but you have to promise to let me use some of your lenses. IL Bill Ken Archer wrote: It's too cold down here to sleep out in the dog house so I may be looking for a place to hang out for awhile when my wife finds out how much stuff I bought off eb

Re: Graywolf's Back

2002-12-07 Thread Doug Brewer
Glad to see you on the list again, buddy. At 5:01 PM -050012/6/02, T Rittenhouse wrote, or at least typed: >Anyway, I am glad to be back. > >Ciao, >Graywolf >http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com

Re: Interesting read

2002-12-07 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >I only use slide film when shooting for my own purposes. I used to bracket a fair bit but now seldom bracket. Sometimes when the scene is greater then film latitude I bracket in one direction by up to one stop from what I think would produce the

Re: Build quality of lenses

2002-12-07 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Yup. That's what I want. I am not there yet, since I am still learning, I am still naturally thinking about the camera a bit more than I would like.< that is something that comes with practice and trying to understand the reasons for your failure

Re: Interesting read

2002-12-07 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Always? Wow. Any other nature folks out there always bracket? Herb, is this +- a half, a third, or a whole stop? < because of the subjects i shoot and the lighting i like to shoot in, the bracketing for me usually is metered, metered -1/2, and

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Treena
Speaking of flash meters, I just purchased a set of studio lights and I'm searching for a flash meter. Has anyone used anything from the Sekonic line? They seem to be reasonably priced, but I don't want to trade price for decent quality if I can help it. > You don't need to spend a whack of money

Re: ZX-L cable release

2002-12-07 Thread Brad Dobo
In the MZ-S manual, two cable switches are listed, the CS-105 and the CS-130, the difference is length, the CS-105 is 0.5m and the CS-130 is 3m, there is no mention of a CS-205, so I don't know if it is the same as the MZ-S or not. Brad - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PR

Re: NO GUN TALK

2002-12-07 Thread Shaun Canning
None taken at all Mike. I apologize for inadvertently starting this little s*%t storm. I forget that people can be a little irrational about this stuff sometimes We're not quite as tied up in it as other places seem to be, and many of us just copped it on the chin, got on with our lives, an

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #58

2002-12-07 Thread Marcel Laufer
I'm new to the group. I try to have one 'bells and whistles' 35mm slr which I derive some (but limited) pleasure from. Then I have my medium format 645 pentax, and a variety of 'classic' 35's. I have been thinking of selling my minolata and it's four lenses and buying a pentax. I'm attracte

RE: ZX-L cable release

2002-12-07 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 09:23:38 +0800, Simon King wrote: > I don't own an MZ-S, but according to other PDMLs, Thanks for the update. All those x05 numbers have me confused. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Build quality of lenses

2002-12-07 Thread eactivist
In a message dated 12/6/2002 10:46:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > for me, the process is secondary so long as i get the results i want when i > want them and the equipment doesn't get in the way. the > equipment job is > to stay out of my way. > > Herb... Yup. That's

RE: ZX-L cable release

2002-12-07 Thread Simon King
Hi Doug, I don't own an MZ-S, but according to other PDMLs, On 23/08/02, Alan Chan said; Pentax specifically mentioned 205 is for MZ-L/6 while 105 & 305 are for MZ-S. I don't think they are interchangeable. And... On 23/08/02, Bill Owens said; Nope [not compatible], it's a female socket with three

RE: LiveJournal

2002-12-07 Thread David Chang-Sang
http://www.livejournal.com/users/true_nexus but.. be warned.. it's not all about photography :) Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LiveJournal This came up briefly i

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:12:20 -0600, William Robb wrote: > I don't know if the MZS has a PC socket. It does. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

RE: ZX-L cable release

2002-12-07 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 07:52:48 +0800, Simon King wrote: > I asked this question some time ago. The remote cable release for the > MZ-6/ZX-L is "Cable Switch CS-205" which has a different plug to the cable > switch F, indeed it's a brand new plug that's not compatible with any other > cable release. B

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Brad Dobo
Sticking to what I know, the MZ-S has a PC socket, but I've never used it :) Brad - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash > > - Original Messa

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 17:02:27 +, Cotty wrote: > >With an eclectic mixer, Dammit, WalMart ran out of eclectic mixers! They've got a load of electric ones, though. ;-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash > Hi William, > So the modelling lights are on all the time and > the lights only flashes when I release the shutter? > Is that what the little plug on the MZS is for? > Does it work well when yo

RE: ZX-L cable release

2002-12-07 Thread Simon King
Hi John, I asked this question some time ago. The remote cable release for the MZ-6/ZX-L is "Cable Switch CS-205" which has a different plug to the cable switch F, indeed it's a brand new plug that's not compatible with any other cable release. B&H sell them. I couldn't bring myself to spend that

Re: K35/3.5 K35/2 M35/2.8 (was: Who has switched...)

2002-12-07 Thread Andre Langevin
?Andre wrote <> Are you quite sure? Compared to a lens for Auto 110, yes it is big. But any other way.aw come on. Kind regards Peter No Peter, I'm not quite sure! As I answered to Dave... I wouldn't call it big, nor really slow. But I guess its a matter of interpretation. I am used to

Re: K35/3.5 K35/2 M35/2.8 (was: Who has switched...)

2002-12-07 Thread Jonathan Donald
I will second the comments Andre made concerning the K 35/3.5. It is one hell of a sharp lens with practically no flare at all. I have comtemplated replacing it with one of Pentax's f2 versions, but I can't really justify two 35's and I'm NOT getting rid of my K 35/3.5. It is the lightest of their

OT: Summing Up (Security Whining)

2002-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some of this is a little stale, and some is off-topic ... my intent here is not to restart the thread, but to do a little summing up. Not in the sense of trying to get the last word, but in the sense of answering questions and implied questions that I hadn't gotten around to answering, and filling

Re: K35/3.5 K35/2 M35/2.8 (was: Who has switched...)

2002-12-07 Thread Camdir
Andre wrote (B<> (B (BAre you quite sure? Compared to a lens for Auto 110, yes it is big. But any other (Bway.aw come on. (B (BKind regards (B (BPeter

Re: Re[10]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Feroze Kistan
Sorry Bruce - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:37 AM Subject: Re[10]: electra studio flash/ring flash > I think we are mixing emails. Brad did ask about playing with studio > lighting.

Re: Re[2]: Way OT: GNUS, GNUS, AND MORE GNUS

2002-12-07 Thread Jostein
This thread is getting SNUG! ;-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Bob Walkden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:30 PM Subject: Re[2]: Way OT: GNUS, GNUS, AND MORE GNUS > Hi, > > http://www.wooster.edu/ipo/Webpage%20Images/st

Re[10]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
I think we are mixing emails. Brad did ask about playing with studio lighting. Knowing that he already had 1 AF360, that is why I said what I did. In your case, I have already recommended the Alien Bees for real studio flashes. Otherwise, use any flashes that you have with Lumiquest softboxes o

Re[2]: Way OT: GNUS, GNUS, AND MORE GNUS

2002-12-07 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, http://www.wooster.edu/ipo/Webpage%20Images/studentphotos/FALL%202000/herd2.jpeg Saturday, December 7, 2002, 3:41:41 PM, you wrote: > Not OT: a picture of a large bun: > http://www.beyondthepath.com/news/news.html --- Bob "Our heads are round so that our thoughts can fly in any directi

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi Brad, check out this site www.photographytips.com, it gives quite a bit of info on setups and even a posing guide for males & females. Quite a bit of pages of info on just about every aspect of photography Feroze - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi William, So the modelling lights are on all the time and the lights only flashes when I release the shutter? Is that what the little plug on the MZS is for? Does it work well when you have 3 lights? Thanks Feroze - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL

Re: test

2002-12-07 Thread eactivist
In a message dated 12/7/2002 10:32:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > for reasons I don't understand, I was unsubscribed this > morning. now, I > hope I'm re-subscribed. Probably my unscription which didn't work. Doe aka Marnie I guess I can stop bitting my lips now. Go

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread Jostein
Abscholu'ly Cotthy. Hope you don't mind...:-) I still giggle when visualising the last part with "heating the pan and pouring the whole mess into the dishwasher". :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, Dece

Virtues of coatings Was: NO GUN TALK

2002-12-07 Thread Treena
Bob, if you would like to test the various colonoscopy setups from other optical manufacturers and report back on the efficacy of the various coatings, I'm sure the rest of us would find it very enlightening -- not to mention earning the respect and admiration of your peers for your dedication to r

Re: Wm & Brad

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Dan Scott Subject: Wm & Brad > I applaud both of you for your demonstration of civil behavior. We ARE Canadian. William Robb

Re: Maybe searching for a home

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 05:55 AM, Ken Archer wrote: They'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead fingers. ;-) -- Ken Archer Canine Photography Ok. Can I at least look at it when you get it? I'll let you hold my 77 for security. Dan Scott

Wm & Brad

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Scott
I applaud both of you for your demonstration of civil behavior. Dan Scott

Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why?

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 12:23 AM, Lon Williamson wrote: Simon King makes sense with his twelve points UNTIL: My name is Simon, and it's been 3 weeks since my last Pentax purchase... The 12 Steps (1 thru 10, yes, we've all been through that, but goldangit:) 11. Seek through photog

Re: Switching/Evolving to Pentax.

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 07:51 AM, Heiko Hamann wrote: Hi Jean-Baptiste, Welcome and congratulations to your choice of Pentax! That's one of the biggest advanteges of the Pentax system: you can use every Pentax lens on all Pentax bodies (afair there are only three bodies with restrict

Re: Maybe searching for a home

2002-12-07 Thread Ken Archer
They'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead fingers. ;-) On Saturday 07 December 2002 05:34 pm, Dan Scott wrote: > Cripes! That never occurred to me! I guess Ken could claim he's just > "holding" for a friend whose wife wouldn't understand (me, > preferably--especially for the 200/2.5). -- Ken

Re: ZX-L cable release

2002-12-07 Thread Brad Dobo
Oh, don't get me started!! ;-) I hope you have better luck that I with the cables. Brad - Original Message - From: "John Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: ZX-L cable release > I have a difficult time getting informatio

Re: Re[2]: Wide Portraits - Was Re[2]: Pentax digital SLR

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 05:03 PM, Cotty wrote: Cheers Bruce. I dare say the kid's mother wouldn't necessarily be pleased! ;-) Cot Just give'r a wink and a smile, and ask if she wouldn't like a copy of the one you shot of her. (and run like hell) You should see her. Gotta run fa

Re: Maybe searching for a home

2002-12-07 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 06:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, Now you know there are dangers in this approach. I recently sold a Sears 135/3.5 and a Kiron 28/2 on ebay. They were leftovers that came with Pentax gear and I was pleased with the sales, but... The danger is that t

Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUN

2002-12-07 Thread Steve Scott
I happen to be one of those gun owners (since pre-teens) and shot competition in HS. Expert in military small arms. Was an NRA member for a dozen or so years until I quit them in disgust after Reagan was shot and folks like G Gordon Liddy prodded his radio listeners to start whacking forest r

Re: Sigma/Tamron vote no confidence in Pentax?

2002-12-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Joseph wrote: > I was away all of November, so I am just now reading the December issue > of Shutterbug, including the report on Photokina. It appears that both > Tamron and Sigma are introducing several new and interesting lenses, > which are specifically not available in Pentax mount. Well, p

ZX-L cable release

2002-12-07 Thread John Gill
I have a difficult time getting information on the Pentax ZX-L camera. Even though it's been out awhile all I can find is the ZX-5n. Which cable release works with the ZX-L,the 205,F or both ? Also if anyone is using the ZX-L, how does it stack up against the 5n ? Thanks. Best, John -- _

Re: Interesting read

2002-12-07 Thread David S.
Lon Williamson wrote: > > Always? Wow. Any other nature folks out there always bracket? > Herb, is this +- a half, a third, or a whole stop? > > Herb Chong wrote, in part: > > > I always bracket my film > > at least 3 frames and so I only use slide film when shooting for my own purposes.

Re: Self censorship

2002-12-07 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: > May I gently and politely remind you that you are doing exactly > what you chastised Kieth for. Actually it was sarcasm. I only reminded the person in question that he should abide by his own rules. It is clearly contradictory to insist that one are free to post whatever one

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread Cotty
I know where that reshipe came frum. *hic* !!! >-Reminds me... Recently got a recipe for an English christmas cake >that looks pretty good. Haven't tried it yet, as I'm a little short on >one of the main ingredients... >Jostein > >English Christmas cake >-- > >1 cup butter

Re: another test

2002-12-07 Thread Jostein
Frank, You're able to post again. Hope you get two copies of this mail...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: another test > Seems I got subscribed to the digest (just got on

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread Arathi-Sridhar
nice recipe Jostein. I hope to try it sometime. But without the eggs (as some here at home wouldnt have it otherwise) -Sridhar > > Looks nice. > > -Reminds me... Recently got a recipe for an English christmas cake > that looks pretty good. Haven't tried it yet, as I'm a little short on > o

another test

2002-12-07 Thread frank theriault
Seems I got subscribed to the digest (just got one, and saw my previous test). I wanna be on the list. Just re-subscribed again. Let's see what happens. Is this a plot by the pro-gun lobby? -frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is tru

Sigma/Tamron vote no confidence in Pentax?

2002-12-07 Thread Joseph Tainter
I was away all of November, so I am just now reading the December issue of Shutterbug, including the report on Photokina. It appears that both Tamron and Sigma are introducing several new and interesting lenses, which are specifically not available in Pentax mount. Joe

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash > Hey, > > I'd love to try a studio setup. How much does *cheap* equipment cost? Or > rentals? It would be fun to do some work with friends and family and a bit > of still life, providing the cost

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
Yer translater program is broke down at the end, Jostein. HAR! William Robb - Original Message - From: Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS > > - Original Message - >

Re: flatbed scanners

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Albert Fekson Subject: Re: flatbed scanners > >>I have a 2450. Is that close?<< > > William, > > I would love to hear your opinion. Most flatbeds have problems scanning > negatives, Epson seems to have solved the problem. The reason I am > interested in Canon m

Re[8]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Bruce Dayton
Brad, Well, there's cheap as in inexpensive and cheap as in low quality. The cheapest way to do it is buy another AF360FGZ (I've done this) and two Lumiquest softboxes. Then start practicing with a 2 light setup. You can always use hotlights. You'll need a couple of reflectors (Home Depot) and

OT: contacting Alexander Krohe

2002-12-07 Thread Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes
Alexander, I've tried to wait patiently for your email address to pop back up so that I can contact you off-list... but I guess I'm just too anxious. If you'd be so kind, could you contact me off-list @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... It pertains to your 200mm SCMA* lens. Thanks in advance. - jerome

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This loks good, and very easy to make: > http://www.recipesource.com/main-dishes/sandwiches/03/rec0334.html Looks nice. -Reminds me... Recently got a recipe for an English christmas cake that looks pretty good. Haven't

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread T Rittenhouse
THIS IS NOT A BUN LIST! TAKE THIS CRAP OFF THE LIST IMMEDIATELY OR I AM GOING TO UNSUBSRIBE! (grin) Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:59 AM Subje

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash > Well this is the problem, I need to buy > studio lights. I like the idea of continuous > lights. It takes me ages to set up a shot > and if I could have the lights on most of the time > the com

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread Jostein
Wow! That was _big_. Nice newsletter too! Jostein - Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS > Not OT: a picture of a large bun: > > http://www.beyondthepa

Re: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jostein Subject: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS > > Care for a more friendly OT thread, anyone? This loks good, and very easy to make: http://www.recipesource.com/main-dishes/sandwiches/03/rec0334.ht ml William Robb

Re: Sorry

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Brooks Subject: Sorry > > I apologize for the reply to Frank,sorry the thread went cookoo and > i will be more vigilant in my replies from now on. Vigilant, Vigilante. What a difference one letter can make. William Robb

Re: Graywolf's Back

2002-12-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
T Rittenhouse wrote: > > As of today, I have internet access at the apartment in Boone. Great Tom. Welcome back. We missed you. Paul Stenquist

Self censorship

2002-12-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: NO GUN TALK > Right! The rabid anti-OT foilks should use their consitutional right to remain silent whereas the rabid OT folks should use their constitutional right to say whatever they want in whatever forum they want wihout any conside

RE: Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread Amita Guha
Not OT: a picture of a large bun: http://www.beyondthepath.com/news/news.html

Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUN

2002-12-07 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This is a camera/photography discussion list. Undisciplined, self absorbed, inconsiderate people who insist on introducing unrelated, inflammatory topics are no different than hoodlums that ransack a place. On any semi-normal, moderated list they are the ones who would be tossed off the list. Do y

test

2002-12-07 Thread frank theriault
for reasons I don't understand, I was unsubscribed this morning. now, I hope I'm re-subscribed. -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer

Way OT: BUNS, BUNS, AND MORE PUNS

2002-12-07 Thread Jostein
Care for a more friendly OT thread, anyone? Something not worth going ginger nuts about, I mean... Jostein

Re: NO GUN TALK

2002-12-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Bob wrote: > F*ck. The 12 or so actual OT posts were entirely without animosity. Now the > rabid anti OT folks, pushing the topic to beyond 40 posts so and climbing, > are flaming each other! > > I love it! Right! The rabid anti-OT foilks should use their consitutional right to remain silent

Re: NO GUN TALK

2002-12-07 Thread Bob Blakely
F*ck. The 12 or so actual OT posts were entirely without animosity. Now the rabid anti OT folks, pushing the topic to beyond 40 posts so and climbing, are flaming each other! I love it! My next post will detail my colonoscopy and the Pentax "probe" used by my doctor. A lively discussion (or dead

ESII and battery doors & instruction manuals

2002-12-07 Thread Rfsindg
The battery arrangement on the screwmount ESII seems odd. It looks like it takes 4 batteries and closes in an odd way. Can anyone enlighten me? I purchased a ESII without the battery door. Anybody have a spare or a source? How about a set of instructions? It was Sid's post form last month whic

Re: NO GUN TALK

2002-12-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Plönck! keith Pål Jensen wrote: > > Keith wrote: > > > Let's drop it ~ AND the irrational responses to any unpleasant subject > > that raises it's ugly head... > > Why don't you start living by your own words instead of posting ten mails with the >same nonsensical contents? > If you want thi

Re: NO GUN TALK

2002-12-07 Thread Pål Jensen
Keith wrote: > Let's drop it ~ AND the irrational responses to any unpleasant subject > that raises it's ugly head... Why don't you start living by your own words instead of posting ten mails with the same nonsensical contents? If you want this to go on forever your recipy so far has been fault

Re: Bare Arms-is ridiculously OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUN

2002-12-07 Thread Ed Matthew
Frank- The word is 'bear' arms. How can you properly hold a Pentax with bear arms? Of course, it wouldn't make any difference if you were using a Leica. Regards, Ed From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bare Arms-was: Way OT: GUN

Re: Switching/Evolving to Pentax.

2002-12-07 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Jean-Baptiste, on 07 Dec 02 you wrote in pentax.list: >Back to photography i'd like to get a Pentax camera before Christmas. Welcome and congratulations to your choice of Pentax! >e.g. RTS-III + 1,4/35 Zeiss = 2 kilos !). At first sight I didn't >really care about the brand but i really lik

Switching/Evolving to Pentax.

2002-12-07 Thread Jean-Baptiste Fargier
Hello, Back to photography i'd like to get a Pentax camera before Christmas. So far i've used(and still own) a Nikon F (1,4/50 2,8/135) and for 2 years a Contax RTS-III (Zeiss 1,4/35 1,4/50) but it has been stolen... I'd like to have an AF camera so that i could use a zoom painlessly (AF is f

Re: Maybe searching for a home

2002-12-07 Thread Rfsindg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You can always tell your wife you cleverly bought them for resale, > recognizing that they were temporarily undervalued due to seasonal > conditions. Sort of a wheeler dealer thing rather than a camera junkie > feeding a habit. Dan, Now you know there are danger

Re: Eastern US Winter Storm

2002-12-07 Thread frank theriault
Because, with food in your stomach, you can drink more beer. You know, the bread acts like a sponge... (at least that's what we told ourselves as teenagers - didn't stop us from getting drunk, though ) regards, frank Lon Williamson wrote: > Why on Earth would I dilute my beer with bread? > --

Re: Bare Arms-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUN

2002-12-07 Thread frank theriault
Gary, Please, no one wants you to do anything with your arms. If you prefer them "bare", it's your prerogative, however here in Canada right now, you'd get pretty cold, being currently -2 degrees celsius (hmmm... metric, another liberal plot? ). But, do keep them. Better to hold a camera tha

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Brad Dobo
That's a good idea. Although my lack of knowledge will become rapidly apparent :) Brad - Original Message - From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash > Hi Brad > If you

Sorry

2002-12-07 Thread David Brooks
Hi all. Just getting back on the computer this am and notice a bunch of gun threads which started by my reply to a thread by Knarf. The reply was meant as a tongue in cheek reply and I was by no means trying to be flippent or offensive to anyone.I have only read a few replies of the gun thread a

Re: Pentax digital SLR

2002-12-07 Thread Cotty
Thanks Lon, I'll take that as a compliment! >Cotty does tend to wade in, Wellingtons and all, where >angles and prissy boys fear to tread. grin. > >Cotty wrote: >> >> Proof that you can shoot a portrait with a 14mm lens (22mm effective): >> >> http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/portraits/images/pic2

Re: Graywolf's Back

2002-12-07 Thread David Brooks
Welcome back Tom.Good to see things are turning around for you. Dave Brooks Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail

Re: Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-07 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi Brad If you just gonna try it once or twice, rather rent some studio time. Lots of studios will even provide a bit of assistance in use of equipment as well. Feroze - Original Message - From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:14

Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-07 Thread Keith Whaley
You're still a voice of reason, Tom. Thanks for stepping in and being counted. We need some grownups around here, and peace-keepers. I'll support any and all such calming influences... Best, keith T Rittenhouse wrote: > > I'm not sure just what the framers' of the Bill of Rights meant by a "

Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUN

2002-12-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Thanks for your enlightening views, Pal. This list is polarizing quite nicely. Shame. Rationality is rapidly leaving the building... keith Pål Jensen wrote: > > Please take your idiocy elsewhere. This is a Pentax discuss forum and you are >insulting people world-wide with this garbage. My stan

Re: Words to work by

2002-12-07 Thread Cotty
>Powell's has it Thanks Mark, I'm onto it. (correct URL noted) Actually, chatting about books reminded me to place an order with Amazon for a couple last night: "Slightly Out of Focus (Modern Library)" Robert Capa; and "Paris, Mon Amour (Evergreen Series)" I bet the Capa is rivetting? and

Re: Enough!! - gone off list

2002-12-07 Thread Keith Whaley
What's your point, please? No, don't bother answering. That might possibly constitute rational discussion, and heaven's sake, we can't have THAT on this list, can we? Sorry 'bout that. keith Bob Rapp wrote: > > NRA this is NOT

Re: NO GUN TALK

2002-12-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Dr E D F Williams wrote: > > Guns and gun control are way, way, out of line on PDML. If I see another I'm > off. > > Don Okay, they are not a subject for discussion, but you're being irrational. Let's stay calm until this blows over, okay? Why should you suffer by absenting yourself from a lis

Re: Graywolf's Back

2002-12-07 Thread Kathy L
Welcome back, Tom! Kathy - Original Message - From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discussion Malling List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 5:01 PM Subject: Graywolf's Back > As of today, I have internet access at the apartment in Boone. Of course one

Re: Enough!! - gone off list

2002-12-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Your choice, Doe or Marnie. Be well, keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Me too. I'll check back later. > > Doe aka Marnie

Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUN

2002-12-07 Thread Keith Whaley
Let's stay calm, Vic. No need for vituperousness. As others have said or implied, there are apparently a number of list members with hot buttons. We're slowly learning who they are. I'll try to keep track, mentally, and avoid pushing any of them. I'm sorry I know about them, in fact... So, let's t

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