WTB - Battery Grip M

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Ewins
As the subject line says I am after a Battery Grip M in working condition, preferably not too beaten about. Contact me off list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you have one or know of one that might be for sale. AFAIK this was used with the MX, LX and K2DMD motordrives, maybe the KX as well. I think the

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] Pål Jensen wrote: And magnesium bodies. Olympus is squarely targeting the professional market according to the press releases. The camera is no beauty but it is far from bland. Far from bland? But it looks exactly like its ZLR models E10 and E20. I can't see

Re: OT: More Leica Lust

2003-03-04 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 1:50:03 AM, you wrote: On 3 Mar 2003 at 20:56, Bob Walkden wrote: that seems to be the one I was told about last year and reported to the list. My skepticism was obviously misplaced. A very desirable set of cameras. I think I still prefer the classic M6, that

Re: Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Th. Stach
The lenses should have the size of the Pentax 110 Pocket system, as this has also a factor of 2. So what is the advantage of 4/3? Hi, this point I don't understand: Where comes this factor 2 from? 4/3 means four thirds of an inch diagonal, right? But these are almost 34 millimeters, so

Re: 4/3 question

2003-03-04 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: What does 4/3 stand for? 4 thirds of an inch? Yes, but not what you think it refers to. It is not the diagonal of the sensor area as most people would think. It is actually a confusing system dating back to the standard sizes of TV camera tube. The

Re: Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Th. Stach
The lenses should have the size of the Pentax 110 Pocket system, as this has also a factor of 2. There comes another idea: Will anybody stuff an 1/2 CCD into my old auto 110? Nice little body, and lenses I have already. *g* Thomas

re:30-45mm dilema update

2003-03-04 Thread adphoto
going to stick with a vivitar 28mm f2 which cost me $10 Aus new in box and try and get a 24mm f2

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 4:28, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Thomas, Still, you get double the reach, not to mention that there's no such thing as a 35mm 600/2.8. you are almost right, as is Bruce R. in his posts. But imagine such a situation: Canon, Nikon or Pentax decide to produce special version

Re: Semi OT: huge lenses for Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 2:32, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather it seems to me after reading all the list traffic over the last few days that Pentaxians have a strange bordering on obsessive fixation about camera size and weight. If you think it won't be successful because it's not the

Re: Plastic lens mount on the FA J 18-35?

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 7:20, Artur Ledóchowski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That silver ring, however, together with the tulip lens hood, make this lens look quite pro-like, don't you think?:)) BTW, I've always thought that such hoods can be used only on IF lenses. The 18-35, however, isn't claimed to be

Re: Pentax digital future

2003-03-04 Thread Anthony Farr
Easy. The LCD overlay for the viewfinder that displays the active autofocus points could also carry APS frame lines that would only appear (or be highlighted) when the sensor switches to APS mode. Regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark

Time to delurk

2003-03-04 Thread Anthony Farr
Hi all, This is my first post since December, when I 'left the room' to get my monitor repaired. As it happened my '98 model 17in IBM was shorting out in its magnetic yoke and a repair was uneconomical, new monitors are so cheap. However I was rather PO'd as it was only a few months outside of

Re: OT: Cover shot

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 4:13, Rob Studdert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Team, Just reporting another PDMLer cover shot, one of my images made it on the cover of the Greek Lonely Planet Guide to Dublin, yes it's a little esoteric I know, but it was an national news paper insert and the print run was

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-04 Thread Anthony Farr
Pal, When you repeat an inside whisper of pending Pentax news I always take heed, because I have learned to trust your grapevine. As a market analyst I'm not so sure of your talents. It seems now that Pentax are doing something right you don't know how to receive the news. Don't forget the

Re: Nothing special with the Olydak 2.8/300 lens

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
if you look at the picture of the Oly 2.8/300, you can see that is has a filter diameter of 112mm. If you calculate the length, it will be around 250mm. So how do you make a 300/2.8 lens with a smaller front element diameter? You call it a 200mm 2.8 and put it on the front of a *ist D. g

Re: Preping for the *ist D

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
My question to you guys is this: If you are as optimistic as I, what are you planning on buying? Also, what size CF card's would be best? I'm figuring on having 2 or 3 CF cards to start with, but have no idea what size they should be. What size files should I expect from a 6.1 MP

Re: *IST INFO-HANDS ON

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
HE USES AN I-MAC SO HE'S PREPARED. Lol. Ipso facto. Quote of the day. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/

the ultimate digital potrait lens

2003-03-04 Thread adphoto
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2915155848category=12877 55x1.5=82.5mm 1.2 who cares if it is a little soft

Re: the ultimate digital potrait lens

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 11:58, adphoto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2915155848category=12877 55x1.5=82.5mm 1.2 who cares if it is a little soft I feel that for portraits it would be often desired for this lens to be soft. Interesting anyway. The same

Re: Second Time Lucky?

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good explanation of the *ist name, Mike. But you forgot sexist, pessimist, and bigamist g. Paul Mike Johnston wrote: http://www.imaging-resource.com/EVENTS/PMAS03/1046271605.html --Mike (And thanks again, Ken T.!)

Re: The LCD of the *istD can obvioulsy be used as a viewfinder

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diagnostician's version of Occam's razor: When you hear hoofbeats, don't think 'Zebra.' That's exactly why I fear that the ISO range will top out at 400: If it were higher, Pentax would have said so.

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Anthony wrote: Don't forget the lesson of the M-series of Pentaxes. They were a 'me too' product copying the Oly OM range and also selling against similar models from Nikon (EM), Canon (AE-1) and Minolta (I think it was the X-series). Pentax were not the innovator of this class but did very

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Vic wrote: I don't know why we are all so hung up on the pro market. I can take just as good pictures as any pro with my cameras... That is because in order to crac the slr market today you need the same credibility as the market leaders, and thats pro credibility. Or, alternatively, you

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Sylwester wrote: you are almost right, as is Bruce R. in his posts. But imagine such a situation: Canon, Nikon or Pentax decide to produce special version of their DSLR called Sports and Nature. They pack it with 4/3 CCD sensor so it got 2x multiplication factor. Now your FA* or EF L 300/2.8

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 13:04, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that this is equal to adding a perfect teleconverter to your lens with the associated reduction in quality. A lens has a certain resolution in line pr. mm. If you reduce the number of lines and then magnify the image to

Re: Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Rüdiger wrote: look at the 2.8/300. It has a filter size of 112mm like the a 35mm 2.8/300 and it is no smaller. The lenses should have the size of the Pentax 110 Pocket system, as this has also a factor of 2. So the diameter should be only 56 mm. The diameter would be 56mm if the Olympus lens

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Mar 2003 at 3:21, Lawrence Kwan wrote: Far from bland? But it looks exactly like its ZLR models E10 and E20. I can't see how you can win users in the professional market by making the camera looking like an amateurish/prosumer ZLR. It is not beautiful and it is not sexy, and it hardly

Re: 85/1.8 v. 85/2 for portrait - EX: Tradeoffs: old vs. new,

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
I wrote: Its diaphragm has something like 12 blades, for incredibly even lighting. Andre Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, what does a round aperture have to do with even lighting (over the frame?)? Quite a bit, I thought. I believe that Contax has always stated this in its T*-series

Where DLSRs will be bought (was: Re: More *ist D from PMA)

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
In the USA, many buyers shop for a digital camera in an electronics superstore like Best Buy-not in a camera store. If a DLSR gets under glass at those stores, it will greatly affect that brand's DLSR market share.

Why do digital zooms start so unwide?

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
On an SLR zoom, we expect the focal range at 28mm, even 24 mm. Yet on nearly every digicam, the zoom starts at an equivalent focal length of 35 to 38mm. Why so unwide? I think it's that, early on, the camera is specified to have a prescribed zoom ratio-say, 4:1-and the marketing people tell the

Idiosyncrasy (was: Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!)

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Pål wrote: The Limited lenses: more idiosyncratic than anything else! Well, don’t forget that 1990s Olympus “retro” point-and-shoot that was shaped like an old flashbulb and had an equally bizarre name. What was it again?

Is zoom quality better with a small frame size?

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Could a zoom lens designed for an APS-sized sensor have less distortion or vignetting than a zoom lens designed for full-frame 35mm? In other words, is it easier to design a no compromise 5:1 or 10:1 zoom for the smaller format? Would a hood, for example, be able to work well over a greater range

RE: Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Steve Desjardins wrote: It seems like Olympus did the obvious/safe thing and created an interchangeable lens version of the E-10/20. They must have made some other changes, because their E-10 literature claims that interchangeable lenses cannot ensure the proper lens-to-CCD distance within

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: Re: *ist D lens compatibility I honestly think that Pentax would be shooting themselves in the foot with a lens mount which is not backwards compatible. The *ist-D seems ideal for the current-Pentax-owning enthusiast, and most of those

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Anthony Farr Subject: Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World! BTW news of the *ist D is everywhere in photography e-zines and chat/email lists. Apart from the 'N C Appreciation Society' (aka photonet) I can't imagine where your impression of apathy comes

Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
Pål wrote: “In fact some Pentax users wait out the *ist D and when they see it they buy a Canon.” I could be wrong, but I suspect that most shoppers will try to read about the various DSLRs on the Web before buying. Most will find hands-on reviews that evaluate the cameras strictly in terms of

Re: Idiosyncrasy (was: Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!)

2003-03-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky Subject: Idiosyncrasy (was: Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!) Well, don't forget that 1990s Olympus retro point-and-shoot that was shaped like an old flashbulb and had an equally bizarre name. What was it again? Was that the

Re: Is zoom quality better with a small frame size?

2003-03-04 Thread Leonard Paris
It seemed to work that way for 8mm movie cameras. Len --- Could a zoom lens designed for an APS-sized sensor have less distortion or vignetting than a zoom lens designed for full-frame 35mm? In other words, is it easier to design a no compromise 5:1 or 10:1 zoom for the smaller format? Would a

Re: Now it's Rollei's turn (was: Re: OT: More Leica Lust)

2003-03-04 Thread Keith Whaley
OOooo! I'm really tempted, but have been counting on a new Optio-S, so it will have to go to some other high bidder... keith whaley Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3354item=2915311123; rd=1 If you have trouble copying and pasting the

Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?

2003-03-04 Thread Leonard Paris
I think you are right, Paul. I think that the worst possible thing that could happen to Pentax would be for all prospective Pentax buyers to find and read the PDML before they made their purchase. For a user's group, we seem to be pretty negative about Pentax's efforts. Len --- From: Paul

Re: Now it's Rollei's turn (was: Re: OT: More Leica Lust)

2003-03-04 Thread Keith Whaley
I'd postpone my Optio-S order for one, for sure! keith whaley Jim Apilado wrote: I would love a Pentax RF camera. Jim A. From: Paul Franklin Stregevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:47:46 -0500 To: 'Pentax-Discuss' [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: More Leica Lust

2003-03-04 Thread Evan Hanson
I'm afraid MP will wind up standing for 'maximum price.' Evan Bob Walkden wrote: It has all the M3 face furniture, which I like very much. Better than the squared-off levers. I have an M3 and and M4-2, so I have both styles of rewind knob, and I don't really have a preference from the

*ist AF sensors

2003-03-04 Thread KT Takeshita
Hi folks, Those who attended the Pentax road show reported that all AF sensors except outermost two of the middle row (5) is cross sensor, i.e., 9 cross sensors and 2 horizontal. Hard to believe but that's what they are reporting, alleged to be told by Pentax staff there and some checked it by

Re: Now it's Rollei's turn (was: Re: OT: More Leica Lust)

2003-03-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Mar 2003 at 4:59, Keith Whaley wrote: OOooo! I'm really tempted, but have been counting on a new Optio-S, so it will have to go to some other high bidder... keith whaley Paul Franklin Stregevsky wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3354item=2915311123;

Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?

2003-03-04 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 4, 2003 08:00 am, Leonard Paris wrote: I think you are right, Paul. I think that the worst possible thing that could happen to Pentax would be for all prospective Pentax buyers to find and read the PDML before they made their purchase. For a user's group, we seem to be pretty

Re: *ist AF sensors

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 14:12, KT Takeshita at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Those who attended the Pentax road show reported that all AF sensors except outermost two of the middle row (5) is cross sensor, i.e., 9 cross sensors and 2 horizontal. Hard to believe but that's what they are reporting,

Re: OT: More Leica Lust

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Johnston
I had thought MP might stand for 'Magnum Photos', but probably not. So what does the P stand for? Pretty? Professional? Primitive? Pretentious? Photojournalist. --Mike

Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?

2003-03-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Mar 2003 at 8:11, Nick Zentena wrote: On March 4, 2003 08:00 am, Leonard Paris wrote: I think you are right, Paul. I think that the worst possible thing that could happen to Pentax would be for all prospective Pentax buyers to find and read the PDML before they made their purchase.

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Johnston
That's why I say, that these lenses presented by Olympus aren't as small as they could be, taking in consideration, that they produce smaller circle of light. My guess is that these Olympus lenses will cover APS and probably 35mm as well. Olympus is hedging its bets. If it commits an entire

Re: *ist AF sensors

2003-03-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Mar 2003 at 14:16, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: on 04.03.03 14:12, KT Takeshita at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Those who attended the Pentax road show reported that all AF sensors except outermost two of the middle row (5) is cross sensor, i.e., 9 cross sensors and 2

OT: Canadian Help?

2003-03-04 Thread Rob Studdert
Hi Team, I have a slight problem, I have placed an order with a Canadian company in Ile Bizard, QC who have debited a credit card and supposedly shipped goods 6 Feb however they haven't arrived nor will the company return emails. I have a physical address and phone number and was wondering if

Re: Why do digital zooms start so unwide?

2003-03-04 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Pentax actually had one of the first PS cameras with a lens that started at 28mm. Now most makers have at least one model that starts at 28mm. Also, for a given aperture, a 28 is physically bigger than a 35. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On an SLR zoom, we expect the focal range at 28mm, even

Re: The LCD of the *istD can obvioulsy be used as a viewfinder

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Johnston
That's exactly why I fear that the ISO range will top out at 400: If it were higher, Pentax would have said so. It isn't determined yet. As I said elsewhere, don't read tea leaves...lots about this camera is not yet set in stone one way or the other. Wait for the production models. --Mike

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Mar 2003 at 7:22, Mike Johnston wrote: That's why I say, that these lenses presented by Olympus aren't as small as they could be, taking in consideration, that they produce smaller circle of light. My guess is that these Olympus lenses will cover APS and probably 35mm as well.

Re: *ist AF sensors

2003-03-04 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
The sensors work on horizontal and vertical lines. This is done by having 2 sensor arrays, at each sensor location, in a cross pattern. It makes it much more likely for the AF to focus on something. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does this mean for the AF illiterate?

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Johnston
I honestly think that Pentax would be shooting themselves in the foot with a lens mount which is not backwards compatible. They've already announced that it will be compatible. They even specified that it will be compatible with _screwmount_ lenses, which I got a real kick out of (the average

Brand names (WAS: Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?)

2003-03-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Paul wrote: I could be wrong, but I suspect that most shoppers will try to read about the various DSLRs on the Web before buying. Most will find hands-on reviews that evaluate the cameras strictly in terms of functions, value, ease of use, and accessories. Few will find PDML and other user

Re: WTB: A50/2.8 macro or A100/2.8 macro

2003-03-04 Thread Chris Brogden
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A50/2.8 is relatively plentiful. A100/2.8 Macro is about as rare as the K85/1.8, and will be quite pricey in any condition. That's what I was afraid of. I've not used the F100/2.8, but many compare it to the A100/2.8. It is also seen more often

Re: OT: Olympus OM77AF (Was: Olympus going pro)

2003-03-04 Thread Joe Wilensky
Thanks for the info! BTW, was the Olympus's built-in flash actually part of some kind of slide-on grip for the camera? I know it was located over on the side (above the grip?) And I think Pentax's SF1 was not only the first RTF flash on a 35mm SLR, but the first built-in TTL flash as well.

Re: DSLR market trends (WAS: Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?)

2003-03-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Henry wrote: Many people don't want to be associated with the cosmopolitan big brands like Canon or Nikon. This time, Pentax is targetting at the *-ist who want something to represent their individual status. That's what the name of the D-SLR intends to be. I agree, and thats why I

Re: Preping for the *ist D

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
with finger and thumb, but can be fiddly and needs two hands unless you glue the card dread to the deck! Also That should of course read: with finger and thumb, but can be fiddly and needs two hands unless you glue the card reader to the deck! Also Cot

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-04 Thread Chris Brogden
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Taz wrote: Why not just buy a Canon 10D with Canon lenses? If you have to start again buying lenses for a camera, why not buy lenses from a maker who's optical qualities you are familiar with, and you like? William Robb Everyone that I know of dealing with

Re: OT: Cover shot

2003-03-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nice shot. (Was it MF or digital?) ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Plastic lens mount on the FA J 18-35?

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
IF is not necessary, just a non rotating front is all that's needed. At 09:47 AM 3/4/2003 +0100, you wrote: on 04.03.03 7:20, Artur Ledóchowski at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That silver ring, however, together with the tulip lens hood, make this lens look quite pro-like, don't you think?:))

RE: Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
Yeah, but that was before they came out with one ;-). I'm sure thaey had to fix specific details, but I will bet that it will not be completely unreasonable to view this thing as an E-10/20 upgrade. Which isn't a bad thing. I have found the E-10 to be a nice camera, large and heavy but with

RE: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-04 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Taz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have to start again buying lenses for a camera, why not buy lenses from a maker who's optical qualities you are familiar with, and you like? William Robb Everyone that I know of dealing with Pentax says the

Re: Olympus OM77AF (Was: Olympus going pro)

2003-03-04 Thread Pål Jensen
Joe wrote: Why did the Olympus OM77AF flop? I've come across the original ads for it recently in Pop Photo when doing some Pentax research. It was a bit ungainly looking, but didn't it share Pentax (and Nikon's) vision of keeping manual-focus lenses useable on the AF bodies (with focus

Digital file sizes (on topic now, I presume?)

2003-03-04 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Cotty wrote: File sizes increase with ISO speed. I would have assumed that they would decrease with increase in speed. Bigger grain = less information. Is this a typo or have I (as usual) missed something? mike

Re: Plastic lens mount on the FA J 18-35?

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 17:08, Peter Alling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IF is not necessary, just a non rotating front is all that's needed. In fact, I have never seen zoom lens without rotating front and it wouldn't be IF. -- Best Regards Sylwek

Re: All Is Right In The Pentax World!

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
Well not quite. The MX was more or less a me-too product. It's specification was nearly Identical to the OM-1, with additions (Shutter speed/f-stop display in the finder etc). The ME's were innovative in that they were measurably smaller than any of the competition without manual shutter

Spotmatic at Work

2003-03-04 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
When I was looking in the shop at work for aluminum foil I found a Spotmatic F and some lenses; 50/1.4, 50/4 macro, 28/3.5 with metal hood, extension tubes. The lenses also had weird feedthroughs that looked like a screw mount version of open aperture metering. Whee! I asked around, none of it

Re: Digital file sizes (on topic now, I presume?)

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 17:36, mike wilson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File sizes increase with ISO speed. I would have assumed that they would decrease with increase in speed. Bigger grain = less information. Is this a typo or have I (as usual) missed something? No, more noise means more

Vs: OT: Leica Lust

2003-03-04 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Yeah, but why Ig? You can get the same experience with Voigtländer Bessa T and you get rangefinder as well. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL

Vs: Now it's Rollei's turn (was: Re: OT: More Leica Lust)

2003-03-04 Thread Raimo Korhonen
The Rollei has different viewfinder, frames for 40, 50 and 80 mm lenses. Different outer finish as well. Other than that it´s a Bessa R2 - at double the price. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä:

Vs: OT: More Leica Lust

2003-03-04 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Not this one - the original MP was professional, though. From the Leica list I remember it means Maximum Precision or something like that. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Mike Johnston [EMAIL

Re: OT: More Leica Lust

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
I had thought MP might stand for 'Magnum Photos', but probably not. So what does the P stand for? Pretty? Professional? Primitive? Pretentious? Photojournalist. --Mike Plutocrat! Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/

Re: Where DLSRs will be bought (was: Re: More *ist D from PMA)

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
I haven't seen any DSLR's in electronics stores. Digital PS yes DSLR's no. It would be nice but the e-geeks in such places don't know jack as a rule. Now if Pentax could get Radio Shack to sell them at least the sales force would learn about the Cameras. They might not sell any but they'd

Re: *ist AF sensors

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
Those who attended the Pentax road show reported that all AF sensors except outermost two of the middle row (5) is cross sensor, i.e., 9 cross sensors and 2 horizontal. Hard to believe but that's what they are reporting, alleged to be told by Pentax staff there and some checked it by

Re: Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
We've been there and I don't want to get into it. At 09:35 AM 3/4/2003 +0100, you wrote: The lenses should have the size of the Pentax 110 Pocket system, as this has also a factor of 2. There comes another idea: Will anybody stuff an 1/2 CCD into my old auto 110? Nice little body, and lenses

Re: *ist AF sensors

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
The sensors work on horizontal and vertical lines. This is done by having 2 sensor arrays, at each sensor location, in a cross pattern. It makes it much more likely for the AF to focus on something. Surely, much more likely for the AF to focus on the wrong thing? Cotty

RE: OT: More Leica Lust

2003-03-04 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I had thought MP might stand for 'Magnum Photos', but probably not. So what does the P stand for? Pretty? Professional? Primitive? Pretentious? Photojournalist. --Mike Plutocrat! Pay Up! tv

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
The *ist-D seems ideal for the current-Pentax-owning enthusiast, and most of those would be unlikely to purchase expensive new lenses just for the digicam. If you need to replace your lenses for a d'cam why would you replace them with Pentax ones? Why not just buy a Canon 10D with Canon

Re: Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
In other words they aren't taking advantage of the format, They're still selling 35mm lenses on a sub 35mm format. It's nice to have a longer lens but you can already do that with Nikon, Canon, and soon with Pentax. I thought it was all about smaller, lighter, (less expensive), kit for the

Re: Hello and thanks to Pentax for the *ist D

2003-03-04 Thread Cotty
(I am a Swabian guy - Swabians are even more economical than the Scottish) Just a minute. Is this possible? Hi Hans. Welcome to the list. Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK

RE: Olydak

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
Like the, in my opinion, infamous kodak claim the 6mp equals 35mm quality it's an advertising claim meant to sell a product, it the former case a photo CD in the latter a non-interchangeable lens digital camera. I draw my conclusions from that. At 07:40 AM 3/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: Steve

RE: Digital file sizes (on topic now, I presume?)

2003-03-04 Thread Rob Brigham
Jpg compression allows for greater savings in filesize if you have large expanses of continuous tone. More noise which is inherent with higher ISOs means that there is much less smooth continuous areas to compress. This is in VERY layman terms, but is how I understand it in my minds eye. A

Re: DSLR market trends (WAS: Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?)

2003-03-04 Thread alexanderkrohe
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:31:27 +0100 From: Pål Len wrote: For a user's group, we seem to be pretty negative about Pentax's efforts. I'm realistic about it. I do think the *ist D is a great camera when reading the specification list. The negative thing about is that it won't, in my

Pentax SF1 ad design (Was: Olympus going pro)

2003-03-04 Thread Joe Wilensky
Speaking of Pentax, the nicest (in my opinion) of the several SF1 ad designs appeared in the May 1987 issue. Fred Was that the one with the closeup of the built-in flash, with the shining white flash tube alongside the red focus-confirmation lamp? Or the one from a home-plate vantage point,

Re: Digital file sizes (on topic now, I presume?)

2003-03-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 04.03.03 17:36, mike wilson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File sizes increase with ISO speed. I would have assumed that they would decrease with increase in speed. Bigger grain = less information. Is this a typo or have I (as usual) missed

RE: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-04 Thread Nagaraj, Ramesh
Cotty wrote: With digital, camera choice takes over - the sensor and the electronics responsible for producing the image are much more important to [digital] photography than a light-tight box with film are to [film] photography. If you consider sensor as a replacement for film, yes,

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
Are you sure that it wasn't Olympus that joined Kodak? It seems Kodak's been genesis of all the dippy, err innovative film formats of the past 1/2 century. At 09:39 AM 3/4/2003 +0100, you wrote: on 04.03.03 4:28, tom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Thomas, Still, you get double the reach, not

Re: *ist D lens compatibility

2003-03-04 Thread Mark Roberts
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The older teles were very nice, and the newer ones that I've used are on par or better. And the Limiteds (wide, normal and tele) are in a class by themselves. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: *ist AF sensors

2003-03-04 Thread Keith Whaley
Henry Henry wrote: Dear all, It's so sad that one of the best AF system ever exist in a camera would not be supported by faster focusing motor on lenses. Come on Pentax, please release some ultrasonic lenses to match the 9 AF cross sensors on *ist/*ist-D!!! I still hope that

RE: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
Kodak doesn't make the chips in their own DSLR, I don't think this is likely. They probably own the intellectual property. At 09:12 AM 3/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll ask again: who else has signed on to produce

Re: OT: Olympus OM77AF (Was: Olympus going pro)

2003-03-04 Thread Thomas Heide Clausen
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:02:36 -0500 Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info! BTW, was the Olympus's built-in flash actually part of some kind of slide-on grip for the camera? I know it was located over on the side (above the grip?) Actually, you do have a point there.

Sexy Cameras?

2003-03-04 Thread Butch Black
Hi Guys; I've been reading the *-ist D threads and I am amused at the complaint that the new cameras are not sexy enough. While I enjoy the tactile feel of a well machined camera, like the old Spotmatics, sexy is not a term that I associate with cameras. However. In keeping with the lists

Re: Plastic lens mount on the FA J 18-35?

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Alling
That would depend on which way it was easiest and cheapest to build. You're probably right but we'll see in time. At 05:17 PM 3/4/2003 +0100, you wrote: on 04.03.03 17:08, Peter Alling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IF is not necessary, just a non rotating front is all that's needed. In fact, I

Re: Olympus going pro

2003-03-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.03.03 17:43, Peter Alling at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure that it wasn't Olympus that joined Kodak? It seems Kodak's been genesis of all the dippy, err innovative film formats of the past 1/2 century. Peter, you are right, I wrote it by means of speed fingers :-) I don't know

Re: How about a 600/2.8 or a 100-400/2.8-3,5?

2003-03-04 Thread Leonard Paris
Yeah, but if we want Pentax to continue in the business, we could consider being a bit more up=beat about their products. We seem to have an ability to spread negative information about new products before we know the facts. We look at a picture of a new camera and find ways to pick it apart

OT: Leica screwmount

2003-03-04 Thread japilado
A lot of great photographs were taken with the old Leicas. The users probably suffered a lot loading them. I wonder how many photographers use to auto loading P S's and SLR's could load an old K1000, Spotmatic, etc. Jim A.

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