Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
Don Sanderson wrote: > This whole PUG thing is starting to sound like a bunch > of people sitting around watching a man die of thirst. > They all have a glass of water in their hand but all > they do is sit, and wait, expecting someone else to > save the poor guy. Share my water!? > Architecture

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
Bob W wrote: > Architecture is difficult subject to photograph well because often > you're just making a record shot of someone else's work, which can be > rather dull. One of my favourite examples of making a clichéd subject > come alive again is this photo of the Taj Mahal by Steve McCurry: > >

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread skye
I haven't done an indepth study of photo display sites. All I know is, every time I go to photo.net (which happens a lot with all the PESOs), I get slapped with an ad, first thing, at the top of the page. Then after an interminable wait, a photo loads and I get to scroll around to see it. I find fl

Re: PUG POLL?

2006-06-21 Thread John Francis
> A) Frequently couldn't relate to the theme. > R) Other - I rarely get any feedback. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Don, I already submitted one based on Daniel's reminder for July. I will try to post one for August. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 7:02:23 PM, you wrote: DS> This whole PUG thing is starting to sound like a bunch DS> of people sitting around watching a man die of thi

Re: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Got to reply to this. It seems that you are making assumptions about others. I for one, looked long and hard before making any decisions and also bought a DSLR that I could return if it didn't turn out to be a direction that I wanted to go. I had two 67II bodies and a series of lenses in use at

Re: a pdml connect

2006-06-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Great story. It's always wonderful when such things happen. :-) Godfrey On Jun 21, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > We once had a thread about our first cameras. I mentioned that I > bought > mine when I was ten years old from a camera store called Erler's on > 83rd and Stony in Chica

Re: a pdml connect

2006-06-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
So watch what you say. they're watching Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: a pdml connect > We once had a thread about our first cameras. I mentioned that I bought > mine when I was ten years old from a camera store called Erle

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
FWIW, I submit to the PUG whenever I remember & have an image worthy of submission. I solicit comments, good bad or indifferent. If I get comments, so much the better. I very seldom question a negative comment - its only an opinion. I look at all the PUGS but do not comment on every image review

PUG POLL?

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
As a relative newbie here, I suggest this with great trepidation and hesitation... I'm intrigued by the considerable drop in the number of contributions from 2002-2004 to now. I've seen a few people say why they don't contribute, or why they have stopped, but it's a fairly limited group. Perhap

RE: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
OK. However, I reserve the right to be part of the problem at any future time of my own choosing. Architecture is difficult subject to photograph well because often you're just making a record shot of someone else's work, which can be rather dull. One of my favourite examples of making a clichéd s

RE: One last test, and cloud!

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
> Don Sanderson wrote: > > > > Thanks to everyone for the comments and submission suggestions, > > I'll send some to them and see what happens. > > The clouds were photographed by many local residents and made it > > to the news long before I got home to process the RAW files. > > Perhaps I should

Re: Quiz PESO - the answer

2006-06-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
---> I petted some of those guys in Alaska and one was allowed to > harvest what they shed There's a shop in downtown Anchorage, Alaska that sells garments made by the natives of this stuff (Qiviut). Extremely warm, lightweight & very expensive. Kenneth Waller -- Original Message - From:

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr? > >Hi Dave, >>Don't take it to seriously. Some of the most insulting e-mails, like >>those between Bill and Tom, were a spoof. They're pals. And it wouldn't >>be the PDML if someone didn't wallop someone else every

Re: PUG

2006-06-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ann, Ann who? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PUG > Kenneth Waller wrote: >> >> What Tom said. >> >> Kenneth Waller > > > Did Tom say something? Tom who? > > (ann puts in lots of smileys but ducks none the less) >> >

Re: test

2006-06-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
> test Failed! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Gonz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: test > test > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Jun 21, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Okay. I didn't realize you were called upon specifically. I thought you > had a DS as well as your film camera. I do, however I have owned it since March and my entire catalog of digital images is split between paid work that I cannot really

Re: PESO:One more cloud.

2006-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Don Sanderson wrote: > > I went for silhouettes on this one. > I'll spend a lot of time this week trying different things. > RAW files are very cool! ;-) > > Don > Don - your stuff is more compelling than what the news had on here or on the web... You should send them to the Weather Channel post

Re: One last test, and cloud!

2006-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Don Sanderson wrote: > > Thanks to everyone for the comments and submission suggestions, > I'll send some to them and see what happens. > The clouds were photographed by many local residents and made it > to the news long before I got home to process the RAW files. > Perhaps I should have shot a f

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread David Savage
>From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >So, who's willing to be part of the solution, instead of >part of the problem? >Shel, Tom, Frank, Bill, Cotty, Aaron, Adam, Ann, Paul, >Bob, Bob, Bob, Boris, Dave, Bruce, Christian, Don, Marnie, >Jens, Jack, John x4, Joe, Keith, Ken, Mark, Mike, Pet

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Okay. I didn't realize you were called upon specifically. I thought you had a DS as well as your film camera. Perhaps not. I'll grant that scanning, prepping and scaling a film image is a considerable amount of work. I did it for many years, but it was certainly more difficult than prepping a d

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:50 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > So why not just let it pass? Because I was asked, by name, to participate. To simply ignore it would be rude. As to only taking a few minutes to prep an image, I'm glad your scanner is so very, very fast. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

RE: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Don Sanderson
Good for you Paul, architecture should be right up your alley. I have no clue where to start but as of tomorrow it becomes my current photo "project" until I get something I feel is worthy for submission. Hell, I'll probably even learn something! ;-) Don > -Original Message- > From: [EMAI

RE: PESO:One more cloud.

2006-06-21 Thread Don Sanderson
Actually, according to the weatherman, these did not foretell any bad weather at all! It was a "ribbon" of cool air sandwiched between two layers of warmer air. A lot of moisture was trapped between these layers and formed the clouds you see. About 30 minutes after these were taken it became a beau

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
So why not just let it pass? A lot of us are pretty damn busy, shooting for commercial purposes and working at all manner of other things. But it only takes a few minutes to prep a PUG photo. If you don't want to do that, it's okay. But it's not worth mentioning. Paul On Jun 21, 2006, at 10:43 P

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'll be there. I probably have one of longest lists of PUG submissions extant. I held back in recent months due to PESO and some irritating problems I've recently encountered when submitting. It seems the image sometimes has to be WELL under 75 K for the software to acknowledge that it's okay.

Re: PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds
I appreciate the effort, but as I said I do not have the time or inclination. People who want to see my work can see new stuff every weekday anyways. Plus, I have enough ongoing projects -- I just don't have the time to shoot something for this or to scour my transparencies for something old to

Re: any PDMLers in Austin?

2006-06-21 Thread Amita Guha
Thanks for the information! Let me know if you want to do an Austin PDML or grab a drink or something. Amita On 6/21/06, John Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Austin prides itself on being weird and the only "BLUE" county in Texas > (you-know-who couldn't get elected to dog catcher here). Aust

Re: any PDMLers in Austin?

2006-06-21 Thread Amita Guha
Does anyone have ERN's email address? I didn't realize she'd left the list and I don't have any of her old emails. Thanks, Amita On 6/21/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > (...) > > >> ERN is in TX, but no longer on list. > >> > >> Mar

Re: PESO:One more cloud.

2006-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Don Sanderson wrote: > > Not quite so heavy handed a conversion: > > http://www.dsanderson.com/4.jpg > > Don > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net So how far were you from an actual tornado touch down? I saw clouds like this in

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
Flickr is not my favorite either. I find the way it presents images to be distracting and annoying. It's been a while since I've been on it. It would be suitable for a photo sharing site, but not a gallery in my opinion. I'm trying to make that distinction over and over again... photo sharing

RE: a pdml connect

2006-06-21 Thread Don Sanderson
THAT is very cool! Don > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 8:44 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: a pdml connect > > > We once had a thread about our first cameras. I mentioned th

Re: PESO:The sky really IS falling!

2006-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Don Sanderson wrote: > > What would you think if you looked out the window and saw these: > > http://www.dsanderson.com/clouds.htm > > Lasted about 45 minutes and then, a nice sunny day. > Had a lot of people very worried for a bit. > These are really Q&D RAW conversions, I'll work > on them and

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
>Hi Dave, >Don't take it to seriously. Some of the most insulting e-mails, like >those between Bill and Tom, were a spoof. They're pals. And it wouldn't >be the PDML if someone didn't wallop someone else every now and then. >Paul Correctamundo! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net ht

PUG Challenge!

2006-06-21 Thread Don Sanderson
This whole PUG thing is starting to sound like a bunch of people sitting around watching a man die of thirst. They all have a glass of water in their hand but all they do is sit, and wait, expecting someone else to save the poor guy. August: Architecture Deadline for Submissions: July 20, 2006 Th

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
Flickr is not my favorite either. I find the way it presents images to be distracting and annoying. It's been a while since I've been on it. It would be suitable for a photo sharing site, but not a gallery in my opinion. I'm trying to make that distinction over and over again... photo sharing

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
No, but your photo may be. :-) Tom C. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: July PUG deadline today >Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:11:00 US/Eastern > > > I would like everyone to submit.

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
> > >Having come back from such a layed baack place like GFM to this new PDML, a >pile of snarky insulting emails, i'll add that i agree wirth Cotty, Please >keep the Pug. > >For those that cannt read between the lines, see you. > >I want to learn about photography,not the crap that seems to be t

my friend Flick'r

2006-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Michael, this is very weird - My mail thing wouldn't let me hit reply when I got this email and stayed in a "you haven't read me" mode even though I had read it. This was true with two of your posts... I had to cut and paste and start new mail to include it. anyway - I dont remember whose pic I

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I would like everyone to submit. > Some have previously opined that > > they neither submit not comment because the PUG attracts low-quality > > work. > > But if i submit what i think is a great photo, and no one else does,

Re: PUG

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
Keith McGuinness wrote: > Average number over that time is about 20 (20.04). > > There is NO significant downward trend in contributions over this one > year period. > > Numbers are almost certainly down from times earlier (probably due, as > others have said, to more PESO and PAW) but I don't

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread David Savage
Flickr , of all photo hosting sites I find it to be the most annoying to view images on. IMO If you want to kill the PUG & everything it stands for, host it on Flickr ;-) Dave At 08:51 AM 22/06/2006, Michael wrote: >By mentioning Flickr, I certainly didn't want anyone to consider that I was >

a pdml connect

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
We once had a thread about our first cameras. I mentioned that I bought mine when I was ten years old from a camera store called Erler's on 83rd and Stony in Chicago. Tonight I received the following message. Small world. Paul My name is Sandra Lechner and my maiden name is Erler. I was doi

RE: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bob, I think you're painting a generalization with way too broad a brush. Taking the PDML, for example, there were some early adapters ~of the Pentax DSLR~ and a lot of people hung back, waiting to see how things would shake out while assessing their needs and desire. Many had been playing wi

Re: PUG

2006-06-21 Thread gibikote
one thing we can expect as a result of this is discussion is more contributions in the coming months. yay! Sridhar - Original Message - >>> It is an unfortunate fact that the PUG is slowly dying. >> >> Actually, if it is dying, it is a VERY SLOW process. >> >> Here are counts for the la

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread brooksdj
> I would like everyone to submit. Some have previously opined that > they neither submit not comment because the PUG attracts low-quality > work. But if i submit what i think is a great photo, and no one else does, am i crap, Noone has addressed that N

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Dave, Don't take it to seriously. Some of the most insulting e-mails, like those between Bill and Tom, were a spoof. They're pals. And it wouldn't be the PDML if someone didn't wallop someone else every now and then. Paul > l > Adelheid, if you're reading this thread, please don't despair. Th

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Michael C. Gaudet
By mentioning Flickr, I certainly didn't want anyone to consider that I was advocating strict competition for PUG. It's just a tool that I use and that I think could be helpful for Adelheid, if she so chooses. I mean, Flickr is pretty fun the way everyone can link to one another everywhere. As for

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
John Forbes wrote: > And my comment about it slowly dying was as much to do with the lack of > comment on the PUG submissions here in the forum as it was about the > quality and quantity of those submissions. A PUG which attracts more and > better pictures, and more discussion, will make Ade

Re: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
Bob W wrote: > It seems to me that if more people had given it this kind of > consideration film would not be dying. Inside they have allowed > themselves to be herded by the electronics manufacturers who have an > interest in short product cycles which trap customers into frequent > high-dollar re

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Dave Brooks
Adelheid, if you're reading this thread, please don't despair. There's only one PUG, and I for one would appreciate it even if there was only one contribution a month. It would still be alive with that single picture. Go PUG! -- Cheers, Cotty Having come back from such a layed baack p

Re: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/14/2006 3:57:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I ~think~ may be happening is that the shutter release button on the Pentax, and many other cameras, is rather low, not as protrusive, as on the Leicas and the earlier manual cameras that we're most used

Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows users ...

2006-06-21 Thread David Savage
Thanks for the heads up. Dave On 6/21/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adobe is now providing notification for Lightroom on Windows ... > interested parties can sign up and be told when it comes available. > >http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm? > name=lightroom_win

RE: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tom C > Sent: 21 June 2006 23:59 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: RE: July PUG deadline today > > They were used! Most of the trite ones were mine, I'm proud to say. > You must be one of those people

RE: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
as far as I remember there have been 2-3 requests for suggestions, which gained quite an enthusiastic response. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff > Sent: 22 June 2006 00:09 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: PUG

2006-06-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Keith McGuinness" Subject: Re: PUG > John Forbes wrote: >> It is an unfortunate fact that the PUG is slowly dying. > > Actually, if it is dying, it is a VERY SLOW process. > > Here are counts for the last year (themed and open): > > Year Month Number > 2005 J

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:58:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To begin with, I'm not a pompous, self important faggot. WW === True, you're not a faggot. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread John Forbes
I second that. My comments had absolutely nothing to do with Adelheid's selfless work. I just wished to spark some discussion about how to make the PUG more popular. And my comment about it slowly dying was as much to do with the lack of comment on the PUG submissions here in the forum as

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/21/2006 4:17:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They were used! Most of the trite ones were mine, I'm proud to say. Tom C. === Yeah, I think at least one of mine was used. Although I don't remember if I was the first one to suggest it. I think qu

RE: One last test, and cloud!

2006-06-21 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Shel, Frank and Mark. To be honest I didn't notice that the light was on till I reviewed the shot. There was too much to look at and too little time to do it. Don > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Mark Roberts > Sent: Wednesday, Ju

Re: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 21, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Bob W wrote: > For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not rejecting it or being grumpy. I'm > finding out about it with a view to making a fairly rational decision. > It seems to me that the difference between my approach and the > approach taken by most of the people I know

RE: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
And what about subsequent years? I only recall one request for suggestions. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Tom C > They were used! Most of the trite ones were mine, I'm proud to say. > >I'd agree about the themes to some extent, but what I'd like to know is who > >determines the themes

RE: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
They were used! Most of the trite ones were mine, I'm proud to say. Tom C. >From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: RE: July PUG deadline today >Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:44:18 -0700 > >I'd agree about the

Re: K10D Tidbits

2006-06-21 Thread Cotty
>> >> > WHAT?! Pentax kills whales? Why? >> >> > News to me... >> >> >> >> It needs skin that big to cover the 67. >> >> >> > >> >I thought they used genuine-style faux whalette. >> >> I prefer a minke stole. > >Will you and your minke get out of here ... I think John's got the humpback ! --

Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0

2006-06-21 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/21/2006 3:07:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > From: Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save > the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the > RAW originals away some

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
What's the deal Cotty? This is not a debate or referendum on Adelheid's management of the PUG. She's done an excellent job. This is a debate as to the nature of the PUG itself, and whether it should be a high quality gallery showcasing the best participants have to offer or whether it should

RE: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
> Personally, I'd rather accept what's happening and enjoy it than > reject it and be grumpy. I like doing photography, and I don't mean > mixing chemistry and trying to reinvent film emulsions, reminiscing > about how good it used to be when The Great Yellow Father was in its > heyday. > Fo

Re: One last test, and cloud!

2006-06-21 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: >On 6/20/06, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.dsanderson.com/onemore.htm >> >> A little different from the others. > >Those are scary-ass clouds. Love the streetlamp in this one! > >Great shot. The street lamp and the barely-discernable road snaking t

Re: Quiz PESO - the answer

2006-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jostein wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who contributed here, it was basically meant as a > heads-up for the coming PUG. > > Here's another shot of the same subject: > http://www.oksne.net/paw/moskus.html > > As mentioned in the text on the link above, there were a bundle of > nature photographers

Re: K10D Tidbits

2006-06-21 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 11:13:51PM +0100, Cotty wrote: > O > > >> > > >> > WHAT?! Pentax kills whales? Why? > >> > News to me... > >> > >> It needs skin that big to cover the 67. > >> > > > >I thought they used genuine-style faux whalette. > > I prefer a minke stole. Will you and your minke g

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Tom C wrote: > > WIth photo.net one could just create a new presentation for the next theme. > Photos would be totally separated and not seen together. I have no idea > what other functionality it has or lacks compared to Flickr. > > Tom C. > I only have one quarrel with photo.net - it sticks

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On 6/21/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adelheid, if you're reading this thread, please don't despair. There's > only one PUG, and I for one would appreciate it even if there was only > one contribution a month. It would still be alive with that single > picture. Go PUG! > -- Well said, Cot

Re: PUG/PESO ...at Flickr?

2006-06-21 Thread Cotty
Adelheid, if you're reading this thread, please don't despair. There's only one PUG, and I for one would appreciate it even if there was only one contribution a month. It would still be alive with that single picture. Go PUG! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 21, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Bob W wrote: > ... Whatever it has given me, is it so much better than what I have > with > film that it justifies all that cost and time? ... This is like a slide I saw in the movie about global warming, "An Inconvenient Truth". A government agency put up a sli

RE: K10D Tidbits

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Cotty > Sent: 21 June 2006 23:14 > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: K10D Tidbits > > O > > >> > > >> > WHAT?! Pentax kills whales? Why? > >> > News to me... > >> > >> It needs skin that big to cover t

Re: any PDMLers in Austin?

2006-06-21 Thread John Munro
Austin prides itself on being weird and the only "BLUE" county in Texas (you-know-who couldn't get elected to dog catcher here). Austin bills itself as "the live music capital" and "the bat city" - there's a pretty fair selection of c&w, rock-a-billy, rock, folk, and even progressive jazz plus m

Re: K10D Tidbits

2006-06-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/6/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >The oil is the finest lubricant known to man... Eugh!! Filthy sod ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Ma

Re: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 21, 2006, at 2:44 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Plus, we all know that real photographers use Leica M series... I'll be real happy when the Leica M Digital gets released later this year or next, yeah! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pd

RE: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
> On 6/21/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . Right now it looks as > > though I could spend an awful lot of time and effort, and > be no better > > off than I am now. > > > > Plus, we all know that real photographers use Leica M series... > > > > cheers, > the luddite > Apparently a lo

Re: K10D Tidbits

2006-06-21 Thread P. J. Alling
The oil is the finest lubricant known to man... keith_w wrote: >Don Williams wrote: > > >>All this reminds me of the incredible speculation preceding the >>appearance on the market of the *ist D. The only thing I have against >>that camera now is its bloody stupid name. And, of course, I'm ag

Re: K10D Tidbits

2006-06-21 Thread Cotty
O >> > >> > WHAT?! Pentax kills whales? Why? >> > News to me... >> >> It needs skin that big to cover the 67. >> > >I thought they used genuine-style faux whalette. I prefer a minke stole. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysn

Re: A quiz PESO

2006-06-21 Thread Cotty
On 22/6/06, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: >> http://www.oksne.net/paw/quiz.html > >Must be Cotty's hairpiece. It looks dis-comb-ulated. LOL!! Cheeky Kiwi !! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com ___

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 21, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote: >>> But if you want to look at ALL the photos in the gallery you do >>> have to download ALL the full resolution files... >> >> That's at your option. If the work is compelling enough to be worth >> the time, you do it. If not, you don't. I'd mu

Re: Managing all these RAW files with Photoshop Elements 4.0

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
> From: Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So what do you all do? Convert them all in a batch and just save > the converted versions as high quality photoshop files? Do you put the > RAW originals away somewhere, out of Elements 4.0? Just an amateur... I convert all and put them in a structure

RE: PESO:One more cloud.

2006-06-21 Thread Don Sanderson
Cedar Rapids, Iowa USA First time anyone has seen such a thing around here. Don > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Russell Kerstetter > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:30 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO:One more clou

Re: PUG

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
>From: Keith McGuinness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >John Forbes wrote: > > If it is meant to be a showcase, why not have a panel of judges to >select > > the 50 best PAWs and PESOs each month, and then put them into a gallery? > > Irfanview can produce a suitable gallery with thumnnails at the press of

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 21, 2006, at 11:49 AM, William Robb wrote: >> If you don't want to listen to what I have to say, put me in your >> kill file, filter my posts to the garbage. I don't care and I'm not >> offended by that. If you do want to listen, don't complain about "how >> I come across" ... obviously, i

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 21, 2006, at 11:46 AM, William Robb wrote: >> odfrey, no one is ever going to confuse you with Wheatfield Willie. > > To begin with, I'm not a pompous, self important faggot. That's true. You're much worse than that. At least I have the redeeming qualities of being a faggot. Godfrey June

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
Tom C wrote: > Actually those were some of my favorites... > > Tom Trite Mine too. Can't say more; have to go or I will be late for kindy and have to stand in the corner until recess. Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread frank theriault
On 6/21/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . Right now it looks as > though I could spend an awful lot of time and effort, and be no better > off than I am now. > Plus, we all know that real photographers use Leica M series... cheers, the luddite -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -He

Re: PUG

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
John Forbes wrote: > If it is meant to be a showcase, why not have a panel of judges to select > the 50 best PAWs and PESOs each month, and then put them into a gallery? > Irfanview can produce a suitable gallery with thumnnails at the press of a > button, so there is little work involved.

RE: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
Shel, Let's assume that I am on a photographic trip somewhere for 4 weeks. This is perfectly realistic because I've done it several times in the past, and intend to do it again. I need enough cards to cover me for a day's shooting. With this camera that's about 3 Gb, although I'd be more comfort

Re: PESO:The sky really IS falling!

2006-06-21 Thread Pancho Hasselbach
Cl! Clouds around here are boring most of the time, seldom enough something halfway interesting. Never ever like this. Thanks for sharing! Pancho Don Sanderson schrieb: > What would you think if you looked out the window and saw these: > > http://www.dsanderson.com/clouds.htm > > Lasted

Re: PUG

2006-06-21 Thread Keith McGuinness
John Forbes wrote: > It is an unfortunate fact that the PUG is slowly dying. Actually, if it is dying, it is a VERY SLOW process. Here are counts for the last year (themed and open): YearMonth Number 2005July21 2005August 19 2005September 17 2

Re: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I would like everyone to submit. Some have previously opined that they neither submit not comment because the PUG attracts low-quality work. If they feel that way, there is nothing I can say to change their minds. I would, however, prefer if the better photographers would submit good work, to se

RE: K10D Tidbits

2006-06-21 Thread Bob W
> > > > > > WHAT?! Pentax kills whales? Why? > > News to me... > > It needs skin that big to cover the 67. > I thought they used genuine-style faux whalette. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: loooooooong distance remote or IR release

2006-06-21 Thread mike wilson
Aaron Reynolds wrote: > On Jun 21, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > > >>I believe those 'remote' modes only affect the wireless remote and not >>the wired remote. > > > Yep -- and I'm curious to know what the delay time is with the wireless > remote, which apparently has a 250 foot range

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2006-06-21 Thread Gonz
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Re: PUG

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
Ha! Keep looking over your shoulder... :-) Tom C. > > Did Tom say something? Tom who? > >(ann puts in lots of smileys but ducks none the less) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: July PUG deadline today

2006-06-21 Thread Tom C
Actually those were some of my favorites... Tom Trite >From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" >Subject: RE: July PUG deadline today >Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:25:54 +0100 > > > > > Since you seem to have missed my post to Go

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