Re: Interesting marketing

2006-02-15 Thread Scott Loveless
Bring a tape recorder. Please. Reminds me of the time the sales monkey told me I should get the Nikon because the "Ni-core" lenses were better. When I asked how, she told me they were built better. I proceeded to point out the metal mount on the Pentax kit lens vs. the plastic mount on the Nikk

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Gonz
You have way too much time on your hands. ;) Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How does one measure zeal? With a zeal-o-meter. I may have thought up a way to do it. What we need t

Re: Another stacked set

2006-02-15 Thread Don Williams
That must take a long time. CombZ will stack 100 pictures in five or six minutes. Helicon Focus (less configurable) is faster, but in the case of the blue flowers it produced strange halos in some places -- around very dense areas for example. Having both programs is useful for the stuff I do

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Mishka
of course "the whole Michael Moore thing" got Palme d'Or. of course that was just a part of a giant plot of ultra-left french zealots to humiliate those who love freedom. the other parts of the same include imports roquefort and beaujolais. best, mishka On 2/16/06, Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

RE: Interesting marketing

2006-02-15 Thread Jon Myers
Yeah, do describe in detail the exchange. ;) --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd love to be there for that... maybe pick up a DS2 > as well > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: William Robb > > > We have a box retailer in Canada called Bset Buy. > > We have anot

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Gonz
frank theriault wrote: On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hardly. Few in this world address their cause with more zealotry than our bretheren on the left. And even the pope is no more convinced of his infallibility than are the liberal idealogues. But that's true of ma

Re: Delkin pop-up shade for *ist D

2006-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:17 PM, John Celio wrote: The screens on the D and the DS are the same size, I believe. ... John, the D has a 1.8" diagonal LCD where the DS has a 2" diagonal LCD. It's not a huge difference, but it is different. The DL and DS2 have a 2.5" diagonal LCD. Godfrey

RE: Interesting marketing

2006-02-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd love to be there for that... maybe pick up a DS2 as well Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > We have a box retailer in Canada called Bset Buy. > We have another called Future Shop. > I believe Best Buy owns Future Shop. > One sells Pentax DSLRs, the other sells Nikon. > A fr

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Jon Myers
Yeah, the DS2 is in the US market. A local chain camera shop mentioned it coming in there soon... plus it's on the USA Pentax website (http://www.pentaximaging.com). --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi John, > > The DS2 has been in stock at numerous dealers in the > US and in Ca

Ebay nonsense - New record price for this lens?

2006-02-15 Thread Gonz
Are good pentax lenses this scarce? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7588234932&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT http://tinyurl.com/cqrge

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 15, 2006, at 7:45 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I think the DS and DS2 are great cameras. I bought one. Now, after being out less than a year, the DS2 has become scarce as hen's teeth. That is ~frustrating~ especially since I don't know if the camera has been discontinued, if there's

Interesting marketing

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
We have a box retailer in Canada called Bset Buy. We have another called Future Shop. I believe Best Buy owns Future Shop. One sells Pentax DSLRs, the other sells Nikon. A friend of mine just shoed up with his new D70. He preferred the Pentax offering, and it was much less money. Sadly, he believe

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread Mishka
you demonstrate my point quite nicely. best, mishka On 2/15/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > in fact, religious intolerance has always been limited to > > western christians and islami > > > > which is exactly what we have right now. > > > Full circle on this subdiscussion, then

Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy Apparently you don't really know what I am saying (and that's why you think it's not credible) That's possible. Sometimes we just have to break down and say what we mean to make ourselves und

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John, The DS2 has been in stock at numerous dealers in the US and in Canada, which last I heard was North America. So where have all these places (B&H, Adorama, Beach, Buydig, Don's, McBain's, and at least a half-dozen other places) been getting these cameras that aren't supposed to be here?

Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread E.R.N. Reed
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy It would have to be false for all then, Christian or otherwise. That would be nice. Doesn't happen to be the case, but it certainly would be nice. If you think that is

Re: Delkin pop-up shade for *ist D

2006-02-15 Thread John Celio
An enabled John Celio wrote: -- Delkin pop-up LCD shade http://www.delkin.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=270&cat=63&page=1 I had to do a little surgery to get this to fit properly on my *ist D, but it was worth the effort (had to cut the eyepiece off and epoxy it back on a little to t

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread David Mann
On Feb 16, 2006, at 5:32 PM, John Celio wrote: By the way, when the D2 comes out, I call dibs on naming mine R2. You could buy a Ricoh R2 to keep it company. - Dave

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy It would have to be false for all then, Christian or otherwise. That would be nice. Doesn't happen to be the case, but it certainly would be nice. If you think that is the case, I suggest

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 06:24:08PM -0800, Gautam Sarup wrote: > On 2/15/06, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > in fact, religious intolerance has always been limited to > > western christians and islami > > The Hindus too. All religious groups that manage to > get their paws on power behave th

Re: What shall we name the new baby

2006-02-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! So what shall I call it? I was thinking of "Frank". I object, your honor. I see no ears of certain animal... *sorry, couldn't resist* Boris

Re: PESO - Walking

2006-02-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/68167923/ MX and 50/1.4 Super-Takumar, Tri-X in Rodinal 1:25. Adam, what you were trying to say with this shot? I don't understand. Perhaps you could tell. Boris

Re: Delkin pop-up shade for *ist D

2006-02-15 Thread John Celio
An enabled John Celio wrote: -- Delkin pop-up LCD shade http://www.delkin.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=270&cat=63&page=1 I had to do a little surgery to get this to fit properly on my *ist D, but it was worth the effort (had to cut the eyepiece off and epoxy it back on a little to t

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread E.R.N. Reed
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy And it is libel if it's false, which was my point. It would have to be false for all then, Christian or otherwise. That would be nice. Doesn't happen to be the case, bu

Re: PESO - Meself

2006-02-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I'd say that if this picture is taken while trusting to AF only, I think your eyes will thank you...:-) Yes, they already do. It's a funny shot, but I think it's hard to infer anything about the quality of the lens from it. Yes. It was done at f/8 or thereabouts. The distance between t

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Godfrey, I couldn't have said it better myself. You have articulated my thoughts almost exactly. Thanks, Bruce Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 7:18:00 PM, you wrote: GD> I do not understand this "gotta have new more better faster more now" GD> attitude. The rumors and supposedly informed folks

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy And it is libel if it's false, which was my point. It would have to be false for all then, Christian or otherwise. William Robb

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Perry Pellechia" Subject: Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment. That's funny, I do not see where anyone in this tread was saying "gotta have new more better faster more now." The point I think we all were trying to make is that Pentax has really not done much t

Re: PESO: around the corner

2006-02-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! What exactly "blizzard are us" means? Say, we have a shop in Israel called Toys-R-Us... I guess it has the same origin. Yet I don't exactly get its meaning... Colloquial American for "There's a hell of a lot of snow out there today!" ;-) Then, by transitivity Toys-R-Us means "There's a

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread John Celio
However, if there is nothing coming soon to replace the DS2, and if in fact the DS2 is discontinued, then I will give serious consideration to moving away from Pentax. I ~never~ thought I'd say those words, but it's now something that I am considering, or at least thinking about. I feel let dow

Re: PESO - Sick boy

2006-02-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! One of three sick boys in a row last month... http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=220284 Poor fellow... I hope he's getting better... Boris

Re: PESO - Meself

2006-02-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! nicely seen, very well caught. But why should you want to replace a fine SMC colour lens with that Sigma B&W thingy? Pancho, I've been discussing this on the list few days ago... My eyes no longer can do focusing in a way that I could use reliably. There is color version of the same sh

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I think the DS and DS2 are great cameras. I bought one. Now, after being out less than a year, the DS2 has become scarce as hen's teeth. That is ~frustrating~ especially since I don't know if the camera has been discontinued, if there's just a slowdown in delivery, or what. Even the sites liste

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I checked that option. But I want a camera soon, not at some unspecified date down the line. The frustration is that the DL can be found everywhere, but not the DS2. It's the DS2 that I want ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob Sullivan > Like Paul says, "notify when in stock" or bett

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Perry Pellechia
That's funny, I do not see where anyone in this tread was saying "gotta have new more better faster more now." The point I think we all were trying to make is that Pentax has really not done much to keep our confidence. There are lenses that are being discontinued or out of stock. There are pote

Re: PESO - Meself

2006-02-15 Thread Keith McGuinness
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! I think this Sigma lens is very reasonable replacement of my K24/2.8... http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11967 What do you say? About the lens, nothing...I'm no expert on them. About the photo, great fun! I like it. Great shot! Keith McG

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Shel, Like Paul says, "notify when in stock" or better yet, have them order one for you. This is how I got the 43mm. Regards, Bob S. On 2/15/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > B&H has a "notify when in stock" marker on the *istDS2. That means they > will get some more in stock. You

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
God protect me from those who know the truth... Bob S. On 2/15/06, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Religion is just a tool--as Ken Rockwell would say, the religion makes > no difference on the quality of the oppression you get from it. > > j > > On 2/15/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I do not understand this "gotta have new more better faster more now" attitude. The rumors and supposedly informed folks have said here and on every Pentax oriented forum for months that they will have new SLR products to announce at Photokina 2006, NOT PMA. Products announced for PMA have

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Perry Pellechia
Rick, I am not in a geat rush to upgrade. In fact I would prefer to skip a generation (I really do not judge the DS, DL, DL2 or DS2 as a different generation than the D). However, at the pace Pentax seems to be going I am worried. On 2/15/06, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not goin

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Rick Womer
I'm not going to get worked up. Yes, it would be nice to have a new DSLR to bring to GFM, my niece's wedding, and our planned European trip (all late May and June), but my film cameras are doing very nicely. I have 10 lenses, at last count, and 3 bodies, and I'd much rather wait another 6 months

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread Juan Buhler
Religion is just a tool--as Ken Rockwell would say, the religion makes no difference on the quality of the oppression you get from it. j On 2/15/06, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William Robb wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" > > Subject: Re: Religoon, C

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
B&H has a "notify when in stock" marker on the *istDS2. That means they will get some more in stock. You might want to click that button. I think that its fairly obvious that existing stocks of this camera have sold out. That's probably a good thing. They do have the *istD in stock, but it'

Re: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Perry Pellechia
I would be more optimistic about further announcements if there wasn't mention of the *ist DL2 and the AF-540FGZ. To me this is just padding their news. I do not like it. I wish I could help you with your search for a DS2. Some would say that this is a sign. I would like to think that Pentax w

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread E.R.N. Reed
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy Mishka wrote: afair, neither eastern orthodox church, nor jews (in the last 1000 years anyway) did that (unless you count nikonian reform in russia, which was pretty much

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Gautam Sarup
Hey Frank, No offense taken. It was just a matter of fact reply. I think people who get offended or demeaned by things that happened centuries ago should wake up. Cheers, Gautam On 2/15/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/14/06, Gautam Sarup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On

RE: Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
This is very disappointing, although, just because Pentax has chosen to make an early announcement for three P&S cameras doesn't preclude them from announcing a new DSLR at a later date or at the PMA show. However, like others on this list, I am becoming frustrated with Pentax. I'm now ready to p

Re: Katzeye optics - Review???

2006-02-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Feb 2006 at 20:00, William Robb wrote: > Would the darkening effect be changed if the aperture was not centered over > the optical axis of the glass? Most probably. I think Cory mentioned this in an earlier post. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread Gautam Sarup
On 2/15/06, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in fact, religious intolerance has always been limited to > western christians and islami The Hindus too. All religious groups that manage to get their paws on power behave the same way. Faith is the antithesis of reason and force is the only way i

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "E.R.N. Reed" Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy Mishka wrote: afair, neither eastern orthodox church, nor jews (in the last 1000 years anyway) did that (unless you count nikonian reform in russia, which was pretty much an internal affair,

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Mishka wrote: afair, neither eastern orthodox church, nor jews (in the last 1000 years anyway) did that (unless you count nikonian reform in russia, which was pretty much an internal affair, and more of a power grab by a secular czar). in fact, religious intolerance has always been limited to w

Re: Katzeye optics - Review???

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" Subject: Re: Katzeye optics - Review??? On 15 Feb 2006 at 14:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Logic would suggest that if exposure were affected by a change of screen, it would be off by a consistent amount in a specific direction. If exposure

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE He (Nader) later tried to do so with GM pickups, but had to give up when his people got caught faking the exploding gas tanks. ?? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Nader behind this particular episode

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Given my foreign policy positions, I'm pretty much a match for a Leiberman or Miller politically, and they go either way. Thats only one parameter. William Robb

D FA 50 F2.8

2006-02-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
Does anyone have one of these, or the 100? The 50 I ordered arrived today. I am not impressed with the physical feel. It is the flimsiest feeling lens I have ever held. I'm not sure whether to keep it or send it back. Right now I am inclined to send it back and get a used FA 50 instead. But I

Re: Another stacked set

2006-02-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Feb 2006 at 9:33, Don Williams wrote: > CombZ is free as you may know. Pick it up at: > > http://www.hadleyweb.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/CZ5/combinez5.htm > > and let me know how you get on. Alan is one > of the real experts in this field. Hi Don, Thanks for the info, it sounds pretty impres

Re: Katzeye optics - Review???

2006-02-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Feb 2006 at 14:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Logic would suggest that if exposure were affected by a change of screen, it > would be off by a consistent amount in a specific direction. If exposure is > "all over the place," I would think that it can't possibly be the fault of > the focus

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Well, for a Canuck, I'm pretty far right. Which puts me right on the cusp between a Democrat and a Republican. Don't kid yourself. It puts you not far off the left of a Democrat.

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
He (Nader) later tried to do so with GM pickups, but had to give up when his people got caught faking the exploding gas tanks. ?? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Nader behind this particular episode. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re

What shall we name the new baby

2006-02-15 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
Baby pictures (pictures taken with baby, that is): http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/A8514/AZ_IMGP1611.jpg http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/A8514/AZ_IMGP1612.jpg http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/A8514/AZ_IMGP1613.jpg http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/A8514/AZ_IMGP1614.jpg http://www.brendemuehl.

Re: OT getting stuff made

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Coyle" Subject: Re: OT getting stuff made You guys are just playing at this - fencing contractors at our place went through the lot, 10 minutes after arriving. No phones, water, or electricity, and the driveway blocked for hours while they tried to

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Well, for a Canuck, I'm pretty far right. Which puts me right on the cusp between a Democrat and a Republican. Don't kid yourself. It puts you not far off the left of a Democrat. William Robb

Pentax Pre PMA announcment.

2006-02-15 Thread Perry Pellechia
Not a good sign. Three new P&S's, No word on a new DSLR :( http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=7402703 Actually the P&S's look interesting but I thought Pentax said they were not going to focus on P&S's. <> Perry P

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
The Orthodox aren't exactly innocent there (See Balkans, the current group of religious intolerants who are on top are Orthodox [Serbs]). neither are the Jews (might want to look at some of the stuff they pulled in Palestine in the 1920's, or what's coming out of Israel's far religious right).

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I may have thought up a way to do it. What we need to do is find everybody who identifies themselves as far left or Christian Right, plus a control group of sensible middle-of-the-roaders such as myself. I'll be you

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Nader made more than a few bucks off those Corvairs. In fact, he made a career off them. I suspect the Pinto helped... I can well imagine he is unpopular with people in

Re: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Even the producer and director, as well as others close to the production, said it was never intended as a religious allegory. It was a lot simpler than that ... but both Wise and Blaustein said that if you read such things into the film, it was a good film, in that it made you think. Shel

Re: OT getting stuff made

2006-02-15 Thread John Coyle
You guys are just playing at this - fencing contractors at our place went through the lot, 10 minutes after arriving. No phones, water, or electricity, and the driveway blocked for hours while they tried to sort it out! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Willi

Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-15 Thread Mishka
afair, neither eastern orthodox church, nor jews (in the last 1000 years anyway) did that (unless you count nikonian reform in russia, which was pretty much an internal affair, and more of a power grab by a secular czar). in fact, religious intolerance has always been limited to western christians

Re: Expensive photo

2006-02-15 Thread John Coyle
Just goes to show that a poor photograph can fetch a ridiculous price if the photographer is rated as an icon! I think I need to re-examine what I rate as keepers and those I throw away... John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent:

OT: I spy with my b&w eye

2006-02-15 Thread Fernando Terrazzino
Anyone that knows b&w and have some spare time to help me... I'm playing around here with some old scans that I have from a trip to Thailand, and found this photo that I like but didn't quite get good exposure (bright light in the back, no flash to fill-in, yadda, yadda, yadda...). Basically t

Re: OT getting stuff made

2006-02-15 Thread David Savage
Could be worse, could have been electrical cables. Dave On 2/16/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15/2/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >But God alone knows what Cotty will get up to. > > I'm hitting nails through water pipes :-( > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ >

Re: OT getting stuff made

2006-02-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 15/2/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>But God alone knows what Cotty will get up to. > >I'm hitting nails through water pipes :-( Uh oh, sounds bad. Will we see in the next installation of the Greystones Dairy? -- Mark Roberts Photography

Re: OT getting stuff made

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: OT getting stuff made On 15/2/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: But God alone knows what Cotty will get up to. I'm hitting nails through water pipes :-( I cut a water pipe with a reciprocating saw one time. That was fu

Re: PESO - Meself

2006-02-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/2/06, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hi! > >I think this Sigma lens is very reasonable replacement of my K24/2.8... > >http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11967 > >What do you say? Har! Nice shot Boris - very clever. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Pl

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/2/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: >How does one measure zeal? Zealometer Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: PESO - Sunnin'

2006-02-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks to all who have commented. In the area where this was taken is a very large beaver pond. There are cattails and trees lining the pond, as well as scattered throughout the pond. So if you are a pond level, you really can't see much. There is a hill on one side when you can get a better va

Re: OT getting stuff made

2006-02-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/2/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed: >But God alone knows what Cotty will get up to. I'm hitting nails through water pipes :-( Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Tom C wrote: It may have been. The cyborg was Michael Rennie who played the alien Klaatu in "The Day the Earth Stood Still". Aha, my favorite religious allegory film. Bob

RE: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Tom C
It may simple be imagination combined with the ability to analyze the facts at hand and hypothesize about where that will lead in the future. Tom C. From: Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - So you think your detail

RE: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sometimes I am thinking whether sci-fi writers (such as e.g. Ray Bradbury, George Orwell, etc) were genius in forseeing the future or other people just implemented those fantasies. I heard of an experiment where a group of engineers was given some partial records of a researcher who had invent

Re: Expensive photo

2006-02-15 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: new world record price for a photo, by Edward Steichen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4715106.stm -- Does the knock-on effect cause my masterpieces to double in value, too? Almost certainly, but I'm no expert in the art market. Next time you're down here, let's

Re: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Tom C
From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Tom C wrote: One of my favorite B-movies from the '60's . "Cyborg 2087". A cyborg comes back from the future to stop the research that leads to an implanted device allowing the government to track your every move. I think

Re: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Tom C wrote: One of my favorite B-movies from the '60's . "Cyborg 2087". A cyborg comes back from the future to stop the research that leads to an implanted device allowing the government to track your every move. I think I remember that one. Wonder if it

RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob W
I've thought of another way which doesn't necessarily require so many guinea pigs, and may give more accurate results. First we select equal numbers of people from each group and test their physical strength, particularly their ability to push. We select a large number of people who have equal str

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I may have thought up a way to do it. > > What we need to do is find everybody who identifies themselves as far left > or Christian Right, plus a control group of sensible middle-of-the-roaders > such as myself. I'll be your far-leftie. Anyone wan

Re: PESO - Meself

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I think this Sigma lens is very reasonable replacement of my K24/2.8... > > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11967 > > What do you say? > Fun shot, Boris - very well done! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."

Re: PESO - Sick boy

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of three sick boys in a row last month... > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=220284 > Poor kid!! Great shot, though, Dag. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 2/15/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How does one measure zeal? > > With a zeal-o-meter. > I may have thought up a way to do it. What we need to do is find everybody who identifies themselves as f

RE: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Tom C
One of my favorite B-movies from the '60's . "Cyborg 2087". A cyborg comes back from the future to stop the research that leads to an implanted device allowing the government to track your every move. Tom C. From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject:

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:09 PM, William Robb wrote: How does one measure zeal? A zealometer. If you have lots, do they give you a zeal of approval? How about making fur coats from zeal pelts? Bob

Re: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Bob Shell
On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Bob W wrote: there's really no need for things like that to be embedded in people - it's very inefficient. Far more efficient just to have people wear a tag of some sort when they enter the workplace if there's a need for tracking like that. That sort of thing

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE How does one measure zeal? A zealometer. If you have lots, do they give you a zeal of approval? WW

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Shell" Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE You mean it's possible to be left of a democrat? In Canada, they are called conservatives. It just gets lefter from there. William Robb

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE Nader made more than a few bucks off those Corvairs. In fact, he made a career off them. I suspect the Pinto helped... I can well imagine he is unpopular with people in and around the auto

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread frank theriault
On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. I raised a few points only to suggest that many of these > religous/political incriminations apply fairly equally across the spectrum. I > am all for giving it a rest. We are in accords, sir. As long as we all remember that wh

RE: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Bob W
> > There are more scarier things that will soon become a (wide > spread!) reality in a few years: > http://news.ft.com/cms/s/ec414700-9bf4-11da-8baa-779e2340.html > there's really no need for things like that to be embedded in people - it's very inefficient. Far more efficient just to have

Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
I agree. I raised a few points only to suggest that many of these religous/political incriminations apply fairly equally across the spectrum. I am all for giving it a rest. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 2/15/06, Bob W <

RE: OT - So you think your details are secure.... :-)

2006-02-15 Thread Jens Bladt
This is very squary, isn't it. Yau wann stop this from happening... Sorry Link out of order! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. februar 2006 21:38 Til: pentax list Emne: OT - So you think your details are secu

Re: PESO - Sick boy

2006-02-15 Thread pnstenquist
Great kid pic. Hope he's feeling better now. Paul -- Original message -- From: DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > One of three sick boys in a row last month... > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=220284 > > DagT >

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