Re: Black on black

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/13/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage It needs one of the black limited lenses fitted. I recommend the 31mm. :-) Like this? http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/i_suck/k1031.html Yes. That's a sweet looking combination. :-)

Re: Re: K10D at 'The Online Photographer'

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
For those who don't frequent DPR, this is an interesting video of the K100D's SR ina action: http://pixinfo.com/img/Pentax/K100D/a/CCD_shift.mpg Dave On 12/13/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/12/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL

Re: K10D at 'The Online Photographer'

2006-12-13 Thread DagT
It does rotate a little, thanks! DagT Den 13. des. 2006 kl. 09.42 skrev David Savage: For those who don't frequent DPR, this is an interesting video of the K100D's SR ina action: http://pixinfo.com/img/Pentax/K100D/a/CCD_shift.mpg Dave On 12/13/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL

Re: Request for photos

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/12 Tue PM 11:46:55 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Request for photos In that case it was an e-mail that took over two weeks to reach my inbox, because I just received it Sunday night. I went back and looked at the headers and it was

Re: K10D at 'The Online Photographer'

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Loveday
For those who don't frequent DPR, this is an interesting video of the K100D's SR ina action: http://pixinfo.com/img/Pentax/K100D/a/CCD_shift.mpg Dave Interesting, thanks for the link. I've just been playing with my K10D a little, set on 15sec exposure with no lens to see the sensor move.

ACR and K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Walter Hamler
Joe, I just tried again with 3.6. It would allow me to open, manipulate, save again as a dng file and then it would allow me to open to PE 4.0. Then I saved it as a png file, and reopened the png file. However, when I tried to open the newly saved dng file it would open to ACR but would not

Re: K10D in Israel

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/13 Wed AM 12:14:18 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D in Israel Hi Rob, Bit of a premium to get it to Israel, eh? more precisely it's premium to get it _anywhere_ outside of the USA. Price here in the

Re: street (random) portraits, my 2¢

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/13/06, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060820100454 ^^^ Just my 2¢ for what year 2006 was... quite nice, no? Doesn't do anything for me...in any way. But, thanks for posting it. SOMEbody might be interested. ;-) Another poor soul

Re: backup K10D or ... ?

2006-12-13 Thread Jostein Øksne
Ops, sorry. My question wasn't very well phrased. With just one lens reversed (eg. with bellows), it doesn't matter what kind of lens you use, since there's no communciation between the camera and lens. My query was for using two lenses. For example a 200mm and a reversed 50mm stacked via the

Re: K10D in Israel

2006-12-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, mike wilson wrote: Well, the camera is about 1/3rd cheaper in the US than the cheapest UK price. By the time you have added duty, postage and VAT it will be about the same, I suspect. The advantage being that US stockists have some to sell. Last time I checked,

Re: PESO: Girls, Girls, Girls

2006-12-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
That came later. I was wondering if someone was going to pick up on that. Paul On Dec 13, 2006, at 1:45 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Another pic from the wedding shoot: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5321317size=lg K10D, DA 16-45, f4.5, 1/25th, ISO 100, flash

Re: K10D in Israel

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/13 Wed AM 10:42:09 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D in Israel On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, mike wilson wrote: Well, the camera is about 1/3rd cheaper in the US than the cheapest UK price. By the

Re: K10D in Israel

2006-12-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, mike wilson wrote: Don't get me wrong, Kostas. _I'm_ not interested in buying one. 8-))) Who cares; what does the wife say? Kostas :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax right angle viewer

2006-12-13 Thread Perry Pellechia
I bought a cheapo third party K series right angle finder. Its mounting clip was too small to fit the D, but it was nothing a little filing could not fix. If you do not care that it is a little loose on the older camera then it is easy to get the finder working on the D series or K series DSLRs.

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I didn't say no processing was done. You did. It was stated in one of the interviews with the engineers that Ken translated that they took opportunities to do signal processing due to the 22bit A-D that were not otherwise feasible. ... *before*. The common thought previously was that

Re: PESO: Post-impressionist's motorcycle

2006-12-13 Thread SJ
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:21:01 +1300 David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 13, 2006, at 1:55 AM, SJ wrote: funnily enough :) the same thing happens with me too. can't ever access robertstech.com from home but no problems at the workplace... It times out for me, but my ISP doesn't

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
If Pentax are using the Nucore NDX-2240 AFE on the front end of their PRIME Image Processor (which hasn't been denied and was rumored to be confirmed) the it provides what they deem as a color sensitive PGA prior to the input to the 22 bit ADC. You can read up more here:

Re: backup K10D or ... ?

2006-12-13 Thread Perry Pellechia
I never not tried these type of combinations so I am not sure I can help. However, can't you take the lens off the A position and fool the camera to not use the focal distance? On 12/13/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ops, sorry. My question wasn't very well phrased. With just one

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/12/06, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That flies in the face of the idea that one can, shoot in RAW and not worry about WB and other color settings. The idea that RAW data is unaltered by WB settings etc isn't a rule it was just a convention that was taken for granted when

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On 13/12/06, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, for example, if one were to apply a cloudy WB vs. a tungsten WB, the red channel gain would likely be at least a bit (i.e. f-stop) or two different. It makes sense to chose a different dynamic range for each channel based on

RE: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Davis
Perfect solution! =) Jack --- Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding a film look to ones photographs can easily be done (at the present moment) - by using film. These were - of course - done more than 30 years ago: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594413264675/show/ Regards

Re: Request for photos

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:46 PM, Tom C wrote: Oh well, it show hows unprofessional the whole thing might have been. I was being given less than 24 hours notice before she needed to have the material completed. Happens all the time. I had three people request usage

Re: backup K10D or ... ?

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
The contact that transmits lens data is independent of the A contact.. Otherwise I would be able to manually set the SR focal length on the K10D. Adding the 1.7x AF adapter to any FA lens tricks the camera though. Dave On 12/13/06, Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never not tried

Re: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
I don't think they trying to make digital images look like film, rather they're goal is to try and have the high ISO digital noise look more like grain as opposed to pixels. Dave On 12/13/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax engineers (and others) refer to a desirable digital image

Re: PESO: Post-impressionist's motorcycle

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
David Mann wrote: On Dec 13, 2006, at 1:55 AM, SJ wrote: funnily enough :) the same thing happens with me too. can't ever access robertstech.com from home but no problems at the workplace... It times out for me, but my ISP doesn't exactly have the best reputation so it's probably been

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/12/06, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this whole discussion pedantic? :) Quite. What I *meant* to say was the the per-channel transfer function from input to output is a function of WB and colorspace. Once the output has to be truncated to 12-bits,

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread John Whittingham
Bottom line: It was better to filter out (via the lens filter) the light that would blow out a single channel (like blue on an overcast day or red for a sunset) and then increase the exposure to bring *all* the levels up. Quantifiably less noise in the lower- level channels by

Re: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, David Savage wrote: I don't think they trying to make digital images look like film, rather they're goal is to try and have the high ISO digital noise look more like grain as opposed to pixels. That's what I read in Ken's translation: film-grain-like noise. Kostas --

Re: Pentax right angle viewer

2006-12-13 Thread John Whittingham
Does anybody know if the old Spotmatic era right angle magnified viewer will fit the K10D? No, but if you remove the fitting that attaches to the viewfinder (four screws) and substitute the back of eyecup 'M' (filed down flat) and superglue it in place it will fit all viewfinders after 'M'

Re: Pentax right angle viewer

2006-12-13 Thread Carlos Royo
Bill Lawlor escribió: Does anybody know if the old Spotmatic era right angle magnified viewer will fit the K10D? Thanks, Bill Lawlor You need an M or A Refconverter. The Spotmatic one will not fit. There is also a Chinese made refconverter (Seagull) which is said to fit Pentax and

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
What I *meant* to say was the the per-channel transfer function from input to output is a function of WB and colorspace. Once the output has to be truncated to 12-bits, those parameters now affect the output dynamic range. However if the linear data has been subjected to some

RE: Pentax right angle viewer

2006-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Dont you mean the EYEPIECE where the viewfinder attachments connect is different size, not the viewfinder size itself? I wouldnt even call one smaller or larger, they are about the same area, the spotmatic one is not as wide but taller, while the M series and later is wider but not as tall. jco

Re: Request for photos

2006-12-13 Thread ann sanfedele
oops I thought she wrote the letter in December um I confess i didnt respond to the number 7.12.2006 as a date when skimming. sorry mike -- my glasses are clean but my mind isnt ann :) mike wilson wrote: Tom C wrote: I figure she made a typo somewhere. I need to finish

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Hail , Cesar! I'm barely lurking myself - I am remembering that you are a co-Sagitarian but can't remember the date. Happy Birthday anyway :) regarding the TV nuptuals - I thought I remembered there being a number 8. note I have a new email addie - hope to see you sometime on one of your

Re: K10D in Israel

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 12:20:26 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D in Israel On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, mike wilson wrote: Don't get me wrong, Kostas. _I'm_ not interested in buying one. 8-))) Who cares; what

Re: PESO: Girls, Girls, Girls

2006-12-13 Thread Rick Womer
Nice, Paul! I like the way you used bounce flash but were able to avoid raccoon eyes or a bright white ceiling. How did you do that? Rick --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another pic from the wedding shoot: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5321317size=lg K10D, DA

Re: Pentax right angle viewer

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Carlos Royo wrote: Does anybody know if the old Spotmatic era right angle magnified viewer will fit the K10D? You need an M or A Refconverter. The Spotmatic one will not fit. There is also a Chinese made refconverter (Seagull) which is said to fit Pentax and

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I did the same thing, Cory, and found no practical difference in the results. I've not suffered from excessive noise in any event ... G On Dec 13, 2006, at 5:28 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: It's not pure speculation. When I first got my -DS, I dove into the color management and white

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/7tv.msnw Damndest rugby photos I've ever seen! (Seems the game isn't as rough as it used to be...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Davis
As long as PS allows me to effectively reduce objectionable levels of grain (film like), I'll be fine. Jack --- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, David Savage wrote: I don't think they trying to make digital images look like film, rather they're goal is to

Re: Request for photos

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 02:50:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Request for photos oops I thought she wrote the letter in December um I confess i didnt respond to the number 7.12.2006 as a date when skimming.

Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here)

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 12, 2006, at 11:25 PM, David Mann wrote: I've also seen some funky old motorcycles that have an in-hub engine. Not to mention those crazy contraptions where the rider sits inside the wheel. I forget the name of that one. It had a 7 cylinder radial engine in the front wheel ... talk

Re: PESO: Girls, Girls, Girls

2006-12-13 Thread P. J. Alling
I just knew someone would point this out. Doug Franklin wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Another pic from the wedding shoot: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5321317size=lg K10D, DA 16-45, f4.5, 1/25th, ISO 100, flash bounced off the ceiling Wedding 69? None of them are

Re: PESO: Girls, Girls, Girls

2006-12-13 Thread pnstenquist
I shot this with a Lumiquest Omnibounce attached to the head of the flash and the head tilted to a straight up position. This bounces the majority of the light off the surface of the reflector, but also spills some light onto the ceiling, which softens the look. Paul -- Original

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 03:55:56 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: TV 7's wedding... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/7tv.msnw Damndest rugby photos I've ever seen! (Seems the game isn't

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I did the same thing, Cory, and found no practical difference in the results. I've not suffered from excessive noise in any event ... I didn't say practical... I said quantifiable. Revert to previous post about this being a pedantic discussion... :) --

Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier panorama I started working on in July. http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/4/ Comments welcome. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA

Re: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread graywolf
Luckily we can adjust that in Photoshop. It does help some. J. C. O'Connell wrote: But the look is similar. I forgot to post that in either of these cases the film grain is NOT an issue. Its more the tonal range captured and the look of the extreme highlights. Film captures more but the

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Tom C
Very Nice! Tom C. From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Another Panorama PESO... Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:19:40 -0500 (EST) Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier panorama I started

Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here)

2006-12-13 Thread K.Takeshita
On 12/13/06 11:07 AM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/strange_vehicles/ mclean_v8_monowheel.html Pretty cool looking ... silly as all heck though. Ever seen one try to emergency brake? 8- I saw just that in one of those Amazing Video

Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here)

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 03:51:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here) On Dec 12, 2006, at 11:25 PM, David Mann wrote: I've also seen some funky old motorcycles that have

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 12/13/06, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier panorama I started working on in July. http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/4/ Comments welcome. Specutacular! I see the glacier is ending into a lake or fjord which

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread pnstenquist
Gorgeous. Excellent work. I'd love to see a ten-foot long print. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier panorama I started working on in July.

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier panorama I started working on in July. http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/4/ Nice job! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here)

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 8:07 AM, mike wilson wrote: I forget the name of that one. It had a 7 cylinder radial engine in the front wheel ... talk about heavy steering, eh? ;-) There were a number; Singer was one of the most popular but that only had a single cylinder engine. The one you are

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/7tv.msnw Damndest rugby photos I've ever seen! (Seems the game isn't as rough as it used to be...) It was a place before it was a game. I know, I used to live

RE: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You may be able to undo the knee on the film captures but its going to be impossible to undo the clipping on the digital capture when the dynamic range of the scene exceeds the digital system's (sensor) recording capability. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:28:30AM -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote: ... *before*. The common thought previously was that RAW provided unaltered A/D data of the sensor. That may or may not have been true, but at least it *could* have been. Now with truncation necessary, it *cannot* be

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Scott Loveless
On 12/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/7tv.msnw Damndest rugby photos I've ever seen! (Seems the game isn't as rough as it used to be...) It was a

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gorgeous. Excellent work. I'd love to see a ten-foot long print. Paul Thanks... that's why I've been trying to finish it up... to make prints for the family. The ones I'm giving away I printed at 8x52 at 466 dpi. What's the

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
... *before*. The common thought previously was that RAW provided unaltered A/D data of the sensor. That may or may not have been true, but at least it *could* have been. Now with truncation necessary, it *cannot* be true that a RAW file contains unaltered digitzed sensor data. You

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread P. J. Alling
If he's smart, he has his turned off at 2AM. (Have you ever gotten good news, at 2AM? I thought not.) Scott Loveless wrote: On 12/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I see the glacier is ending into a lake or fjord which gives a good perspective. Nice; Technically, it's a lake on the right. Drains right into the ocean a couple miles away. The water on the left is the ocean. --

Re: K10D at 'The Online Photographer'

2006-12-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 13, 2006, at 2:42, David Savage wrote: For those who don't frequent DPR, this is an interesting video of the K100D's SR ina action: http://pixinfo.com/img/Pentax/K100D/a/CCD_shift.mpg I had to remove the trailing space from your link to get it to work - but once I did that: That

Re: PESO: Girls, Girls, Girls

2006-12-13 Thread Rick Womer
Aha! I've got one of those--makes the camera look really imposing and works pretty well too. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot this with a Lumiquest Omnibounce attached to the head of the flash and the head tilted to a straight up position. This bounces the majority of the light

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! G'day All, Not a true PESO, just a silly shot I took while goofing around: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/_IGP0547.jpg Pentax K10D, FA 100mm f2.8 Macro with 1.7x AF Adapter, 1/180 @ f10, ISO 1600, AF-540 FGZ flash. Dave, I definitely disagree with the sentiment here,

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Cesar, if you have a chance - please pass to Tom my congratulations. That of course, unless he is reading the list or archives ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: New (old stock) Pentax DSLR kits even lower prices?

2006-12-13 Thread John Whittingham
From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: New (old stock) Pentax DSLR kits even lower prices? NO, my point is they are essentially worthless once you get better model IN HAND because it's just plain dumb to keep using your old inferior DSLR camera when you have **already got** a

Re: my first shots with the Pentax K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Can you please elaborate further about the improvement over the DS part? - more pixel resolution - more dynamic range Har! Now, kind sir, will you please tell me what kind of improvement in dynamic range you observe so far? I have not done quantified

Re: Pentax F 50mm f/1.4 is same lens of FA 50mm f/1.4 or a differentglass?

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Lacus
Adam, Even SMC coating technology has been continuously updated over the years, as improved production technology has become available. As good as SMC was at inctroduction, it's better now. this is not necessarily true - may be just as good but cheaper to manufacture, for example. Actually

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: ... *before*. The common thought previously was that RAW provided unaltered A/D data of the sensor. That may or may not have been true, but at least it *could* have been. Now with truncation necessary, it *cannot* be true that a

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Especially if it's Norm on the other end. On 12/13/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he's smart, he has his turned off at 2AM. (Have you ever gotten good news, at 2AM? I thought not.) Scott Loveless wrote: On 12/13/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike wilson

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gorgeous. Excellent work. I'd love to see a ten-foot long print. Paul Thanks... that's why I've been trying to finish it up... to make prints for the family. The ones I'm giving away I

Re: PESO - Motherly Kiss

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Lacus
http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=15884 I generally refrain from publishing a shot that is obviously made in the zoo, but this time I'll made an exception. very nice 'street' photo, Boris. I like it very much. Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: New (old stock) Pentax DSLR kits even lower prices?

2006-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I guess you missed my earlier post(s), I stated its worthless to someone who's aleady got a better body in hand because they are not really going to want to use it anymore, and I also posted that these are selling brand new kits for less than what you quoted (also on ebay) so lone buyer does not

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Of course it doesn't. What it *does* allow for is a different gain for the three different channels for wider dynamic range. That gain is a function of settings like colorspace and white balance. Or it might not be anything user adjustable at all. You're making assumptions here.

Re: K10D in Israel

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Lacus
Kostas, Last time I checked, digital cameras were exempt of duty, but that was a couple of years ago. The killer is VAT; have you checked prices in Europe? Warranty may also be more straightforward, I don't know, but in general sending something out to be fixed/replaced may be an issue.

Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I decided to add the performance testing I did with the K10D to the page I did on the *ist DS bodies last July. Updated and QuickTime movies of the capture included ... you can see how the cameras' buffer size and write speed to the cards affects the distribution of sequence captures

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Of course it doesn't. What it *does* allow for is a different gain for the three different channels for wider dynamic range. That gain is a function of settings like colorspace and white balance. Or it might not be anything user

Re: OT Another sad Photographers rights story

2006-12-13 Thread Norm Baugher
They thought the Hasselblad was some sort of trick camera because they couldn't find a display screen, he said. They wouldn't believe it wasn't a digital camera. That cracks me up... Norm Digital Image Studio wrote: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20895457-5006784,00.html

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hey, big congrats from me too! I met TvV (aka Gateboy) at GFM in 2004. Was that is last appearance there? Jostein On 12/13/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Cesar, if you have a chance - please pass to Tom my congratulations. That of course, unless he is reading the list or

Re: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread Jostein Øksne
I take it you never shot slide film, JCO. I did, and the dynamic range of the *istD was a welcome increase. Jostein On 12/13/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may be able to undo the knee on the film captures but its going to be impossible to undo the clipping on the digital

RE: street (random) portraits, my 2¢

2006-12-13 Thread Bob W
Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060820100454 ^^^ Just my 2¢ for what year 2006 was... quite nice, no? Doesn't do anything for me...in any way. But, thanks for posting it. SOMEbody might be interested. ;-) Another poor soul with a tampon stuck in his ear.

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ - A valuable test, Godfrey. Interesting that with the K10D the 150x gives so little improvement over the 60x. Is the difference due to different brands of card? Or is 150x overkill for the K10D? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Jostein Øksne
Mark R. wrote: Trivia: Approximately 1% of women have tetrachromatic color vision - that is, four different types of cone cells in their retinas - and can see a vastly broader gamut than normal people. Exactly 0% of men have this ability; you need two X chromasomes to get it. Add their

Re: BH's weird ordering blackouts

2006-12-13 Thread Norm Baugher
I refer to the store as Temple BH... Norm gfen wrote: snip As to BH being an interesting sight, you're right. When I first went there, it reminded me of what the North Pole might look like if the elves were all Orthodox Jews. A constant train of little baskets moving on lines overhead,

Re: TV 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Norm Baugher
Definitively congrats from me too. He better be there next year or I'm gonna bring extra batteries for my phone...actually, that threat is directed at a lot of you last year no shows. Norm has phone numbers, lots of numbers... insert evil laugh here Norm Jostein Øksne wrote: Hey, big congrats

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Fairweather
Here we have actual evidence from Godfrey. Whatever happened to idle speculation and blind prejudice, the mainstay of many a lengthy thread! All I need now is the money for the camera, I already have the 150x card Thanks Godfrey Peter On 12/13/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

RE: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I was reffering to color or BW neg film. Can you get slides from digital files and are they any wider dynamic range than shooting slide film in the first place? If you dont really need slides, then there isnt much point in shooting slide film unless you really want a certain look not available in

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ A valuable test, Godfrey. Interesting that with the K10D the 150x gives so little improvement over the 60x. Is the difference due to different brands of card? Or is 150x overkill for

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... I like to think that I'm not being innovative, Peter. ;-) you're welcome. Godfrey On Dec 13, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Peter Fairweather wrote: Here we have actual evidence from Godfrey. Whatever happened to idle speculation and blind prejudice, the mainstay of many a lengthy thread! All

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ - A valuable test, Godfrey. Interesting that with the K10D the 150x gives so little improvement over the 60x. Is the difference due to different brands of card? Or is 150x overkill for the K10D? Joe

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/14/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! G'day All, Not a true PESO, just a silly shot I took while goofing around: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/_IGP0547.jpg Dave, I definitely disagree with the sentiment here, unless there was a smiley attached which

Re: street (random) portraits, my 2¢

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/14/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060820100454 ^^^ Just my 2¢ for what year 2006 was... quite nice, no? Doesn't do anything for me...in any way. But, thanks for posting it. SOMEbody might be interested. ;-)

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Cory a very nice panorama! I would cut the last part because of the different lightning or try to correct it. I have the same problem with one of my panos from Mt. Pilatus, one shot is darker than the other 5. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Markus Maurer
But Cory, Im' I really the only one seing it beeing darker at the right end? Before printing you should equalize the lightning or cut that part IMHO greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Wednesday, December

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
Thanks Adam. Cheers, Dave On 12/12/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh Nice. -Adam David Savage wrote: G'day All, Not a true PESO, just a silly shot I took while goofing around: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/_IGP0547.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
That's why I'm holding onto it. Who knows, in 20 years it might be woth $25 as opposed to 50c? :-) Cheers, Dave On 12/12/06, Perry Pellechia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That might be true of the plain old white lettered version. The gold one is a collecter item ;-) On 12/12/06, David Savage

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
That's lovely Cory. Nicely done, Cheers, Dave On 12/14/06, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier panorama I started working on in July. http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/4/ Comments welcome. -Cory -- PDML

Re: The Film Look

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/14/06, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was reffering to color or BW neg film. Can you get slides from digital files Yes and are they any wider dynamic range than shooting slide film in the first place? I don't know. If you dont really need slides, then there isnt much

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