glenn murphy wrote:
I'm not getting my hopes up (well, maybe a little), but B&H currently
lists it as "Out Of Stock" instead of "Backordered", and Adorama has a
note claiming "This Item is on the way to our warehouse and is expected
in a few days."
:( I gave up and cancelled my B&H order last w
I'm not getting my hopes up (well, maybe a little), but B&H currently
lists it as "Out Of Stock" instead of "Backordered", and Adorama has a
note claiming "This Item is on the way to our warehouse and is expected
in a few days."
Glenn
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 09:58:15PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
> Maybe I just have a different standard than others - maybe good enough is
> good enough, and most people when looking at a print can't see an off
> couple of pixels, but if I know there's something that can be made better,
> and I
And it's quite possible that each exposure will be different even though
the light has not changed.
Here's a little example I used with some of my students. Turn on a light
in a dimly it room. Turn on your camera meter. Place the brightest part
of the light dead center in the frame. Now, move
On 6 May 2005 at 17:01, David Zaninovic wrote:
> Small beer fridge would increase the chances of surviving, it would
> prolong
> the time needed to heat the camera. I can test with
> thermometer first to see how high the temperature will go inside the fridge.
> I
> live near NYC and hu
On 6 May 2005 at 23:19, William Robb wrote:
> People no longer use light meters. For the most part, they trust their
> camera to make the right judgement call, with little or no input. They walk
> around an inanimate object taking a dozen or more exposures in the hope that
> one
> may be the rig
On May 7, 2005, at 5:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
A friend just told me about a way to get
to the other side, so I'm looking forward to making some photos from a
different position. Here's a B&W that he made recently.
http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/from-the-cabin.jpg
I really like this one. I
On May 7, 2005, at 12:13 AM, Pål Jensen wrote:
Sure, the eyepiece is of plastic but isn't that true for all slr's
made today?
A plastic eyepiece isn't such a bad thing. My glasses have an
antireflective coating which is nowhere near as robust as SMC. The
reason I also had contact lenses pre
On May 7, 2005, at 9:01 AM, David Zaninovic wrote:
Quoting out of context:
Small beer fridge would increase the chances of surviving
Of course - all that heat is going to make you thirsty! :)
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
- Original Message -
From: "Tom C"
Subject: Re: Digital profligacy
I'm jumping in the middle of the thread, not having read all the posts,
risking ridicule.
I personally doubt that autoexposure, autofocus, etc., etc., etc, has led
to a decline in quality of photographs taken. Sure so
Hi Boris ... I dl'd your pic and rotated it, and didn't lose the shoe ;-))
Is there more than one shoe in the pic? I only see one.
Thanks for you comment about the thoroughness inherent in the pic.
Coincidentally, I just responded to a post from John Francis about that
very subject. In truth,
I didn't say less than perfection was "unacceptable" John. There's no such
thing as perfection, or so I've been told, so we all have to accept "less
than." But to actually be willing, or advocating, not to try for high
quality, well, that just seems a bit strange.
I've worked with a few great pr
Badly reduced excessive contrast, I'll have to work on it.
Peter Williams wrote:
Frank said:
the background seems kinda flat and uninspiring
I actually thought it looked like a print that had been fogged.
There is definately something wrong with the flat,
grey background, it seems completel
Francis Alviar wrote:
Just grabbed a FA 28-70mm f/4 off of that auction
site.
It belonged to a former list member (I think) Gary
Murphy.
I've been reading comments for this lens from Stan's
site and it's been getting good reviews. Any other
comments you guys want to add?
Can't wait to try it out.
Hi!
I don't understand what you mean by my shot being "very thorough."
One where all the details, even the smallest one are taken into account
and worked upon.
Overall I like your photo, but it has some elements in it that lessen its
impact. The most glaring, as i see it, is the tilted horizon.
Pål Jensen wrote:
Carlos wrote:
According to Richard Hunecke's books about the MZ-5/3/5n (sorry if I have
mispelled his name, I have one of my cats on my lap and cannot go to check it)
the internal chassis of those cameras is made of metal (light alloy diecast).
REPLY:
Really? I could swear it w
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:51:39PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> And you have made my point, Tom. The results of a print from an improperly
> exposed negative and one that is properly exposed are different. true, the
> results may be "acceptable" and in some cases the differences subtle, but
>
Excellent photos, Frank.
Congrats and enjoy!
Albano
--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I mentioned a coupla weeks ago that my friend
> Jennifer included a few
> of my photos of her and her group Pirate Jenny on
> their new CD. Six
> or seven in all (not the cover, though) - here ar
hi Frank,
I can jump too. I made about 100 rolls total in my 5
years shooting film (yes, only 100 in 5 years). I
shoot very few frames, not because of money, simply
because this is how I take photos. I've bought a
digital camera 6 months ago and have shot around 3000
photos. So, I shot in half a ye
Thanks Herb, Bill ... I really didn't want to see the eye doctor this week
;-))
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Bill Owens
> I think you're absolutely right Herb. He was trotting across the road at
a
> fairly good clip and I think he had moved enough between the time the
camera
> focused
I think you're absolutely right Herb. He was trotting across the road at a
fairly good clip and I think he had moved enough between the time the camera
focused and the shutter tripped to cause it to be somewhat out of focus.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
i think it is blurred because the focus is a few feet behind the bird. the
foot is slightly motion blurred.
Herb...
Frank said:
>
> the background seems kinda flat and uninspiring
I actually thought it looked like a print that had been fogged.
There is definately something wrong with the flat,
grey background, it seems completely un-nantural
--
Peter Williams
You're right Shel, it is a bit fuzzy! I don't know whether it's the bird
trotting pretty fast, or outrunning the autofocus.
I saw a couple instances yesterday of gobblers strutting for the hens, but
couldn't get a shot.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
I went to get my glasses and took another look. Still appears sharp to
me. Of course it's an itty bitty web image. It's impossible to
determine if it's critically sharp without seeing a high res version or
at least a crop from a high res version.
Paul
On May 6, 2005, at 10:55 PM, Shel Belinkoff
Thanks, Paul
I got about 6 shots as he trotted across the road. One of them off the road
has possibilities that I'll work on tomorrow.
Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: Here's the turkey
Beautiful
Maybe my eyes need another examination, maybe I need new glasses or a new
monitor, but that turkey doesn't look particularly sharp to me.
That said, it's a good catch. Those bards are hard come across and even
harder still to photograph. Good work, Bill!
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: Pau
Nice shot, but it seems almost too sharp. Either that or the southern
birds are a lot better groomed than our northern turkeys
Bill Owens wrote:
Got this shot within 10 minutes of leaving GFM.
*istD, Tamron 75-300 at 300, ISO 400
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3340897
Bill
--
A ma
And you have made my point, Tom. The results of a print from an improperly
exposed negative and one that is properly exposed are different. true, the
results may be "acceptable" and in some cases the differences subtle, but
that acceptance often comes at a lower standard of quality.
While i can
Bill Owens wrote:
"I spent most of the last 24 hours on GFM where we had an opportunity to
try and photograph the new bear cub, Boomer. Unfortunately he had other
ideas and spent the whole morning in a tree. Mama bear, Carolina, was
too interested in eating lemon cookies to concern herself with
Beautiful rendering of the bird. Good light, good color, nice and
sharp. The asphalt is a bit unfortunate, but it's still a very good
shot.
Paul
On May 6, 2005, at 10:22 PM, Bill Owens wrote:
Got this shot within 10 minutes of leaving GFM.
*istD, Tamron 75-300 at 300, ISO 400
http://www.photo.ne
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> art brings order to chaos - it creates harmony
>
This one seems to have very limited application.
There is so much art that isn't about order and harmony.
--
Peter Williams
Got this shot within 10 minutes of leaving GFM.
*istD, Tamron 75-300 at 300, ISO 400
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3340897
Bill
Photographed at an event I attended. Posted the URL earlier to the
LONDON PDML thread.
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_characters.html
Pentax *ist-D 43ltd. ISO 800
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
On 5/6/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Someone should warn Boris's wife.
She's got enough to deal with already, don't you think?
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Someone should warn Boris's wife.
frank theriault wrote:
On 5/6/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree with Frank.
Now there's a scary thought...
-frank
--
A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
--Groucho Marx
On 5/6/05, Cesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You must get a picture of her with them.
Cesar,
Posted this around Easter, maybe when you were on one of your frequent
sojourns from the list:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3224246
cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois conc
On 5/6/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The place is cold all the time, with frequent power outages. We don't have
> inside plumbing either.
You have power?
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
On 5/6/05, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you feel you need to do this, perhaps you might try a small cooler with a
> refreezeable thingie (I forget what they're called).
Freezer pack? Blue ice? Refreezable thingie?
I think they all work.
cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a
On 5/6/05, Frantisek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi John, I got back for last two days so I was able to read
> PDML. Thanks for your assesment of Prague. I hope you had a good
> time afterwards! The photograph of me is actually nice .
>
> I have put up some I took during the evening as well, hope
On 5/6/05, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Interesting article on Lou Jones, jazz photographer. Think you'll like
> this, Frank.
>
> http://shutterbug.com/features/0405loujones/
>
What an interesting article, Derby! I really enjoyed it - mixes two
of my favourite things (and that ca
On 5/6/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Frank ...
>
> Y'know, I don't recall the lens I was using that day. I had three with me,
> the K30/2.8, a 135 or 150, and something else - probably the K85 or the
> K105 (I usually carry one or the other of those just about every time I go
On 5/6/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yep, More Better ...
Better is good...
Thanks, Shel.
cheers,
frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Interesting article on Lou Jones, jazz photographer. Think you'll like
this, Frank.
http://shutterbug.com/features/0405loujones/
D
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
"Small beer fridge would increase the chances of surviving, it would prolong
the time needed to heat the camera."
If you feel you need to do this, perhaps you might try a small cooler with a
refreezeable thingie (I forget what they're called). You would have to refreeze
it every night. I'd cons
"A breaking pitch, a swing and a miss. And there behind the plate, on the two areas of the stands where they usually
place electronic billboards for such things as Viagra or Desperate Housewives (although with the former, why should there be any of the latter?), -- PENTAX
PENTAX -- in their big r
Yep, More Better ...
Shel
> [Original Message]
> From: frank theriault
> what you think, but I prefer these results to the last bunch:
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3340570&size=lg
>
> Sorry for the long story. I'd be pleased to consider all
Hi Frank ...
Y'know, I don't recall the lens I was using that day. I had three with me,
the K30/2.8, a 135 or 150, and something else - probably the K85 or the
K105 (I usually carry one or the other of those just about every time I go
out - the 85mm is my favorite optic). Maybe this was made wit
Thanks ... making a conversion to sepia is very easy. If I'm not mistaken,
PS 7.0 has a sepia action as part of the action set included with the
program. Why don't you try making a sepia conversion yourself.
If for some reason you can't find the sepia action in the PS action palette
, let me kno
I spent most of the last 24 hours on GFM where we had an opportunity to try
and photograph the new bear cub, Boomer. Unfortunately he had other ideas
and spent the whole morning in a tree. Mama bear, Carolina, was too
interested in eating lemon cookies to concern herself with posing for a
cou
Just grabbed a FA 28-70mm f/4 off of that auction
site.
It belonged to a former list member (I think) Gary
Murphy.
I've been reading comments for this lens from Stan's
site and it's been getting good reviews. Any other
comments you guys want to add?
Can't wait to try it out.
Francis M. Alvia
Excellent photo as usual Shel.
I wonder what this image would look like in sepia?
IAC wonderful photo.
Francis
--
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:15:28 -0700
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO PAW - Abandoned But Not F
On 5/6/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I agree with Frank.
>
Now there's a scary thought...
-frank
--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> When are you going to be there? I'm flying over on the 24th.
Me too!
Wow, I'm traveling light compared to you guys! My kit:
*istD, Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8, Sigma 15mm fisheye, Tam 1.4x and 2x TCs, image
tank, batteries, maybe a couple of filters. Camera and glass all fit in a
Lowepro Off Trail 1
You guys might remember that I was working on some shots of my buddy,
trumpet player Tim and his band. The shots were pretty flat and
unemotional.
Well, a couple of weeks ago, Tim and his band (with a different bass
player) were at a well-known local jazz bar, The Rex. It was Tim's
birthday. Fo
On 5/6/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's another shot of my favorite fishing boat. Nothing special ... I was
> using the photo to practice some Photoshop techniques last night, and
> decided to post the pic here. Shot on Ektachrome 100G
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics
> Trouble is, there are too many good pubs to
> keep track of them all so I'm not absolutely certain. Guess
> we'll have to stop by for some "research" ;-)
www.fancyapint.com - rates pubs throughout London. And you can download the
site to your Palm. :) That's what I'm going to do...not sure if
I mentioned a coupla weeks ago that my friend Jennifer included a few
of my photos of her and her group Pirate Jenny on their new CD. Six
or seven in all (not the cover, though) - here are a few (don't click
if you saw them in my initial post):
http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=488908
On 5/6/05, UncaMikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Quite good, Frank. I like it. But I was hoping that you would simply
> edit your sig line, and say "Art is a bourgeois concept." And then we
> could pretend we were sitting around a table in a cafe in Paris in
> 1904, drinking absinthe and eag
On 5/6/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > Missed last week, preparing for the show (but I think I've been
> > submitting over my quota anyway ). I originally thought of
> > submitting this one for the upcoming PUG themed "dance", but I've
> > changed my mind. Just a fun sn
I said:
>
> "And I'm not saying that taking piles and piles of photos with a
> smaller ratio of "winners" is a bad thing - it's always been said that
> taking lots of photos is a key to improving."
And, Tom Reese answered:
>
> I don't know if I agree with that. I believe that the key to improvin
--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> About the all I can say about art is that it's a form of
> communication
> that seeks to explain the world and the universe and our experience
> within, in ways that may not be expressed or expressable in other
> ways. Poor definition, I know, but
On 5/6/05, David Zaninovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I feel that opposite is true, there are more people taking high quality
> pictures now than ever. Learning curve with digital is much
> faster because there is no penalty for taking more pictures. I am talking
> about people who actually w
Other light might well be interesting but I rather like the shadows from
this light which show off the 3D shape of the bow, and around the top of
the superstructure. An hour earlier/later I can imagine not working so well
in this regard. Anyway, I like the shot!
Cheers,
Eric.
At 06:07 pm 06/05/
Every art has it's accepted display.
For photographs, paintings, drawings, etc., it's a frame.
For sculpture, it's a pedestal.
For music, dancing, theatre, etc., it's a stage.
For literature, poetry, etc., it's a binding.
For jewelry, it's a finger.
etc.
Regards,
Bob...
I said: "which camera has a higher ratio of interesting photos to duds?"
To which Ken Waller responded:
> Gee, and I thought it was the photographer that took the image not the camera.
>
> Kenneth Waller
You don't think that some photographers shoot more digitally because
they can without payin
--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would guess that exposure for exposure, there are more good,
> correctly exposed photographs taken now than 30 years ago, 40 years
> ago, ad infinitum.
I definitely agree. I was just talking to my wife last night,
remarking how the advances in camera tec
On 5/6/05, David Zaninovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, but DSLR will pay of its price many times over 10 years of service
> because you don't have to buy film and pay for processing.
You think so?
You need a computer. Were I to buy a dslr, I'd have to upgrade the
computer I currently use,
But what about "bad art"? It won't stand the test of time, but it's still
called art - just not good art. If it has a frame, it's art.
Regards,
Bob...
"A picture is worth a thousand words,
but it uses up three thousand times the memory."
From: "U
A frame.
Regards,
Bob...
"A picture is worth a thousand words,
but it uses up three thousand times the memory."
Hmmm. I'll try sending this again. I sent it this morning, but I
never got it back, it's not in the archives, and no one responded to
it (the latter not being particularly telling ):
-- Forwarded message --
From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: May 6, 2005 8:32 AM
Subje
Not all of us can afford the space for a JOBO processor. If I process
my own B&W film I can do it in the kitchen sink without too much
trouble. I don't have a dedicated darkroom, but the computer is always
set up.
mike wilson wrote:
P. J. Alling wrote:
in Photoshop. One of the main reasons I
Defiantly single...
Graywolf wrote:
Ah, reading this thread, I finally get it, "Art is annoying!"
GRIN!
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
DagT wrote:
The first two defines the opposite to what I see as art. The
pleasing, bo
Surely not all Curly...
http://www.mindspring.com/~webster26/PESO_--_characters.html
Cotty wrote:
On 6/5/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
You won't miss Cotty, Jostein or me. Guaranteed. Especially if we are
all together.
Yeah, think The Three Stooges :-)
Cheers,
Cotty
___/
P. J. Alling wrote:
in Photoshop. One of the main reasons I bought a *ist-D was to get
control of my color photography.
I did that. Bought a Jobo processor.
m
All I did (as I also used to do with my MZ-5) was putting a rubber
string cut out from a waste black bicycle inner tyre around the eyecup
to prevent loosing this. Some day I discovered that the eyecup of the
MZ-S got loose on one side because of the broken plastic edge.
Henk
> -Original Mess
Last year there were 5 lab choices within a 10 minute drive, not
counting Wal-Mart and CVS minilabs. Today there are 2. One is not
lamented, one is, one neutral. Of the three that are gone each screwed
up at least one roll of film, not so badly that usable images couldn't
be obtained, but a
På 6. mai. 2005 kl. 22.30 skrev William Robb:
- Original Message - From: "DagT" Subject: Re: what makes a
photograph art...
Good art may be annoying, bad art is pretentious, pretty and boring...
So by your definition, good art must also be ugly?
Only if it isn´t annoying .-)
But as you k
John Francis wrote:
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 10:49:50AM -0400, P. J. Alling wrote:
Art is painful to look at
Art is disruptive of normality
Art questions, reduces and simplifies our experience of life
Art is clear, straightforward and uncomplicated.
Based on these definition
Hi,
[...]
> getting good quality. I see more and more, where people
> initially want good quality and then when they get a price
> for it, they decide that they don't think it is worth it.
are you sure of this?
Perhaps they do think it's worth the money, but simply don't have it. There
are
Small beer fridge would increase the chances of surviving, it would prolong
the time needed to heat the camera. I can test with
thermometer first to see how high the temperature will go inside the fridge. I
live near NYC and humidity feels like rain forest in
the summer.
> A car in full su
> Hi Pål:
> The author says so in his book, that under the plastic panels there
> is a robust diecast body, with a very stable shape, and torsion
> resistant. Anyway this is only a second translation of a bad translation.
> I haven't dismantled my MZ-5 or MZ-S, I am not so curious, and I
> don't
On 6/5/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Personally, I have never really understood why people feel the need to
>categorise things as art or not-art, or even as good, bad and indifferent
>art. I would rather approach the object or performance in question, and
>examine my own reaction to it,
I'm jumping in the middle of the thread, not having read all the posts,
risking ridicule.
I personally doubt that autoexposure, autofocus, etc., etc., etc, has led to
a decline in quality of photographs taken. Sure some people, alot of
people, who take photographs don't ever learn exposure for
> > Mine must be the rare one with metal inside then, I also have an even
> > rarer
> > MZ-3 with metal inside 8)
>
> Ouch...
Meant in good humour, no offence.
John
Hello Shel,
I think you are quite accurate here. I'd like to add that not only
are people accepting lower quality, they are de-valuing good quality.
There is a labor/time element, along with acquired skills to getting
good quality. I see more and more, where people initially want good
quality an
- Original Message -
From: "DagT"
Subject: Re: what makes a photograph art...
Good art may be annoying, bad art is pretentious, pretty and boring...
So by your definition, good art must also be ugly?
William Robb
Well, art is much more than pictures and can't always be framed - like
music, sculpture, architecture, litterature, poetry, dancing, movies,
theatre, jewellery, computer art etc. etc.
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Kenneth Wa
Pål Jensen escribió:
Carlos wrote:
According to Richard Hunecke's books about the MZ-5/3/5n (sorry if I have
mispelled his name, I have one of my cats on my lap and cannot go to check it)
the internal chassis of those cameras is made of metal (light alloy diecast).
REPLY:
Really? I could swear it
Hi all.
Thought i would put this out here first. I know a few members use Nikon D1's at
work and
this may
interest them.
Last year i thought i had left my battery charger for the D1 at a show, and
after several
months of
trying to find it,broke down and bought another one from ekkbay
Good art may be annoying, bad art is pretentious, pretty and boring...
DagT
På 6. mai. 2005 kl. 21.14 skrev Graywolf:
Also, it seems that, "Art is pretentious!"
Actually I think that anything the person who produced it thinks is
art, is art. Now whether it is "Good Art" is another question
altoge
- Original Message -
From: "David Zaninovic"
Subject: Re: Digital profligacy
Maybe that is what you are talking about ?
I'm talking about what I have observed over 35 years as a
photographer/photofinisher.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: "Graywolf"
Subject: Re: film at 50C
Yes one summer in the car can destroy (turn to goo) foam seals in the
camera. Actual experience with an ME Super that had all the foam replace
the year previously. I did not have any problems with the film in the
camera h
> Sniped
> Even though the drive from my place to the boat is only about an hour, it
> might be nice to just roll outta bed and be there ;-))
>
> Shel
>
I know i have missed photo op's just because of that reason alone.
Dave
>
> > [Original Message]
>
On Fri, 6 May 2005, Powell Hargrave wrote:
> I have spent a lot more money on photography since going digital. Not
> counting computers, printers, monitors etc. I would have needed these anyway.
What then?
Kostas
Hi Boris ...
I don't understand what you mean by my shot being "very thorough."
Overall I like your photo, but it has some elements in it that lessen its
impact. The most glaring, as i see it, is the tilted horizon. It looks
about 1 - 1.5 degrees skewed to the right. This tilt, amongst other
p
Also, it seems that, "Art is pretentious!"
Actually I think that anything the person who produced it thinks is art, is art. Now
whether it is "Good Art" is another question altogether. On the other hand my
father was Art, it said so on his birth certificate. Come to think of it he was often
pret
In other words, an image need only elicits a glandular
reaction in order to qualify as "art".
Don't they all?
Jack
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> On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 10:49:50AM -0400, P. J.
> Alling wrote:
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Ah, reading this thread, I finally get it, "Art is annoying!"
GRIN!
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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DagT wrote:
The first two defines the opposite to what I see as art. The pleasing,
boring things that are only aimed at t
Hi!
Here's another shot of my favorite fishing boat. Nothing special ... I was
using the photo to practice some Photoshop techniques last night, and
decided to post the pic here. Shot on Ektachrome 100G
http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/warm.html
Shel, the funny thing - few days ago I went to th
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