Re: Quite OT: Bill Evans

2003-12-30 Thread Andre Langevin
Oh, I don't find the computer mindset so strange, after all we are all sitting here behind a keyboard. However only 0.1% of the population are serious photographers, and it seems like about 1/2 of that 0.1% are into Jazz. That has to be more than a coincidence. Through jazz you see things... An

Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Give up now! Get rid of all cameras. If you don't you run the serious risk of becoming enslaved to some aspect of the discipline: the equipment, the taking of pictures, processing of both kinds, and, last but no least [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.f

Re: [Fwd: FS: Rare Pentax enlarging lens]

2003-12-30 Thread Andre Langevin
I have two different models under the Durst Neonon label. I'm not sure both are made by Pentax but I guess so. I asked the seller for a pic. Andre Who know this lens ? Message d'origine Sujet: FS: Rare Pentax enlarging lens Date: 27 Dec 2003 13:33:45 GMT De: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Fwd: FS: Rare Pentax enlarging lens]

2003-12-30 Thread Andre Langevin
AAAh both very nice lenses especially the 50mm f2.8 el nikkor, it is almost apochromatic. William For Nikon, I know, I have a 4/50 enlarging lens and my brother a 2.8/50. But I never see (in France) a Pentax enlarging lens. Thank's Michel Pentax \ Neonon should be good also. They were sold wit

Re: a small feather in my cap - yes, I used a Pentax

2003-12-30 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Monday, Dec 29, 2003, at 23:43 Asia/Singapore, Ann Sanfedele wrote: After coming home from a miserable showing at a weekend long Scrabble tournament, (yeah, yeah, I had fun anyway:) ) ... I got an email from documentary film maker Eric Chaikin that 5 of my stills of Scrabble champs will be us

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread David Mann
Tom wrote: > > If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, > > what would it be? > > Don't drop your camera on pavement. I did that once. But the alternative would have been an RB67 hitting my foot, lens first. OTOH it would have taken less time for my foot to heal than

Re: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)

2003-12-30 Thread Leon Altoff
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:18:50 +1100, Anthony Farr wrote: >Back in the late 80s, Australia's intelligence service, ASIO, advertised >(yes! advertised) in the daily papers for photographers. Needing work at >the time I applied, and it was one of the strangest interviews I ever sat, >in a mirror wall

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Learn about light! Both in how to measure it and how to compose with it. Bruce Monday, December 29, 2003, 7:54:39 PM, you wrote: KW> If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, KW> what would it be? KW> I think I would say something like "try to see the image before yo

AW: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread keller.schaefer
o Try guessing aperture and speed before looking at the meter and a second one (sorry): o Throw away bad prints before someone can look over your shoulder, saying "Oh, can I have this one?" Sven -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag,

Re: 88 degree angle of view and f/3.5, was Re: Pentax AF 18.5/2.8 for SLR

2003-12-30 Thread Dag T
På 30. des. 2003 kl. 01.02 skrev Rob Studdert: On 29 Dec 2003 at 23:53, Dag T wrote: Sorry, I lost you there, you meant 12,5mm? No, 12.5mm FL lens on a 35mm frame provides a 120° DAOV or 110° HAOV. OK, but if a 22.5mm FF lens has an angle of view of 88mm (a didn´t remember those numbers), the FO

Re: Deleted all messages!

2003-12-30 Thread Cotty
On 29/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Greetings and post Christmas felicitations! > >I just came back from a 3 day trip to visit my grandkids, and when I >came back, I had 524 messages! >While I scanned them for really important messages, it was too much to >read, so I tossed them all out! >

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, >what would it be? For portraits, don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.u

Evening / night photography

2003-12-30 Thread Naomi van der Lippe
Good morning, good evening, good day all PUGgers I urgently need constructive and practical (what to do, when to do and how to do it) advice on evening / night time photography (in- and outdoors). I only had one successful shot in the dark (and it literally was a shot in the dark, which was displ

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, >what would it be? I already offered 'just one tip' so I won't offer anymore as it's outside the remit of the original question. However, I have a poster up on the side of one of our frid

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Move in close and fill the frame with your subject. On Dec 29, 2003, at 10:54 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote: If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, what would it be? I think I would say something like "try to see the image before you take it" or something like, always take e

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Bob W
Hi, >If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, >what would it be? Don't try to be a photographer. Just be someone who photographs the stuff you're interested in anyway. -- Cheers, Bob

Re: OT: frame rates

2003-12-30 Thread brooksdj
> > > > Not trying to start a discussion on frame rates. I was just amazed at the > > sound of the Nikon D2H at full burst: > > > > http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond2h/page6.asp > > > > scroll down. 40 frames in 5 seconds! They compare it to a Canon

Re: 88 degree angle of view and f/3.5, was Re: Pentax AF 18.5/2.8 for SLR

2003-12-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Dec 2003 at 10:39, Dag T wrote: > OK, but if a 22.5mm FF lens has an angle of view of 88mm (a didn´t > remember those numbers), the FOV factor of 1.5 of the *istD should > indicate that a new DA lens with this angle of view would be a 15mm. OK now I'm confused. If the diagonal angle of

Re: My first photography lessons

2003-12-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I'd be happy to, at some time, explain in detail one of the major failings of > relying on such meters for every exposure. Please? I can understand limitations of situations like fireworks (as you mentioned already) where the light changes *all* the t

Re: Dynamic Range

2003-12-30 Thread Herb Chong
definition from 2nd Edition, McGraw Hill Dictionary of Scientific and Technical Terms: "dynamic range (electrical engineering) - the ratio of the maximum signal level capacity of a system or component to its noise level, usually specified as decibels." capacity, not what happens during use. no time

Re: To bitmap or not to bitmap ...

2003-12-30 Thread Mark Cassino
At 04:12 PM 12/29/2003 +, you wrote: On 29/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I'd guess that the lab uses BMP because it is the native image for Windows, >and they probably figure that most of their customers are windows users and >can open BMP files. It's the lowest common denominator. With

Re: My first photography lessons

2003-12-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Do you have a camera with such a meter that you use? If so, we can go from there. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > I'd be happy to, at some time, explain in detail one of the major failings of > > relying on such meters for every exposure. > > Please

Re: A quick *ist D comment.

2003-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
"Butch Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Actually, I just saw a flyer for CVS (a drugstore chain) that has a new >> >Kodak machine for making prints from your CF card. $0.29, USD >> >> Most of the large chain drug stores around here have those machines now. >> I'll bet the chemical minilabs st

Re: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)

2003-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
"Anthony Farr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It occured to me that my failure to get the job at the initial interview, >and the ensuing period (of observation?) was in fact the normal procedure, >and I wasn't unsuccessful after all. > >Life could have been vey different for me. Yeah? And how ar

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Study your unsuccessful shots as carefully as your successful shots because you can learn from both. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: 88 degree angle of view and f/3.5, was Re: Pentax AF 18.5/2.8 for SLR

2003-12-30 Thread Dag T
På 30. des. 2003 kl. 14.13 skrev Rob Studdert: On 30 Dec 2003 at 10:39, Dag T wrote: OK, but if a 22.5mm FF lens has an angle of view of 88mm (a didn´t remember those numbers), the FOV factor of 1.5 of the *istD should indicate that a new DA lens with this angle of view would be a 15mm. OK now I'

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Read the manual of your camera/flash etc. once a year, take it with you for those moments where you have nothing better to do. On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 04:54, Kevin Waterson wrote: > If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, > what would it be? > > I think I would say somet

Re: [Minolta] Processing color negative film

2003-12-30 Thread Bob W
Hi, are you talking about b&w, colour, or both? B&W is pretty easy; I've never tried colour though. You need a processing tank and somewhere dark to load it with the film. You can buy or make a changing bag for this. Then you need some chemicals, a thermometer and a clock for processing the film.

*istD tally

2003-12-30 Thread Jostein
Since the *istD was released, I have tried to keep track of PDML'ers who have bought the camera. I have no idea if my list is complete, but so far it counts 55 names! Impressive, imo. Cheers, Jostein -

RE: Manual Lens on Pentax ist D

2003-12-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-- -Original Message- -- From: Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 1:30 PM -- -- Hi John, -- -- on 29 Dec 03 you wrote in pentax.list: -- -- -- >> Would it work in Av mode? -- -- >No. In Av mode the camera seems to shoot with the lens wide open, -- >no

RE: PUG themes and submissions

2003-12-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-- -Original Message- -- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 2:18 PM -- -- On 29/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: -- -- >Glad to see I am not forgotten when I disappear from the -- list for a little -- >bit:-) -- >Made me feel good to see that at leas

RE: Quite OT: Bill Evans

2003-12-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Frank, There is usually one laying about at GFMtn. If not, you could always pop it into the sound system of my car. Pretty good sound, considering it is in a car and is stock... I enjoy jazz myself, along with a multitude of other types of music. Though I must admit to being terrible in rememb

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Steve Desjardins
BTW, I'm helping a group of girl scouts get a photography badge this Friday. I've officially started assembling a list of these "tips". ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Manual Lens on Pentax ist D

2003-12-30 Thread Bill Owens
Cesar, What I like about the Gossen Digisix is the ability to clip it on the flash shoe. Kind of like the old clip ons in the days before in camera metering, except this one has the ability to do both incident and reflected metering. There's a newer model that also does flash metering. Bill --

Re: To bitmap or not to bitmap ...

2003-12-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >>On 29/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> >> >I'd guess that the lab uses BMP because it is the native image for Windows, >> >and they probably figure that most of their customers are windows users and >> >can open BMP files. It's the lowest common de

RE: Manual Lens on Pentax ist D

2003-12-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Bill, Thanks for the info. I may have to look at it at GFMtn. I used to carry around the Sekonic Studio Deluxe L-398M (from memory). Now I cart about the Sekonic L-358 Flash Meter (because it is a flash meter). So nice to be up to speed, César Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message---

Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Francis Alviar
I can't wait to get an *ist D. However I would like to ask everyone's opinion whether it's a good time to jump in now or wait for the next Pentax dSLR. Where do you see this going in the near future? Will Pentax release a higher resolution camera (8 or 9 MP) or just continue to update the *istD

Re: [Minolta] Processing color negative film

2003-12-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Dave, If/when I shoot film, I just have the lab process the film - no prints. They give me back a sleeved roll for the cost of US $2.50. The wait time for this is about 10-15 minutes. Then, like you, I scan and use a digital process for the rest. I would be curious to know what the cost p

Re: Manual Lens on Pentax ist D

2003-12-30 Thread Leonard Paris
In conjunction with the design and engineering folks who decided that it is too difficult to keep everything 100% backwards compatible and still add the new features we want. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Face it. Go out and buy old A lenses or wait for the newer lenses to come out

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Christian
Has there been an "official" announcement from Pentax stating that there will be future DSLRs? Do you want a DSLR now or can you wait years? It took 3 years I believe from the "announcement" of the MZ-D to the actual shipping of the *ist-D (two very different cameras). I LIKE Pentax cameras and

RE: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Amita Guha
I think Pop Photo just did a little piece on Pentax's upcoming offerings... > -Original Message- > From: Francis Alviar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:35 PM > To: Pentax Discuss List > Subject: Pentax's dSLR future? > > > I can't wait to get an *ist D.

Re: Manual Lens on Pentax ist D

2003-12-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Hi Cesar, > >on 30 Dec 03 you wrote in pentax.list: > >>What type of tape are you using? I just tried it with my K 50/1.2 and >>cellophane tape. It did not work. > > >Simple scotch (or Tesa) tape. I set the *istD to Av and if I stop down >the lens, th

Re: *istD tally

2003-12-30 Thread Tiger Moses
Is this list online? At 05:02 PM 12/30/2003 +0100, you wrote: Jostein a écrit: Since the *istD was released, I have tried to keep track of PDML'ers who have bought the camera. I have no idea if my list is complete, but so far it counts 55 names! And one more ! Michel

Re: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)

2003-12-30 Thread Bob W
Hi, > P.S. I also have a story of being mistaken for a doctor while another > friend, in med school at the time, was showing me around the hospital where > she was an intern... hmm. Doesn't sound suitable for family viewing. I'm reminded of the scene from one of the old British "Doctor ..." seri

RE: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Malcolm Smith
Francis Alviar wrote: > I can't wait to get an *ist D. However I would like to ask > everyone's opinion whether it's a good time to jump in now or > wait for the next Pentax dSLR. Where do you see this going > in the near future? Will Pentax release a higher resolution > camera (8 or 9 MP)

Re: OT: Best photography novel?

2003-12-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Actually, I'm not sure, but I love the movie, and it is about a photographer who uses his telephoto lens to spy on his neighbors. Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Dan Matyola wrote: > > > Rear Window? > > Was it a book first? > > ann -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley,

RE: Manual Lens on Pentax ist D

2003-12-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-- -Original Message- -- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:05 PM -- -- On 30/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: -- -- >Hi Cesar, -- > -- >on 30 Dec 03 you wrote in pentax.list: -- > -- >>What type of tape are you using? I just tried it with my

Re: OT: Best photography novel?

2003-12-30 Thread Bob W
Hi, I think it's from an original screenplay, not a novel. The relationship between the James Stewart and Grace Kelly characters is based on the relationship between Bob Capa and Ingrid Bergman. Great film. -- Cheers, Bob Tuesday, December 30, 2003, 6:31:16 PM, you wrote: > Actually, I'm not

yahoo weird

2003-12-30 Thread Dave Miers
Yahoo is being weirdI just got this message back from them that I sent to the list on the Dec 25th. I wondered about not seeing it, but I know that several on the list replied. So you guys got it but not me until now! Anyone else having this problem? - Original Message - From: "Dave M

medium format question partially OT

2003-12-30 Thread Tom Reese
I no longer trust my medium format Kowa equipment and it's time to make a change. I have to decide between Pentax 67 and Hasselblad. I like the leaf shutters on the Hasselblad because of the higher speed flash synch for daylight fill flash. Apparently, Pentax only has one leaf shutter lens in thei

RE: OT: Photographer-Spies (was: OT: Best photography novel?)

2003-12-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-- -Original Message- -- From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 1:02 PM -- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Hi, -- -- > P.S. I also have a story of being mistaken for a doctor -- while another -- > friend, in med school at the time, was showing me around -- th

Re: Dynamic Range

2003-12-30 Thread Bob Blakely
Herb, I am not in conflict with this term, nor am I saying you can't use it any way you want. There are some areas where one may generate some quiet chuckles from older folks if one uses the word "dynamic" where it's not appropriate, however. Toward the end of this post, I'll bring this back to ph

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread graywolf
Have the damn camera with you. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."

Re: Manual Lens on Pentax ist D

2003-12-30 Thread Bill Owens
Cesar, In the meantime, you can check out: http://www.bogenphoto.com/ The new one with flash metering is the DigiFlash. Bill - Original Message - From: "Cesar Matamoros II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: RE: Manual Lens o

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Jim Apilado
I am one who eagerly wanted to get the *istD only to be disappointed that it would not offer full compatibility with older K and M lenses as my PZ1-p does. I no longer think of myself as owning any new Pentax equipment. As long as film is around, I will continue to use my current film based Pent

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Bill Owens
At least the Pentax K and M lenses are usable, granted with restrictions, on the *ist D. This is more than can be said about 20-30 year old Canon lenses on their DSLR's Bill - Original Message - From: "Jim Apilado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30,

Re: medium format question partially OT

2003-12-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
To me the big difference is affordability. The Hassy glass and cameras are very expensive; the Pentax 6x7 glass and cameras are not. I use a 6x7 for portraits, fashion, and car photography. I've found that my one leaf shutteer lens, the 165/4 serves my needs. It's the right length for portraits

Re: Evening / night photography

2003-12-30 Thread Steve Jolly
http://home.earthlink.net/~kitathome/LunarLight/moonlight_gallery/technique/reciprocity.htm S Naomi van der Lippe wrote: Good morning, good evening, good day all PUGgers I urgently need constructive and practical (what to do, when to do and how to do it) advice on evening / night time photograph

Re: Dynamic Range

2003-12-30 Thread Herb Chong
i understand the signal is dynamic. the equipment's capabilities aren't. Herb - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Dynamic Range > This is consistant with every other area of engine

Re: Just curious ... Related questions

2003-12-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele
graywolf wrote: > Har! That would be telling. (grin) > > Related questions: > 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. annsan does > > 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? I just have to empty it out if I needed to use it - the enlarger and the tr

Re: OT: frame rates

2003-12-30 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Christian wrote: > > Again, please do not comment on frame rates. Please. Just marvel at the > technology and more to the point the sound! > > Christian Sorry - I have to say SOMETHING -- I thought your thread was going to be about the cost of getting your work framed! annsan (counting her mo

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Dec 2003 at 15:38, Bill Owens wrote: > At least the Pentax K and M lenses are usable, granted with restrictions, on the > *ist D. This is more than can be said about 20-30 year old Canon lenses on > their DSLR's I know we've been through it before but I find the lack of functionality using

Re: medium format question partially OT

2003-12-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Tom, I can only speak as a recent owner. I found that the handling of an eye level prism made for a fast handling system. I used the 90/2.8 leaf shutter (available used) and the 165/4 leaf shutter lenses quite a bit. They are quite usable, but probably just a bit more fiddly than the hass

Re: My first photography lessons

2003-12-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Do you have a camera with such a meter that you use? If so, we can go from there. Are you referring to CW metering? Yes, though it's my least preferred mode in the MZ-5n. I am also trying to use an ME Super at the mo :-) Kostas

Re: medium format question partially OT

2003-12-30 Thread brooksdj
> I no longer trust my medium format Kowa equipment and it's time to > make a change. I have to decide between Pentax 67 and Hasselblad. > > I like the leaf shutters on the Hasselblad because of the higher speed flash > synch for daylight > fill flash. App

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Jim Apilado wrote: > I am one who eagerly wanted to get the *istD only to be disappointed that it > would not offer full compatibility with older K and M lenses as my PZ1-p > does. I no longer think of myself as owning any new Pentax equipment. As > long as film is around,

Magnon lenses

2003-12-30 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
Hi, Does anyone have any insight into the Magnon brand? A 75-300 is coming my way as part of a bundle. The archive has nothing; neither does groups.google.com. Thanks (and all the best for 2004), Kostas

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, > what would it be? Always carry the camera (and use it!). Gianfranco = “To read is to travel without all the hassles of luggage.” ---Emilio Salgari (1863

Re: Magnon lenses

2003-12-30 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have any insight into the Magnon brand? A 75-300 is coming > my way as part of a bundle. The archive has nothing; neither does > groups.google.com. Hi Kostas, Could it be Maginon? I've never heard of a Magnon brand, but Maginon is a br

Re: Santa dropped by ...

2003-12-30 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
got a link to this guy? i just googled the name, and only got like Amazon.com etc for places to buy books about that breed of dog... tan. - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:07 AM Subject: RE: Sant

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Jeez tom, I'd never even thought of that, that opens a whole other can of worms... maybe i really should look into a monopod, cause that is just too scry... tan. - Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:41 AM S

Re: Santa dropped by ...

2003-12-30 Thread Bob W
Hi, search for William Wegman -- Cheers, Bob Tuesday, December 30, 2003, 11:30:09 PM, you wrote: > got a link to this guy? i just googled the name, and only got like > Amazon.com etc for places to buy books about that breed of dog... > tan.

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread graywolf
Ya, Rob. Pentax and Nikon have kicked their users in the shins. Canon on the other hand cut their users feet off. If you had had a bunch of FD lenses you would not have forgiven Canon yet. -- Rob Studdert wrote: On 30 Dec 2003 at 15:38, Bill Owens wrote: At least the Pentax K and M lenses are

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And didn't someone write that the Super Tak screw mount lenses were entirely workable when used stopped down to the working aperture? Bill Owens wrote: > At least the Pentax K and M lenses are usable, granted with restrictions, on > the *ist D. This is more than can be said about 20-30 year old

Re: COMPLETELY OT, but relevant to New Year's Eve...

2003-12-30 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
That sounds so cool tom! Make sure you get some pics of said birdcage... I will definitely be clubbing with #7 if I ever do get up your way, I'm not too "old", hehe... Every year since we were together, with the exception of 2000, (I was pregnant for our very first New Year's Eve together!), Rust

RE: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Butch Black
If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, > what would it be? Think. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Wow! Back in the late sixties, when I was hanging out with a lot of photogs, the general consensus was ONE keeper from a roll of 36. Maybe we were looking for different things then, hard to say. Looking at the contact sheets of some great and current photogs, as well as some from the fifties and

Re: Dynamic Range

2003-12-30 Thread Herb Chong
but that doesn't stop it from being called dynamic range because variation across space is also a variation. the sensor is exposed all at once and for the same amount of time. Herb - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, Dece

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread graywolf
Well, Tanya, back when Canon went to autofocus, they intoduced a completely new mount. The new lenses would not fit on the old cameras, and the old lenses would not fit on the new cameras. Note that is NOT FIT, not NOT WORK IN ALL MODES. So the Canon SLR, maybe an F1N you had bought the previos

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Dec 2003 at 19:00, graywolf wrote: > Ya, Rob. Pentax and Nikon have kicked their users in the shins. Canon on the > other hand cut their users feet off. If you had had a bunch of FD lenses you > would not have forgiven Canon yet. At least they were up front, I could deal with that, same as

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Bill Owens
Yes. - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 7:09 PM Subject: Re: Pentax's dSLR future? > And didn't someone write that the Super Tak screw mount lenses were entirely > workable when used stopped down to th

Re: Santa dropped by ...

2003-12-30 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Bob said: "search for William Wegman" Thanks Bob! OH, MY GAWD that guy is the DEFINITION of commercialism, he even has dog t-shirts! (there is one with the dog in a "lolita" pose, supposedly "sexy" - SCARY STUFF!) - *eek* - not my thing AT ALL, but hey, I'll bet he's laughing all the way to

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread cbwaters
I hate to put my foot into this ring since I never had any of the old lenses but... Rob typed this: "Pentax have removed lens aperture rings, disabled > aperture ring operation on bodies etc and this is just over a year after the > last limited lens hit the shelves and not so long after we were t

Re: COMPLETELY OT, but relevant to New Year's Eve...

2003-12-30 Thread Bill Owens
I once had a manager that refused to go partying on New Year's Eve. She called it "amateur night". We'll be bringing in the new year at a friends home. New Year's day dinner will be ham hocks and black eyed peas, boiled cabbage and cornbread. Bill

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Dec 2003 at 19:18, graywolf wrote: > Now, Robb, and others, are pissed at Pentax because they do not get full > compatability with lenses that Pentax has not sold for over 20 years when using > them on the new cameras. Make that 2 years. The funny thing is that I suspect the reasoning sur

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Dec 2003 at 19:24, Bill Owens wrote: > Yes. LOL The *ist D is actually more compatible with old screw lenses than K and M lenses. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user s

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow! Back in the late sixties, when I was hanging out with a lot of photogs, > the general consensus was ONE keeper from a roll of 36. I still go with that, sometimes 2 per roll if its a good day. For me, a roll of 36 is

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you could impart just one tip to someone regarding photography, > what would it be? Just thought I would pop this in Bracket! Kevin -- __ (_ \ _

screw mount lens

2003-12-30 Thread Larry Hodgson
Shel wrote: >And didn't someone write that the Super Tak screw mount lenses were entirely >workable when used stopped down to the working aperture? Yes, they are. I have an ist D and use them all the time. Again, set manual focus, Aperture Priority, stop the lens down and shoot away. Works great.

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Cotty
On 30/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >At least the Pentax K and M lenses are usable, granted with restrictions, on >the *ist D. This is more than can be said about 20-30 year old Canon lenses >on their DSLR's With the greatest of respect Uncle Bill, a while back when Canon dumped on their o

RE: A quick *ist D comment.

2003-12-30 Thread Butch Black
- Original Message - From: "Butch Black" Subject: Re: A quick *ist D comment. > > The Fuji Print pix we have is a dry system. No chemicals nor water like the > Fuji Aladdin. It uses a special paper and UV light to create the image. It > has about the color range of a dye-sub print i.e.

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread graywolf
Knarf, Quit yer bitching . You should try getting 4x5 B&W developed in Charlotte. $5 a negative, and they grossly under develop them for you. And here in Boone you can not have them done for love nor money. On the other hand, I have finally (today) light-proofed my bathroom and set up the dark

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Dec 2003 at 19:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Now, I must ask, did Pentax ever SAY they were going to continue to do what > they'd been doing? Did they ever say they'd keep the A rings or continue to > fully support the K&M lenses? I know it seems like they had a good thing going > with the

OT- Strike Rate (was Re: Just one tip)

2003-12-30 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Yeah, but Shel, I am mainly referring to when shooting weddings etc, where you need to punch out a high volume of usable prints per roll. Having only a couple of shots per roll that you "keep" from a wedding is just not feasible. If referring to portraits etc, I would say that the average is high

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
I have to ask, maybe naively, BUT, what is the big deal about the aperture ring? Exactly what does it "add" to in regards to camera function, or more to the point, what does it take away when it isn't availalble? Is it only really a problem for those trying to use newer lenses with older bodies?

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Jim Apilado
No, I'm not dumping them all. I intend to keep all the lenses and use them on my film Pentaxes. These are great lenses. Jim A. > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:43:07 + (GMT) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pent

Re: Just one tip

2003-12-30 Thread graywolf
You were thinking of works of art, Tanya is thinking of salable pictures. There is a big difference. Any pro who does not get a salable picture with every shot except where the subject did something the photographer has no control over is not very competent. -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Wow! Bac

Re: COMPLETELY OT, but relevant to New Year's Eve...

2003-12-30 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
lol! that's funny Bill! I am the same with our annual Melbourne Cup horse race. They say it is "the race that stops a nation". And everyone who is anyone bets on it - except me! I think it is just crazy to bet on such a race, with almost no chance of winning when almost all of the horses are as

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Bill Owens
I have no doubt you are correct. I'm only saying that Pentax didn't totally change their mount and that they are more compatible with their older lenses than Canon. According to my Pentax rep, FWIW, there was a technical reason for dropping the aperture coupler. Bill - Original Message

Re: Pentax's dSLR future?

2003-12-30 Thread Bill Owens
It's those wanting to use new lenses on old bodies. Actually, when using a zoom without a constant aperture value, using the aperture ring is a real pain since the aperture changes as you zoom. Bill - Original Message - From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PRO

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