Re: Film vs Digital

2004-07-23 Thread graywolf
Rob's right, but it goes way beyond that. Actually the major falsity of the local camera store is the idea that you can actually get all that great information there. While some of the salespeople actually are photographers, most are just like sales jerks, sorry, clerks (I used to be one) every

RE: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jul 2004 at 23:03, Butch Black wrote: > When Canon started dabbling with CMOS chips, they were considered inferior > to CCD's in image quality but less expensive to manufacture. What Canon did > right, IMHO, was to continue to develop the CMOS chip. That they are the only > camera company ma

RE: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Butch Black
Jens wrote: I just talked to a Canon guy on the phone. He said that the reason Canon is ruling the world of digital photography at the moment is, that they stuck to CMOS while everybody else left it for CCD's. I'm not an electronics engineer, so what do guys think? When Canon started dabbling wit

Re: OT: Tans prattling again (RE: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film)

2004-07-23 Thread Butch Black
I've got know, what is a tittynope? Opposite of Dolly Parton? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California No. It is an adjective describing a few of the women I have dated in my life. Butch

Re: My first wedding shoot.

2004-07-23 Thread Butch Black
That's what I'm doing next weekend in Guadalajara at my friends wedding. They have the wedding photog for the formals, then I'm being turned loose with B&W to shoot whatever the hell I want toshould be fun. Norm (who says Tequila and B&W don't mix?) Just remember Norm; One tequila two tequi

Re: Film vs Digital

2004-07-23 Thread Herb Chong
for many photo things, it's a lot more than a few cents difference. it's frequently 15-20% higher prices. that's assuming that they have anything that i can look at. the town i live in is amll, yet supports two camera stores. they are surviving, but not because of photofinishing or camera sales. th

Re: Film vs Digital

2004-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jul 2004 at 18:57, Jerry Todd wrote: > That's because consumers want to shop for the lowest price at any cost to > the community. Unless one supports local businesses, those businesses will > disappear. Have you ever noticed the number of people who complain about the > demise of their loc

Re: OT: Tans prattling again (RE: not particularly Re: Digital vs

2004-07-23 Thread John Francis
It was a throwaway reference, recognised by at least one other list member :-) > I have a rather large passive vocabulary, but you guys do seem to be able to add > to it. Pesiflage seems to be a good discription of what goes on on this list. > Maybe we should change the name to PPML (grin). >

Re: Film vs Digital

2004-07-23 Thread Jerry Todd
That's because consumers want to shop for the lowest price at any cost to the community. Unless one supports local businesses, those businesses will disappear. Have you ever noticed the number of people who complain about the demise of their local (hardware, photo, stationery, drug) store, but co

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Alan Chan
I think that's partially true, as they were unable to satisfy the huge demand for their DSLRs not long ago. They saw it coming, but it was coming much faster than they expected once they had made the move. But I think it is also true that if Canon did not make the move so quickly and so aggress

Re: OT: dirty sounding words-was: Tans prattling again

2004-07-23 Thread Dr. Shaun Canning
* psychoprophylaxis *One of my favourites Stephen Moore wrote: frank theriault wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: The Speculum. Sounds like an arena to me. A couple of my favorites are "salubrious," which sounds bad (viz. "salacious") but means, roughly, "good for you." Another is "m

Re: SMC K 55mm 1.8

2004-07-23 Thread John Forbes
Is it optically identical to the 42mm SMC Takumar? John On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:10:31 -0400, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Only relative to the very best lenses ever made. Relative to the rest it is merely fabulous. In all seriousness, it has a very good reputation. -- Thibouille wrote: Any

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jul 2004 at 21:23, Herb Chong wrote: > Thumbs Plus doesn't show them right anyway, so i have to open in Photoshop. > thus, no benefit. I'd check your settings, I have no such problems with mine. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jul 2004 at 0:00, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Also how many are setting custom white balance and not using the presets? What's > your process when you set the white balance? The pre-sets are quite good, if you are used to shooting daylight film and adding warming (shade/cloudy)/cooling (tungst

Re: using C1 DSLR

2004-07-23 Thread Herb Chong
if i adjust it to look right previewing PEF files, everything else looks wrong. that means it's broken as far as i am concerned. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: using C1 DSLR >

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread Herb Chong
Thumbs Plus doesn't show them right anyway, so i have to open in Photoshop. thus, no benefit. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:02 PM Subject: Re: *istD settings > Well they are the values that wil

Re: I'm off for the weekend!

2004-07-23 Thread Mark Roberts
John Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm headed out to the wilds of deepest Ohio to shoot >> the AMA Superbike >> races this weekend! I'll be working for >> Superbikeplanet.com and my shots > >Mark, > >Too bad you have to play (oops, I mean work) o

Re: using C1 DSLR

2004-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jul 2004 at 21:01, Herb Chong wrote: > the gamma looks a lot wrong on my system and so i use it only to check > composition and focus. i have to load it into Photoshop to check the colors and > shadow detail. I'm using the current Beta 7.0*b7(2097) and it doesn't have a gamma problem. Ro

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jul 2004 at 20:49, Herb Chong wrote: > no effect. Well they are the values that will be adopted by the RAW convertor if used unassisted. I set pre-set the settings when shooting RAW just as I would when shooting jpg. IMHO it's not just good practice it's lazy not to do so and can make po

Re: using C1 DSLR

2004-07-23 Thread Herb Chong
the gamma looks a lot wrong on my system and so i use it only to check composition and focus. i have to load it into Photoshop to check the colors and shadow detail. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:19 P

LX for $152?

2004-07-23 Thread Rfsindg
Gonz, I read this as... LX with problems, CLA didn't solve, Pentax repairman stumped. Beware. Regards, Bob S. Gonz wrote: Can this be right? This is really sad if our beloved top of the line manual cameras are going for this much: http://tinyurl.com/4yx3o rg

RE: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-23 Thread Don Sanderson
Don't forget the wax for the leaf they're sitting on! Very pretty, very natural! ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 10:09 AM > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: TTL Flash for Macros > > > On 23/7/04, Lon Williamson, discombobu

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Don't you own a Spotty? Poor Boy! Norm Baugher wrote: I have everything but the attractive body; can I still excel? Norm

Re: using C1 DSLR

2004-07-23 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Larry Hodgson wrote: > Hi Alex, > You wrote: > > >I use C1DSLR for my conversions. > > >alex > > How do like C1DSLR? Have you compared it to the results from Photoshop? Is > it worth the money? Please give some thoughts on your experience with this > product. It is pretty good

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Norm Baugher
I have everything but the attractive body; can I still excel? Norm William Robb wrote: "To excell at digital photography all you need is a brilliant mind, extraordinary sensitivity, unprecedented compatability and an attractive body" -Canon advert: Photo Techniques, May/June 2004-.

Re: Tan's foray into stock photography....

2004-07-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
Really nice work. I agree with your favorite, even before I read it was your favorite.

OT: Tans prattling again (RE: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film)

2004-07-23 Thread Rfsindg
Tom reminded me... The tintinabulation of the bells. Regards, Bob S. Tom C. wrote: That's a soliloquy if I've ever heard one.

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 1:45 PM Subject: CCD vs. CMOS > Hi all > I just talked to a Canon guy on the phone. He said that the reason Canon is > ruling the world of digital photoraphy at the moment is, that they stuck to > CMOS while everybody e

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Jostein
Yeah. While the rest of the pack only saw seeds. (sorry, that sucked too...:-)) nietsoJ - Original Message - From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: Re: CCD vs. CMOS > I think they were the first ones to see moss on

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Norm Baugher
I think they were the first ones to see moss on the north side of the tree. Norm (sorry, that sucked) Jens Bladt wrote: Hi all I just talked to a Canon guy on the phone. He said that the reason Canon is ruling the world of digital photoraphy at the moment is, that they stuck to CMOS while everybody

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-23 Thread Jostein
Don't forget the freezing spray! The one they use for removing chewing gum form carpets and stuff is supposedly the right stuff. Or you can snare them onto flowers dipped in something sticky and then sedate them with ethyl-ether... Or better yet, kill them with the same ether, prepare them and st

Re: using C1 DSLR

2004-07-23 Thread Jostein
Hi, Larry I'm not Alex, but since I'm going off-list for a couple of days, I thought I might put in my opinions as well. Last week, I tried the best I could to compare the raw-file converters from PhaseOne, Photoshop CS, Pentax (both photo lab and the PS plugin), FotoStation v5.1, ThumbsPlus v7bet

SMC K 55mm 1.8

2004-07-23 Thread Thibouille
Anyone got this lens ? Is it a good one (relatively) ? Thanks for your input. Thibouille

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/7/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, offered: >I just talked to a Canon guy on the phone. He said that the reason Canon is >ruling the world of digital photoraphy at the moment is, that they stuck to >CMOS while everybody else left it for CCD's. I'm not an electronics >engineer, so what do guy

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-F 28mm f/2.8 lens, EX+

2004-07-23 Thread Joe Wilensky
Yes, the F is autofocus. Joe On Jul 23, 2004, at 4:15 PM, John Bailey wrote: --- Joe Wilensky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I picked up the F version of the 28mm f/2.8 lens (same optical formula as the A, different than the Is the F autofocus? = jb `:^)

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-F 28mm f/2.8 lens, EX+

2004-07-23 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: "John Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 11:15 PM Subject: Re: FS: Pentax SMC-F 28mm f/2.8 lens, EX+ > --- Joe Wilensky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I picked up the F version of the 28mm f/2.8 lens > > (same optical formula as the A, different

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread DagT
På 23. jul. 2004 kl. 17.04 skrev Cotty: On 23/7/04, Jostein, discombobulated, offered: I think there's only four of us posting here at the moment, btw. DagT, Pål, and myself, and now Toralf. The world in general needs more Norwegians. :-) What you all don't realise is that the Klingons have landed

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/7/04, Jostein, discombobulated, offered: >I think there's only four of us posting here at the moment, btw. DagT, >Pål, and myself, and now Toralf. The world in general needs more >Norwegians. :-) What you all don't realise is that the Klingons have landed and are slowly infiltrating society

Re: Vivitar 2X teleconverer?

2004-07-23 Thread Fred
> I also saw a used Vivitar 2X teleconverter today. Apart from the > conventional wisdom about teleconverters in general, can anyone > tell me anything about it? Hi, Toralf. I'm familiar with two models of Vivitar 2X TC's: The 4-element model (labeled something such as "2X-22") is not particular

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-F 28mm f/2.8 lens, EX+

2004-07-23 Thread Alan Chan
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/wide-angle/F28f2.8.html Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan --- Joe Wilensky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I picked up the F version of the 28mm f/2.8 lens > (same optical formula as the A, different than the Is the F autofocus? _

Re: TTL Flash for Macros

2004-07-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/7/04, Lon Williamson, discombobulated, offered: >That there bug needs a shave, Cotty. A smooth bum would have >made you happy. > >Cotty wrote: >>snip.. - this was a real pain to get right, and even then I'm >> not happy with it: >> >>

Re: PAW - LU Window

2004-07-23 Thread Badri A
Brian's right, this image has all the potential for being an 'optical illusion' demo. I'm wondering what the original image looks like, with detail in the background instead of pure black? Neat work. Badri On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:17:50 -0500, Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool shot. >

Vivitar 2X teleconverer?

2004-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund
I also saw a used Vivitar 2X teleconverter today. Apart from the conventional wisdom about teleconverters in general, can anyone tell me anything about it? - Toralf

Re: FS: Pentax SMC-F 28mm f/2.8 lens, EX+

2004-07-23 Thread John Bailey
--- Joe Wilensky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I picked up the F version of the 28mm f/2.8 lens > (same optical formula as the A, different than the Is the F autofocus? = jb `:^)

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread graywolf
Well, I thought it was the other way around. Everyone else used CCD's because they were better, and Canon used CMOS because that is what they had the FAB for. Also Canon's advertising budget seems to be about equal to the sum of everybody else's. Anyway, that is my opinion, a second beer and it

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund
Jens Bladt wrote: A 28-80mm (power)zoom - you know, the one a lot of people seem to hate. No reason to hate it. It's not as sharp as (my) Tokina 2.6-2.8 ATX PRO II 28-70. But befor I bought the Tokina I tested the two lenses Petnax 28-80 vs Tokina 28-70. I could not see the difference in resol

Re: OT: Tans prattling again (RE: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film)

2004-07-23 Thread frank theriault
--- Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Google doesn't recognize it, so it doesn't exist... > > keith whaley > > Steve Larson wrote: > > > I've got know, what is a tittynope? Opposite of > Dolly Parton? > > Hi, What are you guys so worried about? Apparently, I'm being held up as a gaz

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund
frank theriault wrote: --- Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK. I just subscribed to this list. Hi, Toralf, First, welcome to the list. Thanks. Hope you enjoy your stay, and stay for a long time. Actually, you may not know it, but you're in for life. One can't actually unsubscribe from

RE: OT: Tans prattling again (RE: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film)

2004-07-23 Thread Don Sanderson
Haven't been able to follow to close today. Have we had "incongruous"? Or my personal favorite, "conviviality"? Don > -Original Message- > From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT: Tans prattling again (R

Re: using C1 DSLR

2004-07-23 Thread Larry Hodgson
Hi Alex, You wrote: >I use C1DSLR for my conversions. >alex How do like C1DSLR? Have you compared it to the results from Photoshop? Is it worth the money? Please give some thoughts on your experience with this product. Larry from Prescott

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund
Jostein wrote: Hi Toralf. Welcome aboard. Thankyou... I agree that one of the 50mm is an obvious candidate to sell. Also, your two telezooms have overlapping ranges. Seems a bit redundant to keep both of those, unless the 70-210 gives very much better quality than the 100-300 within it's range.

Re: CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Gee, I always thought that it was because they were bigger than everyone else (more money) and more aggressive than everyone else. Technologies change all the time - the style of company doesn't. Bruce Friday, July 23, 2004, 12:45:56 PM, you wrote: JB> Hi all JB> I just talked to a Canon guy on

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund
Don Sanderson wrote: Welcome Toralf! Thanks. I'd go take some pics with them all, if the pics aren't acceptable to you, get rid of it! That's probably a good idea. And I guess I've started already. BTW: There's a nice little FAQ that explains the list goings on a bit: http://www.graywolfphoto

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! TL> OK. I just subscribed to this list. Thought I might start by telling you TL> about my most recent acquisition. I just bought an ME Super and a couple TL> of lenses at a net auction, on a time of the year when not a lot of TL> people care to place bids at such sites, I'

CCD vs. CMOS

2004-07-23 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi all I just talked to a Canon guy on the phone. He said that the reason Canon is ruling the world of digital photoraphy at the moment is, that they stuck to CMOS while everybody else left it for CCD's. I'm not an electronics engineer, so what do guys think? All the best Jens

FS: Pentax SMC-F 28mm f/2.8 lens, EX+

2004-07-23 Thread Joe Wilensky
I picked up the F version of the 28mm f/2.8 lens (same optical formula as the A, different than the later FA, which I also have) a couple of months ago. It's in EX+ condition, I see no flaws whatsoever. Images were beautiful, but I really don't need two 28mm primes. I'm keeping the FA, as I hav

Re: possible New Orleans PDML gathering?

2004-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Kenneth Waller wrote: > > Ann, you'll be close to Cafe Du Munde. You have to visit & have a cup of > their chicory coffee and some beignets. > > Good luck @ the tourney. > > Kenneth Waller > Now what "in the world" would I want to do that for??? If it is really close, it might be the spot f

Re: OT: Tans prattling again (RE: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film)

2004-07-23 Thread Keith Whaley
Keith Whaley wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:48:59 +1000, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: What an articulate bunch we are... We'd be _far_ less articulate if you'd lock up out thesauruses... Sighhh. That should be "OUR" thesauruses... keith keith whaley Superannuated. TTYL, Do

RE: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Oh, Kenneth, I forgot to say on that post, that I was shooting RAW. As such, I'm not sure just how much those settings actually affect the results. However, normally, when shooting a wedding for eg, I have the contrast/saturation level set on low, and the sharpness set on medium. Again, I'm not s

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > In his former life as a egzotic dancer alex wetmore wrote on 23.07.04 17:57: > > If you can afford the storage costs RAW is really the way to go. > > That's not only storage costs, but it is also time spent to convert all > these RAWs with right sett

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Keith Whaley
Jostein wrote: Hi, Dan. On first thought, I was pretty sure you were right, ans it turns out you're pretty close. In the 1990 USA population census, 3,9 million people in the USA claimed Norwegian heritage. That's 1 million short of Norway. Minnesota is one of the states they are most numerous, bu

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
In his former life as a egzotic dancer alex wetmore wrote on 23.07.04 17:57: > If you can afford the storage costs RAW is really the way to go. That's not only storage costs, but it is also time spent to convert all these RAWs with right settings :-) Something a'la digital darkroom work. -- Best

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
In his former life as a egzotic dancer Kenneth Waller wrote on 23.07.04 17:54: > I've had my ist D for a few weeks & like using it. However, I don't think I'll > give up shooting slides any time soon. > I've pretty much kept things simple by going with the default settings. > I saw Tan's post wher

Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?

2004-07-23 Thread Tom Reese
I wrote this about when film will die: > I think it will be when digital cameras can produce a sharper picture than > film can. William Robb then replied: "That day has already arrived. However, sharpness is only one criteria." That day hasn't arrived in my experience. My experience is that if

Re: OT: Tans prattling again (RE: not particularly Re: Digital vs Film)

2004-07-23 Thread Keith Whaley
Doug Franklin wrote: On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:48:59 +1000, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: What an articulate bunch we are... We'd be _far_ less articulate if you'd lock up out thesauruses... keith whaley Superannuated. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread alex wetmore
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Kenneth Waller wrote: > I've had my ist D for a few weeks & like using it. However, I don't > think I'll give up shooting slides any time soon. I've pretty much > kept things simple by going with the default settings. I saw Tan's > post where she talked about the settings fo

Re: *istD settings

2004-07-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
I've had my ist D for a few weeks & like using it. However, I don't think I'll give up shooting slides any time soon. I've pretty much kept things simple by going with the default settings. I saw Tan's post where she talked about the settings for an imasge she posted and saw that she was shootin

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Jostein
Hi, Dan. On first thought, I was pretty sure you were right, ans it turns out you're pretty close. In the 1990 USA population census, 3,9 million people in the USA claimed Norwegian heritage. That's 1 million short of Norway. Minnesota is one of the states they are most numerous, but far from the

Dongwon P70 ??

2004-07-23 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
A curious camera on Ebay: item # 3829589486 "Pentax P70-2 Camera manufactured for Pentax by Dongwon in Korea. To Pentax specifications. ." With Pentax zoom lense,1:3.5-4.5, 20-80mm I have found by Google that Dongwon produced camera for Pentax in the 80'.

RE: My first wedding shoot.

2004-07-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, tom wrote: > If you think about it, a wedding is actually one of the most interesting > things you can shoot if you like to shoot people. Everyone looks good, > they're on their best behavior, they're participating in religious and > cultural ceremonies, they're dancing and ge

Re: My first wedding shoot.

2004-07-23 Thread Norm Baugher
It is Mexico and from what you've said, this should be good (along with the embarrassing photo ops)! Norm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm assuming this is Guadalajara, Mexico. A Mexican wedding has some interesting customs. One is where the groomsmen undress the groom down to his shirt and unment

Re: PAW - Window

2004-07-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
An A for originality. I like the simplicity. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Billy Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PAW - Window I've finally got round to shooting some film since I finished a photo course about a month ago (which sort of removed any joy from taking photos

RE: dirty sounding words-was: Tans prattling again

2004-07-23 Thread Christian
-Original Message- From: tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > frank > theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "Spatula" is a good one. Who's your friend?! tv (anyone remember Stripes?) Ah yes: "The Aunt Jemimah treatment" Christian

Re: My first wedding shoot.

2004-07-23 Thread jaalmanza
I'm assuming this is Guadalajara, Mexico. A Mexican wedding has some interesting customs. One is where the groomsmen undress the groom down to his shirt and unmentionables. Then the cloths are handed to his new bride so she can dress him. Someone hands her a hat and a belt. Someone else han

Re: PAW: Inside the Peloton

2004-07-23 Thread graywolf
Aw, now you have done it, Frank! You have brought tears to my eyes. No, wait, thats my lunch burning. -- frank theriault wrote: He's like my much much much older brother. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html

RE: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Jens Bladt
That's a good one :-)) Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 23. juli 2004 15:44 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Many lenses; which too keep? Keep them all. The good ones you wan

RE: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Jens Bladt
>A 28-80mm (power)zoom - you know, the one a lot of people seem to >hate. No reason to hate it. It's not as sharp as (my) Tokina 2.6-2.8 ATX PRO II 28-70. But befor I bought the Tokina I tested the two lenses Petnax 28-80 vs Tokina 28-70. I could not see the difference in resolution until I enlarg

Re: My first wedding shoot.

2004-07-23 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Anytime you put 100 or 200 people together, > put them on a schedule, and add some emotion, > you're going to get the possibility that something screws up. Heh. I've done two weddings in my life. One of them was up on the west coas

Re: PAW: Inside the Peloton

2004-07-23 Thread graywolf
Oh, I love his comments, and Frank is a really nice guy on the list and off. It is just that they so influence the thinking about the photos before you even look at them. That his photos are entirely capable of standing on their own, was my intended point. -- Jerry Todd wrote: I happen to enjoy

Re: My first wedding shoot.

2004-07-23 Thread Norm Baugher
That's what I'm doing next weekend in Guadalajara at my friends wedding. They have the wedding photog for the formals, then I'm being turned loose with B&W to shoot whatever the hell I want toshould be fun. Norm (who says Tequila and B&W don't mix?) tom wrote: Imagine the possibilities! Imag

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Don Sanderson
Welcome Toralf! I'd go take some pics with them all, if the pics aren't acceptable to you, get rid of it! BTW: There's a nice little FAQ that explains the list goings on a bit: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html It'll help get you up to speed on some of the stuff that goes on aro

RE: PAW - You probably won´t like this one

2004-07-23 Thread tom
That's cool. tv > -Original Message- > From: Peter Loveday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 3:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PAW - You probably won´t like this one > > I don't even want to know whereabouts that hair is... :) > > Love, Light and Pea

Re: Vivitar 70-210/4.5

2004-07-23 Thread Fred
> So I got a deal on a lens, a Vivitar 70-210/4.5 MC Macro for like, $40. > But - is this a Series 1 lens? It's not on the cult classics page and > it's hard to find information about this lens. I don't think so - I think that this is the "consumer grade" 70-210 for Vivitar. Fred

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Go to Minnesota. I believe that there are more Norwegians there than in Norway. Jostein wrote: I think there's only four of us posting here at the moment, btw. DagT, Pål, and myself, and now Toralf. The world in general needs more Norwegians. :-)

RE: dirty sounding words-was: Tans prattling again

2004-07-23 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > frank > theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "Spatula" is a good one. Who's your friend?! tv (anyone remember Stripes?)

RE: My first wedding shoot.

2004-07-23 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Hi, Shrek, > > You know, when I fantasize about being a professional photog, > then realize that no one wants to buy fuzzy b&w photos of > people they don't know, I think that I could be a wedding > photogra

Re: Vivitar 70-210/4.5

2004-07-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Henri Toivonen wrote: > But - is this a Series 1 lens? It's not on the cult classics page and > it's hard to find information about this lens. If it it (which I doubt, though I am not a specialist) it will say so on the barrel. Kostas

Vivitar 70-210/4.5

2004-07-23 Thread Henri Toivonen
So I got a deal on a lens, a Vivitar 70-210/4.5 MC Macro for like, $40. But - is this a Series 1 lens? It's not on the cult classics page and it's hard to find information about this lens. Anyone know something, worth the money? I don't want to buy another crappy lens, I already have a Tokina 70

Re: The old girl still has some life

2004-07-23 Thread Caveman
Norm Baugher wrote: 15USD for one roll Hey, it's "Limited". Like in Pentax "Limited" lens.

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Jostein
hehe... How about you representing Canadians, Frank? :-) I think there's only four of us posting here at the moment, btw. DagT, Pål, and myself, and now Toralf. The world in general needs more Norwegians. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread frank theriault
--- Tim Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Welcome to the list, Toralf! Keep'em all, and just > buy more... :) > Yeah, Just wait until Toralf grasps the concept of "enablement". Hee hee! cheers, frank = "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fe

Re: PAW: Inside the Peloton

2004-07-23 Thread frank theriault
--- Jerry Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I happen to enjoy Frank's comments for the most > part. Hi, Jerry, You just haven't been around here long enough that my self-absorbed and vacuuous dronings have begun to irritate you. As for Greywolf, well, he and I have an understanding. We can

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Tim Sherburne
Welcome to the list, Toralf! Keep'em all, and just buy more... :) t On 7/23/04 4:35, Toralf Lund wrote: > OK. I just subscribed to this list. Thought I might start by telling you > about my most recent acquisition. I just bought an ME Super and a couple > of lenses at a net auction, on a time o

Re: The old girl still has some life

2004-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 Jul 2004 at 8:50, Norm Baugher wrote: > 15USD for one roll That's about the price of Velvia and Provia 135/36 here (and has been for a long time). Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publi

Re: PAW: Inside the Peloton

2004-07-23 Thread frank theriault
--- Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It definitely gives a sense of action and chaos in > the pack. > > Christian > > -Original Message- > From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2550847 > > Thanks, Christian. -frank = "Th

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread frank theriault
--- Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Toralf. > > Welcome aboard. > > With a name like yours and working for a > Kongsberg-based company, I > hope it's not jumping to conclusions to assume > another Norwegian on > the List? :-) Lord, no!! Please say it ain't so. OTOH, maybe Jostien isn

Re: The old girl still has some life

2004-07-23 Thread Norm Baugher
15USD for one roll Norm William Robb wrote: Apparently, a limited edition film. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3829317067&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:US:1

Re: PAW: Inside the Peloton

2004-07-23 Thread Christian
It definitely gives a sense of action and chaos in the pack. Christian -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2550847

Re: Many lenses; which too keep?

2004-07-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
Keep them all. The good ones you want to keep, and the bad ones aren't worth selling.

Re: PAW: Inside the Peloton

2004-07-23 Thread frank theriault
--- Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice captures Frank. But while some people have > tilted horizons you have tilted bikes - > > I really like > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2550847. > I can tell its yours since its blurry ! VBG> > But seriously, for me it really cap

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