Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/12/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >Very enthusiastic user report: >http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-10D.shtml Interesting, thanks for posting. K1D just gone from 99% myth to about 75% myth for me. Let's see what a couple of years brings. -- Che

Re: January PUG

2006-12-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Ok - well December was fire we could just make January ICE had we decided that "10" was for April? because that was the actual month? Or just have it an open gallery since the holidays are upon us. ? ann (I have A roll of film in the LX - I might even get an image out that is current) P. J. A

Re: RAW converter follies with the Pentax K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/12/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the end, whatever works for your needs is best. ACR seems to be working for me (only 2.4 here) but then again I've calibrated the camera (it took a few days and lots of CPU time) and I have produced the two default profiles (a generic

Re: K10D First Impressions

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Looks like we're in pretty close agreement on first impressions, Shel. It's a good camera. :-) G On Dec 13, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > A number of people have complained that the camera is too big or > too heavy, > but I didn't find that to be the case at all. While I prefer sm

FS: my *ist DS+kit lens, A50/1.7 and A28/2.8

2006-12-13 Thread Mike Hamilton
I'm selling my DS, as I just purchased the K10D. I really don't have use for two digital bodies, and could use the cash from the older one. :) Anyway, this is probably just more of a "FYI" in case some of you are thinking of selling a DS. It's on Ebay right now. I set the minimum bid for $250US

RAW converter follies with the Pentax K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've been engaged in a couple of discussions on the DPReview.com forum and privately with a couple of friends regards RAW processing for K10D files. My RAW conversion workflow for the past year and more has been based entirely around Photoshop CS2+Bridge+Camera Raw. Some contend that Silkyp

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
Very well done - thanks for sharing. Now print it and be truly blown away! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Cory Papenfuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Another Panorama PESO... > Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier > panorama I started working on in

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ >>> >>> A valuable test, Godfrey. Interesting that with the K10D the 150x >>> gives >>> so little improvement over the 60x. Is the difference due to >>> different >>> brands of card? O

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well done. Paul On Dec 13, 2006, at 6:27 PM, David Savage wrote: > On 12/13/06, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 12/12/06 8:13 AM, "David Savage", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Pentax K10D, FA 100mm f2.8 Macro with

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 14/12/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very enthusiastic user report: > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-10D.shtml It's an interesting report, the bottom line of which MR hopes that some of Pentax's technical innovations will spur on Canon et al to build bet

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Note the smiley, Joe. Others have commented on your negativity - I've stayed away from that. I was just poking a little fun at the reputation you've garnered here over the past few months as someone who's frequently finding fault. We can all learn to laugh at ourselves a bit ... Why do I give i

Re: Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Jack Davis
Mark, Thanks for the post. Jack --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very enthusiastic user report: > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-10D.shtml > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Well, we've got to remember that it's Joe making the call ;-)) Shel - Shel, why do you feel the need to blurt out a statement like that? And why do you give in to the feeling? I expected, perhaps naively, that a card that is 150% faster in its nominal rating (150x vs 60x) should give some

K10D First Impressions

2006-12-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Today i spent about 1/2 hour with a new K10D. The first impressions are pretty skimpy as i didn't even have time to run through all the menu options. But, for what it's worth, here goes: A number of people have complained that the camera is too big or too heavy, but I didn't find that to be the

Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ > > A valuable test, Godfrey. Interesting that with the K10D the 150x > gives > so little improvement over the 60x. Is the difference due to different > brands of card? Or is 150x overkill for the K10D? You're entitled to your opinion

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you did it right (yes, it is a pretty simple test) and these are the numbers, it shows that you're getting something for your money over the Transcend 150x cards. I suspected that the Transcend cards might be rated a bit optimistically. Of course, I'd like to get my hands on an Extreme II

Re: The "Film Look"

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Cassino
I agree - for snow flake photos where grain and noise are killers, Velvia 50 can't hold a candle to the *ist-D. But for street photography where I want a certain, um, grainy, effect, there's not substitute for film. I like Microdol-X, a fine(r) grain developer. IMO with a grainy film it simply

Luminous Landscape: Reichmann tries out a K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Very enthusiastic user report: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/pentax-10D.shtml -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: EOS 5D vs EOS 1Ds Corner Light fall-off comparison

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: >K.Takeshita wrote: >> No heresy. Just a reading material for long cold nights. >> >> For those contemplating FF at this point :-). >> >> http://www.ejphoto.com/1ds2_vs_5d.htm > >What do you expect form Canon WA zooms? :) I expected worse, in fact. Considering these are wi

RE: The "Film Look"

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
About 10-12 years ago I was applying for a job as a lab tech for an advertising company that did all it's own in house photography & printing. I remember being shown a 4x5 transparency that had been captured on a digital back, burnt to CD, sent to another company that then transferred the digit

Re: RE: K10D and Ring flash

2006-12-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mike Hamilton" Subject: Re: RE: K10D and Ring flash > > P-TTL was already the standard in new Pentax bodies (MZ-S & MZ-6) in > 2001, 2 years prior to the *ist D, which *also* supports TTL. As do > the *ist DS and *ist DS2. I think that 14 years (1992 to 200

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Loveday
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ Thanks for that, very interesting. I just conducted a similar test (no, I don't have a movie to watch :) K10D, RAW (DNG) Test, SanDisk Extreme III 2GB SD card: a.. 75 RAW exposures, 1.25 exp per sec or 0.8 secs per exp average. a.. finish

Re: RE: K10D and Ring flash

2006-12-13 Thread Mike Hamilton
The AF500FTZ was released in 1992. Pentax updated the flash protocol to P-TTL in 2001 to bring Pentax flashes into modern day with wireless flash, high speed sync, etc... The difference between the Sigma flashes, and the Pentax AF500FTZ is that when you bought it, the unit was already 7 years old

Re: backup K10D or ... ?

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Cassino
I think you diagnosed the problem. Get a small extension ring without contacts (I have several 12mm rings) and put that between your FA lens and the camera. The main thing about automation - it makes life easier 99.9% of the time, but if you are working in the 0.1% zone you eihter have to trick

Re: backup K10D or ... ?

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Cassino
Hi Jostein - I'm shooting with a 50mm just reverse mounted on tubes / bellows. Because it is reverse mounted, there's not communication with the camera at all. TTL can deal with that, P-TTL can't. The AF360FGZ defaults to TTL mode, and does a good job with exposures. In theory are you reverse

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Yeah. Basically, I took a bunch of test shots with the terrain and the snow, and exposed for the snow to be almost blown out, but not quite. After that, everything was manual (K-lens, and all...) -Cory On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Markus Maurer wrote: > Hi Cory > did you shoot with manual

RE: The "Film Look"

2006-12-13 Thread japilado
Yes, you can get slides from digital files. There are a couple of guys I know in the Portland, Oregon area that own film recorders that can put digital files on film. I have never seen these devices, or have I transferred files to slide film. Jim A. > I was reffering to color or BW neg film.

Re: January PUG

2006-12-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Seems that it's still undecided. (I hope someone decides soon). John Francis wrote: > The deadline is approaching - what's the theme this month? > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Cory did you shoot with manual aperture *and* shutter speed measuring an average before? greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: A

Re: EOS 5D vs EOS 1Ds Corner Light fall-off comparison

2006-12-13 Thread Tom C
Yes and Luminous Landscape has some interesting comments at: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/5d-field.shtml under the section entitled "The Issue of Full Frame". Tom C. >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, we've got to remember that it's Joe making the call ;-)) Today I had a chance to play with the K10D and used both an 80X card and a 133X card. Even without measured tests and movies, it was clear that the 10D was faster with the faster card. Whether one needs the speed is another matter (I

Re: EOS 5D vs EOS 1Ds Corner Light fall-off comparison

2006-12-13 Thread P. J. Alling
What do you expect form Canon WA zooms? K.Takeshita wrote: > No heresy. Just a reading material for long cold nights. > > For those contemplating FF at this point :-). > > http://www.ejphoto.com/1ds2_vs_5d.htm > > Ken > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler.

RE: K10D and Ring flash

2006-12-13 Thread Tom C
Of course Pentax brought out it's top of the line AF500 FTZ flash which I purchased in '99... which is now rather useless on it's DSLR's. At least Sigma updates their flash. With Pentax you need a whole new unit. Tom C. >From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> Some people claim that it does, and perhaps there is a measurable > change in RAW values. Significant or practically useful? No. > Maybe... for some things. For most things, no. >> So I should stop using my -DS as a colorimeter to calibrate my CRT >> monitor? > > That's up to you.

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: > Yes, it was an inflamatory comment... :) It's pure speculation, > but certainly is as plausible as not that WB adjusts the written > RAW data. > Wasn't there a link to a post here a couple days ago saying the same > thing? Some people

EOS 5D vs EOS 1Ds Corner Light fall-off comparison

2006-12-13 Thread K.Takeshita
No heresy. Just a reading material for long cold nights. For those contemplating FF at this point :-). http://www.ejphoto.com/1ds2_vs_5d.htm Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/13/06, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/12/06 8:13 AM, "David Savage", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Pentax K10D, FA 100mm f2.8 Macro with 1.7x AF Adapter, 1/180 @ f10, > > ISO 1600, AF-540 FGZ flash. > > I'm

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I did notice that, but I'm pretty sure it was due to side-lighting on the lens causing some flare-ish stuff. All of the exposures and processing were identical. I really didn't want to get into that level of "manual" tweaking. Besides... the color skewing doesn't seem to be con

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> That's not what I said. > > The adjustments and tuning provided by the 22bit A-D could be fixed > and not affected by user selection of color space or adjustments to > white balance, and therefore independent of what gets written in a > RAW file. It will take testing to determine exactly what doe

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
Scott Loveless wrote: > On 12/13/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>mike wilson wrote: >> >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/7tv.msnw Damndest rugby photos I've ever seen! (S

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/14/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The K10D is, after all, supposed to be a camera ... not an exercise > in Digital Systems Engineering 101. Mark! Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The "Film Look"

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/14/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was reffering to color or BW neg film. Can you > get slides from digital files Yes and are > they any wider dynamic range than shooting > slide film in the first place? I don't know. If you > dont really need slides, then there > isn

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
That's lovely Cory. Nicely done, Cheers, Dave On 12/14/06, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier > panorama I started working on in July. > > http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/4/ > > Comments welcome. > > -Cory -

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
That's why I'm holding onto it. Who knows, in 20 years it might be woth $25 as opposed to 50c? :-) Cheers, Dave On 12/12/06, Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That might be true of the plain old white lettered version. The gold > one is a collecter item ;-) > > On 12/12/06, David S

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
Thanks Adam. Cheers, Dave On 12/12/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh > > Nice. > > -Adam > > > David Savage wrote: > > G'day All, > > > > Not a true PESO, just a silly shot I took while goofing around: > > > > -- PDML Pent

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Markus Maurer
But Cory, Im' I really the only one seing it beeing darker at the right end? Before printing you should equalize the lightning or cut that part IMHO greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Wednesday, December 13,

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Cory a very nice panorama! I would cut the last part because of the different lightning or try to correct it. I have the same problem with one of my panos from Mt. Pilatus, one shot is darker than the other 5. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: street (random) portraits, my 2¢

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/14/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Roman wrote: > > > > http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060820100454 > > > > ^^^ Just my 2¢ for what year 2006 was... quite nice, no? > > > > > > Doesn't do anything for me...in any way. > > > > > > But, thanks for posting it. > > > SOMEbody might b

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread David Savage
On 12/14/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > > G'day All, > > > > Not a true PESO, just a silly shot I took while goofing around: > > > > > > Dave, I definitely disagree with the sentiment here, unless there was a > smil

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Adam Maas
Joseph Tainter wrote: > http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ > > - > > A valuable test, Godfrey. Interesting that with the K10D the 150x gives > so little improvement over the 60x. Is the difference due to different > brands of card? Or is 150x overkill for the K10D? > >

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL ... I like to think that I'm not being innovative, Peter. ;-) you're welcome. Godfrey On Dec 13, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Peter Fairweather wrote: > Here we have actual evidence from Godfrey. Whatever happened to idle > speculation and blind prejudice, the mainstay of many a lengthy > thread! > >

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: >> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ > > A valuable test, Godfrey. Interesting that with the K10D the 150x > gives > so little improvement over the 60x. Is the difference due to different > brands of card? Or is 150x overki

RE: The "Film Look"

2006-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I was reffering to color or BW neg film. Can you get slides from digital files and are they any wider dynamic range than shooting slide film in the first place? If you dont really need slides, then there isnt much point in shooting slide film unless you really want a certain "look" not available i

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Fairweather
Here we have actual evidence from Godfrey. Whatever happened to idle speculation and blind prejudice, the mainstay of many a lengthy thread! All I need now is the money for the camera, I already have the 150x card Thanks Godfrey Peter On 12/13/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Norm Baugher
Definitively congrats from me too. He better be there next year or I'm gonna bring extra batteries for my phone...actually, that threat is directed at a lot of you last year no shows. Norm has phone numbers, lots of numbers... Norm Jostein Øksne wrote: > Hey, big congrats from me too! > > I me

Re: B&H's weird ordering blackouts

2006-12-13 Thread Norm Baugher
I refer to the store as Temple B&H... Norm gfen wrote: > > As to B&H being an interesting sight, you're right. When I first went > there, it reminded me of what the North Pole might look like if the elves > were all Orthodox Jews. A constant train of little baskets moving on lines > overhead,

Re: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Jostein Øksne
Mark R. wrote: > Trivia: Approximately 1% of women have tetrachromatic color vision - > that is, four different types of cone cells in their retinas - and can > see a vastly broader gamut than normal people. Exactly 0% of men have > this ability; you need two X chromasomes to get it. Add their ab

Re: Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-DS-150x-timing/ - A valuable test, Godfrey. Interesting that with the K10D the 150x gives so little improvement over the 60x. Is the difference due to different brands of card? Or is 150x overkill for the K10D? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List P

RE: street (random) portraits, my 2¢

2006-12-13 Thread Bob W
> > Roman wrote: > > > http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060820100454 > > > ^^^ Just my 2¢ for what year 2006 was... quite nice, no? > > > > Doesn't do anything for me...in any way. > > > > But, thanks for posting it. > > SOMEbody might be interested. ;-) > > Another poor soul with a tampon stuck

Re: The "Film Look"

2006-12-13 Thread Jostein Øksne
I take it you never shot slide film, JCO. I did, and the dynamic range of the *istD was a welcome increase. Jostein On 12/13/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may be able to undo the "knee" on > the film captures but its going to be > impossible to undo the clipping on > the d

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hey, big congrats from me too! I met TvV (aka Gateboy) at GFM in 2004. Was that is last appearance there? Jostein On 12/13/06, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Cesar, if you have a chance - please pass to Tom my congratulations. > That of course, unless he is reading the list

Re: OT Another sad Photographers rights story

2006-12-13 Thread Norm Baugher
"They thought the Hasselblad was some sort of trick camera because they couldn't find a display screen," he said. "They wouldn't believe it wasn't a digital camera." That cracks me up... Norm Digital Image Studio wrote: > http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20895457-5006784,00.ht

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: >>> Of course it doesn't. What it *does* allow for is a different >>> gain for the three different channels for wider dynamic range. That >>> "gain" is a function of settings like colorspace and white balance. >> >> Or it might not be anyt

Pentax DSLR timing test page updated

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I decided to add the performance testing I did with the K10D to the page I did on the *ist DS bodies last July. Updated and QuickTime movies of the capture included ... you can see how the cameras' buffer size and write speed to the cards affects the distribution of sequence captures explic

Re: K10D in Israel

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Lacus
Kostas, > Last time I checked, digital cameras were exempt of duty, but that was > a couple of years ago. The killer is VAT; have you checked prices in > Europe? Warranty may also be more straightforward, I don't know, but > in general sending something out to be fixed/replaced may be an issue.

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
>> Of course it doesn't. What it *does* allow for is a different >> gain for the three different channels for wider dynamic range. That >> "gain" is a function of settings like colorspace and white balance. > > Or it might not be anything user adjustable at all. You're making > assumptions h

RE: New (old stock) Pentax DSLR kits even lower prices?

2006-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I guess you missed my earlier post(s), I stated its "worthless" to someone who's aleady got a better body in hand because they are not really going to want to use it anymore, and I also posted that these are selling brand new kits for less than what you quoted (also on ebay) so lone buyer does not

Re: PESO - Motherly Kiss

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Lacus
> http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=15884 > > I generally refrain from publishing a shot that is obviously made in the > zoo, but this time I'll made an exception. very nice 'street' photo, Boris. I like it very much. Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://p

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: > On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Gorgeous. Excellent work. I'd love to see a ten-foot long print. >> Paul > > Thanks... that's why I've been trying to finish it up... to make > prints for the family. The ones I'm giving

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Especially if it's Norm on the other end. On 12/13/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If he's smart, he has his turned off at 2AM. (Have you ever gotten good > news, at 2AM? I thought not.) > > Scott Loveless wrote: > > On 12/13/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> mik

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: >>> ... *before*. The common thought previously was that RAW provided >>> unaltered A/D data of the sensor. That may or may not have been >>> true, but >>> at least it *could* have been. Now with truncation necessary, it >>> *cannot* >

Re: Pentax F 50mm f/1.4 is same lens of FA 50mm f/1.4 or a differentglass?

2006-12-13 Thread Peter Lacus
Adam, > Even SMC coating technology has been continuously updated over the > years, as improved production technology has become available. As good > as SMC was at inctroduction, it's better now. this is not necessarily true - may be just as good but cheaper to manufacture, for example. Actual

Re: my first shots with the Pentax K10D

2006-12-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Can you please elaborate further about the "improvement over the DS" part? >>> - more pixel resolution >>> - more dynamic range >> >> Har! Now, kind sir, will you please tell me what kind of >> improvement in >> dynamic range you observe so far? > > I have

Re: New (old stock) Pentax DSLR kits even lower prices?

2006-12-13 Thread John Whittingham
> From: "J. C. O'Connell" > Subject: RE: New (old stock) Pentax DSLR kits even lower prices? > > > NO, my point is they are essentially worthless > > once you get better model IN HAND because it's > > just plain dumb to keep using your old inferior > > DSLR camera when you have **already got** a >

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Cesar, if you have a chance - please pass to Tom my congratulations. That of course, unless he is reading the list or archives ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: Obsolete

2006-12-13 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! > G'day All, > > Not a true PESO, just a silly shot I took while goofing around: > > > > Pentax K10D, FA 100mm f2.8 Macro with 1.7x AF Adapter, 1/180 @ f10, > ISO 1600, AF-540 FGZ flash. Dave, I definitely disagree with the sentime

Re: PESO: Girls, Girls, Girls

2006-12-13 Thread Rick Womer
Aha! I've got one of those--makes the camera look really imposing and works pretty well too. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I shot this with a Lumiquest Omnibounce attached to > the head of the flash and the head tilted to a > straight up position. This bounces the majority of > the light

Re: K10D at 'The Online Photographer'

2006-12-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 13, 2006, at 2:42, David Savage wrote: > For those who don't frequent DPR, this is an interesting video of the > K100D's SR ina action: > > > I had to remove the trailing space from your link to get it to work - but once I did that:

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> I see the glacier is ending into a lake or fjord which gives a good > perspective. > Nice; > Technically, it's a lake on the right. Drains right into the ocean a couple miles away. The water on the left is the ocean. -- **

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread P. J. Alling
If he's smart, he has his turned off at 2AM. (Have you ever gotten good news, at 2AM? I thought not.) Scott Loveless wrote: > On 12/13/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> mike wilson wrote: >> >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
>> ... *before*. The common thought previously was that RAW provided >> unaltered A/D data of the sensor. That may or may not have been true, but >> at least it *could* have been. Now with truncation necessary, it *cannot* >> be true that a RAW file contains unaltered digitzed sensor data.

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Gorgeous. Excellent work. I'd love to see a ten-foot long print. > Paul Thanks... that's why I've been trying to finish it up... to make prints for the family. The ones I'm giving away I printed at 8"x52" at 466 dpi. What's the c

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Scott Loveless
On 12/13/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > > >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> >http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/7tv.msnw > >> > >> Damndest rugby photos I've ever seen! > >> (Seems the game isn't as rough as

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 08:28:30AM -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote: > > ... *before*. The common thought previously was that RAW provided > unaltered A/D data of the sensor. That may or may not have been true, but > at least it *could* have been. Now with truncation necessary, it *cannot* >

RE: The "Film Look"

2006-12-13 Thread J. C. O'Connell
You may be able to undo the "knee" on the film captures but its going to be impossible to undo the clipping on the digital capture when the dynamic range of the scene exceeds the digital system's (sensor) recording capability. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/7tv.msnw >> >> Damndest rugby photos I've ever seen! >> (Seems the game isn't as rough as it used to be...) > >It was a place before it was a game. I kno

Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here)

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 8:07 AM, mike wilson wrote: >> I forget the name of that one. It had a 7 cylinder radial engine in >> the front wheel ... talk about "heavy steering", eh? ;-) > > There were a number; Singer was one of the most popular but that > only had a single cylinder engine. The one y

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 13, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: > Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier > panorama I started working on in July. > > http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/4/ Nice job! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/lis

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread pnstenquist
Gorgeous. Excellent work. I'd love to see a ten-foot long print. Paul -- Original message -- From: Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier > panorama I started working on in July. > > http://www.ee.vt.

Re: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Ken Takeshita
On 12/13/06, Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier > panorama I started working on in July. > > http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/4/ > > Comments welcome. Specutacular! I see the glacier is ending into a lake or fjor

Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here)

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 03:51:42 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here) > > > On Dec 12, 2006, at 11:25 PM, David Mann wrote: > > > I've also seen some funky old motorcycles that have

Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here)

2006-12-13 Thread K.Takeshita
On 12/13/06 11:07 AM, "mike wilson", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> mclean_v8_monowheel.html> >> >> Pretty cool looking ... silly as all heck though. > > Ever seen one try to emergency brake? > 8- I saw just that in one of th

RE: Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Tom C
Very Nice! Tom C. >From: Cory Papenfuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Another Panorama PESO... >Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:19:40 -0500 (EST) > > Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier >panorama I started working

Re: The "Film Look"

2006-12-13 Thread graywolf
Luckily we can adjust that in Photoshop. It does help some. J. C. O'Connell wrote: > But the "look" is similar. I forgot to > post that in either of these cases > the film grain is NOT an issue. Its more > the tonal range captured and the look > of the extreme highlights. Film captures > more bu

Another Panorama PESO...

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Finally getting around to finishing up the mountain/glacier panorama I started working on in July. http://www.ee.vt.edu/~mythtv/PESO/4/ Comments welcome. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA

Re: Re[2]: Understanding ProPhoto RGB - or not

2006-12-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> I did the same thing, Cory, and found no practical difference in the > results. > > I've not suffered from excessive noise in any event ... I didn't say practical... I said quantifiable. Revert to previous post about this being a pedantic discussion... :) -- ***

Re: TV & 7's wedding...

2006-12-13 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/13 Wed PM 03:55:56 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: TV & 7's wedding... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/7tv.msnw > > Damndest rugby photos I've ever seen! > (Seems the game isn'

Re: PESO: Girls, Girls, Girls

2006-12-13 Thread pnstenquist
I shot this with a Lumiquest Omnibounce attached to the head of the flash and the head tilted to a straight up position. This bounces the majority of the light off the surface of the reflector, but also spills some light onto the ceiling, which softens the look. Paul -- Original m

Re: PESO: Girls, Girls, Girls

2006-12-13 Thread P. J. Alling
I just knew someone would point this out. Doug Franklin wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> Another pic from the wedding shoot: >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5321317&size=lg >> K10D, DA 16-45, f4.5, 1/25th, ISO 100, flash bounced off the ceiling >> > > "Wedding 69"? None o

Re: Dave's new bike (was: The momentous day is here)

2006-12-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 12, 2006, at 11:25 PM, David Mann wrote: > I've also seen some funky old motorcycles that have an in-hub > engine. Not to mention those crazy contraptions where the rider sits > inside the wheel. I forget the name of that one. It had a 7 cylinder radial engine in the front wheel ... ta

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