Re: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread John Celio
> Didn't you read the Pentax thread? In January all will be revealed. (The > specifications on the E-3 don't look a lot higher than the > specifications on the K10D, except for the frame rate anyway). About the frame rate, from DP Review's spec sheet: Continuous • 5.0 fps • RAW: 1 frames maximum

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread David Savage
On 10/17/07, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The L1 is not little, but a lot smaller than the > > Canon 1D... > > Godzilla is smaller than the Canon 1D. It's not quite that bad but it sure does dwarf some people:

GESO - Trailing curtain flash pix

2007-10-16 Thread Brendan MacRae
Just some fun stuff experimenting with trailing curtain flash. Enjoy! http://www.primelensphoto.com/trailing_curtain/index.html K10D, AF-540FGZ, DA*16-50 zoom. -Brendan Shape Yahoo! in your own image.

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Just before the demise of Film, (well not really demise, more like it's abandonment by big box stores, unless there's a canon nameplate on it), Sears regularly sold lower end Pentax ZX bodies. Doug Franklin wrote: > Boris Liberman wrote: > >> Cool. Now if only anyone would care to enable me w

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Rick Womer
--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The L1 is not little, but a lot smaller than the > Canon 1D... Godzilla is smaller than the Canon 1D. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Geez do I really have to put tags around my statements? Tom C wrote: > Yes, I read it. If true they will have a wonderful all-stops pulled > camera, just after the Christmas season and just in time to get old in > the tooth before the next one. > > That doesn't matter to me, but it should to th

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > Can't help there, but I was at Fry's Electronics tonight and they > had a > K100D (or K110D, I don't recall), an FA 24-90 or something zoom, and a > smaller box marked "Accessory", but I couldn't tell what it was. That > was the first time I'

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Doug Franklin
Boris Liberman wrote: > Cool. Now if only anyone would care to enable me with FA 20/2.8 ;-). Can't help there, but I was at Fry's Electronics tonight and they had a K100D (or K110D, I don't recall), an FA 24-90 or something zoom, and a smaller box marked "Accessory", but I couldn't tell what it

Re: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Nonsense. The L1 optical viewfinder is 95% coverage, .93x magnification and appears identical to the K10D viewfinder in vertical height to my eye. The E-3 viewfinder should indeed appear larger. Godfrey On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > It is 100% of a sensor size smaller t

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Cool. Now if only anyone would care to enable me with FA 20/2.8 ;-). But Cotty, you gotta shoot with all this gear and then you gotta show us pics! Cheers! Cotty wrote: > Hi gang, > > Just thought I'd mention that I have been enabled twice :-) > ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdm

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Doug Franklin
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Doug Franklin" > Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > >> Getting to the wrong place quickly rarely helps anyone. > > Not getting there at all [or] slowly is just as unhelpful. No argument from me,

Re: PESO - Flamingo

2007-10-16 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Rebekah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Beautiful! Nice detail, lovely color on that :o) > > rg2 Thanks, Rebekah ;-] -Brendan Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

Re: PESO - Flamingo

2007-10-16 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/16/2007 11:52:22 A.M. Pacific > Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Here's one I caught in the last week of Sept. at > the > "World Famous" San Diego Zoo: > > http://www.primelensphoto.com/flamingo/index.html > > K10D, SMC M*67

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > > The only thing we really lack is a "Prime Directive"... Leave other > species > alone until they join the present century by themselves. > They'd ignore it anyway.

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > Adam Maas wrote: > >> Less accurate than the Pentax's, but >> they get there a fair bit faster. > > Getting to the wrong place quickly rarely helps anyone. Not gett

Re: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread Tom C
As long as it shows 100% of what's coming through the lens and hitting the sensor, not more or less. Tom C. From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Next move from Olympus ... Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:07:23 -04

Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing

2007-10-16 Thread Doug Franklin
skye pdml wrote: > put up everything (gah!) except my worst mistakes assuming that each > parent would interested in their specific child. I often get into that mode when I'm shooting amateur races. As a racer myself, I know full well that a lot of the folks out there simply want photos of the

Re: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread Tom C
Yes, I read it. If true they will have a wonderful all-stops pulled camera, just after the Christmas season and just in time to get old in the tooth before the next one. That doesn't matter to me, but it should to them. Tom C. From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discus

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Doug Franklin
Adam Maas wrote: > Less accurate than the Pentax's, but > they get there a fair bit faster. Getting to the wrong place quickly rarely helps anyone. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: OT Grand Rapids Michigan

2007-10-16 Thread Mark Cassino
Hi Dave - I'm about 45 minutes from GR and Holland. The waterfront in Holland offers a lot of good photo ops. The city is built around a good sized lake that connects to Lake Michigan. There is a pretty distinctive lighthouse - 'Big Red' where the lakes join. The lighthouse is on the south side o

Re: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
It is 100% of a sensor size smaller than the APS sensor on most other cameras and 1.15x magnification, so the actual view through the view finder will be a bit smaller than the what's seen through the view finder of the K10D or (*ist-D/Ds etc.) Something to complain about already. Tom C wrote:

Re: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Didn't you read the Pentax thread? In January all will be revealed. (The specifications on the E-3 don't look a lot higher than the specifications on the K10D, except for the frame rate anyway). Tom C wrote: > Unfortunately in the last two weeks what has Pentax announced? > > An 18 - 250 coscume

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2007, at 7:49 PM, David Savage wrote: > I noticed a Leica mount Pentax 43mm Ltd. on you-know-where recently. If I could afford an M8 body, I'd buy that lens in a second. That and an Elmarit-M 21mm f/2.8 ASPH is all I'd want with the M8. Anyone got 10K to spare me? ;-) G -- PDML Pe

Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing

2007-10-16 Thread skye pdml
well, I guess if we're only talking about how to determine what to show, I find that telling myself folks don't want to see more than a dozen images or so, usually makes the good ones float to the top. Sometimes I also use time as a limiting factor - I once shot for 8 hours so figured I could show

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
How the heck did I miss that? David Savage wrote: > At 10:22 AM 17/10/2007, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> You're being a piker, we still haven't covered religion and guns! >> > > > Religion was last week. > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-D

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread David Savage
At 10:53 AM 17/10/2007, P. J. Alling wrote: >How the heck did I miss that? Just lucky I guess. Cheers, Dave >David Savage wrote: > > At 10:22 AM 17/10/2007, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >> You're being a piker, we still haven't covered religion and guns! > >> > > > > > > Religion was last week. >

RE: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread Tom C
Unfortunately in the last two weeks what has Pentax announced? An 18 - 250 coscumer zoom and two idiotic P&S cameras! Tom C. >From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: OT: Next move from Olympus ... Date: Tue, 16 Oc

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
And make it the size of a Rollei 35S and cost $100, of course. Godfrey On Oct 16, 2007, at 7:35 PM, Tom C wrote: > I want a digital 6x7III with interchangeable backs so I can keep > increasing the MP as noise goes down, oh yes, and it should be able > to take a newly developed film back also

RE: OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread Tom C
Among many other things, the 100% viewfinder is nice. It really should have been over 12MP... I'm sure it will have a following. I'd have it. :-) Tom C. >From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: OT: Next move from

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread David Savage
At 09:08 AM 17/10/2007, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Cotty wrote: > > > I wish Olympus or Panasonic/Leica (or even Pentax for that matter ) > > would make a small digital rangefinder, like about this sort of > > size. > > > > > >

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread David Savage
At 10:22 AM 17/10/2007, P. J. Alling wrote: >You're being a piker, we still haven't covered religion and guns! Religion was last week. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the li

OT: Next move from Olympus ...

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The Olympus E-3 top of the line camera is now announced on DPReview.com: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0710/07101603olympuse3.asp US price supposedly $1699 MSRP. The grousing on the DPReview.com Olympus SLR Talk Forum has just begun ... ;-) enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PD

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread Tom C
Don't forget evolution vs. creation, broadly falls under religion though I guess. Tom C. From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 20

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread Tom C
I want a digital 6x7III with interchangeable backs so I can keep increasing the MP as noise goes down, oh yes, and it should be able to take a newly developed film back also, should allow digital capture and film exposure simutaneously, and be compatible with all Pentax lenses whatever mount, f

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread David Savage
I'm reading this sub-thread and it's all whistling over my head. (I know about LISP, as Autocad uses it, but the rest is gobbledygook :-) . You guy's are such computer geek's For the record, if I need to write a letter, report etc & it can't be hand written, I used MS Word/Excel at work & the

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
You're being a piker, we still haven't covered religion and guns! Though I think the K1 should have an aperture simulator..(But I don't have to wish for that the K1 or MZ-D or MR-52, or whatever, already had one). David Savage wrote: > At 02:22 AM 17/10/2007, Steve Desjardins wrote: > >> Let

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread David Savage
At 02:22 AM 17/10/2007, Steve Desjardins wrote: >Let's see: > >1. Word Processing software >2. Political orientations >3. Sci Fi quotes >4. Some discussion of DSLR design. >5. Some name calling > >Yep, typical PDML thread. Hmmm, but I feel we are still missing something. ...Ah yes!... Who

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've always liked the appearance of the Takumar lenses with the steel focus rings. I had the fisheye Tal at one time but sold it when I was raising funds for my D. On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:11 PM, Cotty wrote: > >> On 16/10/07, P. J. Alling

Re: PESO:Magnolia Gardens

2007-10-16 Thread Rebekah
Thanks guys :o) that's super expensive professional film there David ;) Thanks Frank, I hadn't noticed the sky much as I find my eyes drawn to the water, but you're right, it is a bit blown out :( but thankfully it isn't too distracting as you say. Thanks for pointing that out - I always miss th

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Manual focus is great for high speed objects if you can pick the point of shutter release prior to the shot. I used it for many years shooting dragsters at 200 mph and other motorsports as well. If the path of the speeding object can be predicted, manual is a lock. Paul On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:

Re: PESO - Flamingo

2007-10-16 Thread Rebekah
Beautiful! Nice detail, lovely color on that :o) rg2 On 10/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 10/16/2007 11:52:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Here's one I caught in the last week of Sept. at the > "World Famous" San Diego Zoo

Re: OT (bikey): How to suffer

2007-10-16 Thread Evan Hanson
On Oct 16, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Bob W wrote: > > http://www.rapha.cc/continental/ > > Bob > Plej cool! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Bob W wrote: > and I already have a perfectly good 14-54mm lens. The rumoured E-3 is > due soon, so I'd have to save my pennies anyway. Supposed to be an announcement about the E-3 tomorrow ... > Before you ebay the lens, make sure you get some use out of it and > p

Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

2007-10-16 Thread Rebekah
oh yeah, my one photo there is SO impressive ;) no, I know what you mean, I browse through it when I'm bored and it always makes me feel very eager to run out with my camera. Some of the pictures there are downright magnificent. rg2 On 10/16/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark

Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

2007-10-16 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote: > Say what you will about how they choose their photos, but browsing the > Pentax Gallery for an hour or so (while your students take a mid-term > exam) is a fine way to generate some enthusiasm for photography and > inspiration for your own shooting. > > > Quiet, you! We

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Cotty wrote: > I wish Olympus or Panasonic/Leica (or even Pentax for that matter ) > would make a small digital rangefinder, like about this sort of > size. > > > > With Limited lenses it would be formidable. You and me b

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Bob Blakely
You brought it up so... The main part of the Constitution does not and did not intend to limit government power. It only grants certain specific powers. In the context in which it was written, government has no power save that which it's given. All power that the government wields and laws whic

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > > Switch to manual focus and do it the right way. Unfortunately, I'm not as fast as the K10.. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Katz Eye Split prism screen

2007-10-16 Thread Bob Blakely
I ordered a couple. I'll let you know how they work out once I've had a chance to play with them. I have two K10Ds, so I'll put the Katz Eye in one and compare it with the other. I have two 77mm's now, so I'll just test them side by side using the control software provided by Pentax. They'll fir

Re: PESO - Flamingo

2007-10-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/16/2007 11:52:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's one I caught in the last week of Sept. at the "World Famous" San Diego Zoo: http://www.primelensphoto.com/flamingo/index.html K10D, SMC M*67 400mm F4 ED [IF] via the P67 ~ K-mount adapter, ISO

Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing

2007-10-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/16/2007 5:53:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I interpreted his question as keepers equalling showing others, displaying, etc... i feel no shame in keeping almost everything I shot in a drawer - it helps with sequences...I do try to get rid of to

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:11 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 16/10/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> You would have been just as well served with the SMC T 17mm f 4.0, >> and >> could have avoided surgery, (you beast). > > I dislike the focus ring on these lenses. I prefer the later rubber

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2007, at 5:05 PM, William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Stenquist" > Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under > NDA) ? > > >> Pentax autofocus keeps up quite nicely in CAF mode. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=48342

Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing

2007-10-16 Thread ann sanfedele
skye pdml wrote: >are you asking what to cut and what to keep; or what to cut and what to show? > >I feel no shame in keeping everything that turned out well, but I >would never show everything that I kept. > > > I interpreted his question as keepers equalling showing others, displaying, etc...

Re: PESO - Time & Wind II

2007-10-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/16/2007 5:28:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Another one from Pebble Beach in Half Moon Bay. > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/timewind2.htm > > Comments welcome. H

Re: PESO - Time & Wind II

2007-10-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/16/2007 6:16:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Nature's Relief". Random wind carvings are interesting to study. This being no exception. Holds my eye for a pleasant period. Jack == Thanks, Jack. Someday I am going to put together a

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" > Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > > >> On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:55 PM, William Robb wrote: >> So buy a Canon. They're good for that sort of thing. >>> I'd rather Pentax bu

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > William Robb wrote: >> - Original Message - >> From: "David Savage" >> Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? >> >> >> So b

Pentax Photo Gallery

2007-10-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Say what you will about how they choose their photos, but browsing the Pentax Gallery for an hour or so (while your students take a mid-term exam) is a fine way to generate some enthusiasm for photography and inspiration for your own shooting. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net h

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > Adam Maas wrote: >> >>Tom C wrote: >> >>> It'll likely be a matter of attrition. What % of people here use >>> WordPerfect as opposed to MS Word? >> >>I use vi > > O

Re: OT: Some interesting wildlife photos (from the red shirt school)

2007-10-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >On Oct 16, 2007, at 9:31 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > > >>For wildlife photographers and also for dog lovers: >> >>http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/polardog.asp >> >> > >Someone sent the photos to me last week. Truly amazing to see, it's >nice to see that t

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > > On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:55 PM, William Robb wrote: > >>> So buy a Canon. They're good for that sort of thing. >> >> I'd rather Pentax built a camera that was up to

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > Oh I don't know. :-) My statement was a little different. I'm saying > that > they have gained a little respect with the K10D and now is the prime time > to > capitalize o

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? > Pentax autofocus keeps up quite nicely in CAF mode. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4834217&size=lg > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6065859&size=

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Adam Maas
Cory Papenfuss wrote: > Wow. Impressive thread. Let me know if I missed any > controversies: > > - WR vs. JCO AND WR+JCO vs PDML. > - Sensor sizes defying physical laws > - Whether Pentax will ever release a FF-DSLR > - Canikon vs. Pentax > - Emacs vs. VI > - Firefox vs. Internet Exploite

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Wow. Impressive thread. Let me know if I missed any controversies: - WR vs. JCO AND WR+JCO vs PDML. - Sensor sizes defying physical laws - Whether Pentax will ever release a FF-DSLR - Canikon vs. Pentax - Emacs vs. VI - Firefox vs. Internet Exploiter - Policitcal conservatism vs. libera

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA)?

2007-10-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Steve Desjardins wrote: > Let's see: > > 1. Word Processing software > 2. Political orientations > 3. Sci Fi quotes > 4. Some discussion of DSLR design. > 5. Some name calling > > Yep, typical PDML thread. > DAMN! My email client ordered them wrong so you beat me to

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: > On 16/10/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> You would have been just as well served with the SMC T 17mm f 4.0, and >> could have avoided surgery, (you beast). > > I dislike the focus ring on these lenses. I prefer the later rubber grips. > SMC's typically have th

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Adam Maas wrote: > Actually it's just ingrained muscle memory, years of having to use vi > while maintaining services on Unix machines means that the basic editing > commands are pretty much automatic. vi is ideal for that use, it's > lightweight and everything has it. > > I s

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Adam Maas
I don't see why a Pentax or Oly one would be ridiculously priced. I suspect they could build one based on the K100D frame for a very reasonable cost. -Adam graywolf wrote: > I don't. It would make me sick knowing I could not afford one. > > Cotty wrote: > >> I wish Olympus or Panasonic/Leica

Re: Katz Eye Split prism screen

2007-10-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, P. J. Alling wrote: > It probably interfers with spot metering more than anything else. > > Steve Desjardins wrote: >> While I'm think of it, does anyone have one of these? I seem to >> remember that is created some metering problems, but I'm not sure where >> I heard this. >

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007, Gonz wrote: > emacs. > > unless i absolutely have to send a doc, then MS word. > If someone *requires* a Word doc, I'll embed a TIF of my LaTeX document into Word. Word is used as the wrong tool for so many jobs it's incredible. -Cory -- ***

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
The original document severely limits the Federal Governments powers. The major problem was the authors left a small loophole to take care of the unexpected which let the camels nose into the tent... graywolf wrote: > Actually the Constitution itself does not limit the governments powers, it is

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Christian wrote: >Cotty wrote: >>> >> I'm a Doctor not a Sturgeon. >> > There's something fishy going on here > > Well it certainly smelts like it. >> >>> Better get your ducks in a roe >> >> I don't think you understand the scale of the problem. True, bu

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread graywolf
Actually the Constitution itself does not limit the governments powers, it is the Bill of Rights that does that. And the revolutionary fathers forced that through against quite a bit of opposition, if I remember my history correctly. Tom C wrote: >> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread graywolf
I don't. It would make me sick knowing I could not afford one. Cotty wrote: > > I wish Olympus or Panasonic/Leica (or even Pentax for that matter ) > would make a small digital rangefinder, like about this sort of size. > > > > With Limited lenses i

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread graywolf
Sorry to hear that, Cotty. Seems like problems are never ending. If you are wondering what that has to do with your post, I have to reply, "Not much" . Cotty wrote: > Hi gang, > > Just thought I'd mention that I have been enabled twice :-) > > Thanks to Godders for passing on a K17mm 3.5 fish

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Tom C
True. I was merely reflecting on how, my personal opinion, the power is not really in the hands of the people at large. It's concentrated in the hands of the select few, who are often born into a wealthy and powerful family. If not, then a person generally acquires wealth and power, which di

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: >> > I'm a Doctor not a Sturgeon. > There's something fishy going on here >>> Well it certainly smelts like it. > >> Better get your ducks in a roe > > I don't think you understand the scale of the problem. > > > > These pun threads are so b

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Bob Blakely
At that time, we were a union of separate states. The states chose to ratify the Constitution as they saw fit via the representation methods they had. Remember, they were independent. We became, essentially, a country of countries. Regards, Bob... ---

Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing

2007-10-16 Thread skye pdml
are you asking what to cut and what to keep; or what to cut and what to show? I feel no shame in keeping everything that turned out well, but I would never show everything that I kept. In keeping everything, I am able to set arbitrary rules, such as not showing more than a dozen or so images, wit

Re: Spam: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even underNDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Gonz
It was all started by a master baiter. On 10/16/07, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Holy mackerel! What a crappie discussion this has become. > > Regards, > Bob... > > "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a ref

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I think they were made with both focus rings. The Supers had only the milled rings but I've seen the SMC with the rubberized ring. Cotty wrote: > On 16/10/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> You would have been just as well served with the SMC T 17mm f 4.0, and >> could have

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Tom C
>From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In the US, the document from the people granting specific powers to the >government for the >sake of liberty is called The Constitution. It's a >great document, even allowing for amendment >should times change and the need arise. I wish it was used here

RE: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Bob W
> > chop! I recently found a good eBay deal on a Panasonic L1 > (4/3rds sensor > > system) with the Leica 14-50mm D Vario-Elmarit lens that > seems to be all > > the rage. [...] > > > > Hence I will be eBaying the Leica lens shortly. I'll offer > it here first > > - can't imagine anyone would be

Re: Spam: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even underNDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Bob Blakely
Holy mackerel! What a crappie discussion this has become. Regards, Bob... "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection." -Jean Luc Godard - Original Message - From: "Derby Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: PESO 2007 - 42e - GDG

2007-10-16 Thread ann sanfedele
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >Ok, a last photo for the week ... another from this morning's walk in >San Jose: > > http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/42e.htm > >Comments, critique, etc always appreciated. > >enjoy, >Godfrey > > > two thumbs up for sure - I see you were both out for a wal

Re: PESO: Bodie B&W Ghosts

2007-10-16 Thread ann sanfedele
mark - oooh really nice! ann Mark Erickson wrote: >The weather made me shiver, too. :-) > >Seriously, I was initially disappointed that I didn't have the classic >blue-blue skies that make Bodie such a wonderful place to photograph. I >think that I ended up with something a little more unusua

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >You would have been just as well served with the SMC T 17mm f 4.0, and >could have avoided surgery, (you beast). I dislike the focus ring on these lenses. I prefer the later rubber grips. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | Pe

Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd

2007-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: >OK. I'm assuming that you're asking the rare serious question, and that >I'm not missing a pun (which I'm apt to do). > >A gourd is a type of fruit with a hard rind, similar to a pumpkin or >squash. The rinds are often hollowed out and

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I wish Olympus or Panasonic/Leica would make a 4/3 System 20mm prime >lens. I wish Olympus or Panasonic/Leica (or even Pentax for that matter ) would make a small digital rangefinder, like about this sort of size.

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread P. J. Alling
You would have been just as well served with the SMC T 17mm f 4.0, and could have avoided surgery, (you beast). Cotty wrote: > Hi gang, > > Just thought I'd mention that I have been enabled twice :-) > > Thanks to Godders for passing on a K17mm 3.5 fisheye that I bought > recently from a Californ

Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/07, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >It now has an (eBay bought) K mount adapter on it That should, of course, have read: It now has an (eBay bought) EF mount adaptor on it -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.c

Re: Spam: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Derby Chang
Bob Blakely wrote: > It's a hard roe for him to hoe. > > Regards, > Bob... > > "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection." > -Jean Luc Godard > > - Original Message - > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing

2007-10-16 Thread Frits Wüthrich
My poetry is not what is used to be :-) On Tuesday 16 October 2007 17:46, P. J. Alling wrote: > But do you get as many poetry winners? > > Frits Wüthrich wrote: > > Whenever I send pictures for a competition or so, I ask my wife or oldest > > daughter to edit. As they are more on a distance, there

OT (bikey): How to suffer

2007-10-16 Thread Bob W
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Re: Lens Enablement X 2

2007-10-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 16, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Cotty wrote: > ... Hence I will be eBaying the Leica lens shortly. I'll offer it > here first > - can't imagine anyone would be interested here, but you never know. I > don't know anyone other than Bob W who's bought into 4/3rds. ... Well, you know that I have the

Re: PESO: Lens Neglect

2007-10-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nice gallery Derby. I've got to get that lens out of mothballs. Regards, Bob S. On 10/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some excellent pics here. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On 10/14/07, Pau

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-16 Thread Bob Blakely
It's a hard roe for him to hoe. Regards, Bob... "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection." -Jean Luc Godard - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm a Doctor not a Stu

Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd

2007-10-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >No. LOL!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinf

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