Re: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-03 Thread Walter Gilbert
I may not be the best person to explain the difference, but I'll try. The difference is subtle. In When I say to you -- the word to indicates that I am communicating with you particularly. In using When I'm saying you, there's no indication that anyone in particular is being addressed.

Re: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks, Walter. I think it clears this issue completely. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-03 Thread Walter Gilbert
You're more than welcome, Boris. I have to admire anyone who manages to learn English as a non-native speaker -- or any other language, really. :-) -- Walt On 11/3/2010 1:48 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Thanks, Walter. I think it clears this issue completely. Boris -- PDML

Re: PESO: Vrije Hoogte

2010-11-03 Thread Thibouille
None ;) certainly since I asked for Ralf's help in the matter. It should come before the weekend. 2010/11/3, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Ralf, It is good to know that your K-7 issue is nearing its end. Lovely photograph, just like the Ralf we all are used to know and appreciate.

RE: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-03 Thread Bob W
[...] I should point out that, in conversational English, you'd almost never hear it spoken that way by a native speaker. Most often, people would say, Believe me when I *tell* you rather than Believe me when I *say to* you, which I can only imagine being used in song lyrics or poetry for the

peso mushroom

2010-11-03 Thread Larry Colen
This afternoon I spent some time photographing a couple of huge mushrooms in the yard. I got a few photos that I liked, but the background was too cluttered. I decided to solve that problem by shooting them at night with strobes. I was setting things up, when the light box fell off the big

RE: peso mushroom

2010-11-03 Thread Bob W
This afternoon I spent some time photographing a couple of huge mushrooms in the yard. I got a few photos that I liked, but the background was too cluttered. I decided to solve that problem by shooting them at night with strobes. I was setting things up, when the light box fell off the big

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Cotty
Pity Bill isn't around, I'm filming at Auschwitz on Tuesday - I could really get my chance to justify the holocaust... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Pdml annual 2010-2011

2010-11-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/11/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: Didn't mean to be disgusting. Don't stop. Please. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 3, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Cotty wrote: Pity Bill isn't around, I'm filming at Auschwitz on Tuesday - I could really get my chance to justify the holocaust... WTF? While I don't know what the connection is, I'm pretty certain that you were just trying to be shockingly offensive, could you

Re: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 10:07 AM, Bob W wrote: ... It almost never appears in 'natural' English, and where it does I wonder if the writer is a native speaker. So Boris, believe Walt when he says to you... I have no reason not to. But speaking of native speakers, I suppose Sting is native enough, isn't

Re: peso mushroom

2010-11-03 Thread Larry Colen
On Nov 3, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Bob W wrote: I did manage to get one pretty good shot, by turning one of the pieces upside down and getting a macro shot of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5141791011/ I prefer this one, which is really good:

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 10:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Besides, I'm the annoying jewboy on the list, not Bill. I thought the word was kike... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Charles Robinson On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:15, Tom C wrote: He called Godfrey a faggot. That made Godfrey happy, but it made a lot of other list members angry because they think Bill shouldn't call Godfrey that. So they hyperventilated and got all over Bill's case in some idiotic guise of

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C It was Godfrey's consititutional right to act in such a way to provoke Bill, who exercised his constititional right to use a word that some found offensive, who then tried to suppress that constitutional right. I think you go too far characterizing it as tried to suppress. He

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Charles Robinson On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:52, Jeffery Smith wrote: Religion, politics, sexual orientation, and race are not good topics for any forum, and generally ignite a purposeless day or two of hostility. Inasmuch that they have nothing to do with Pentax or photography, they are best

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tim ?sleby Pardon me for pointing at the obviouis. But this aint USA, it is PDML, a multicultural email list. So. There is no THE Constitution here, at least not as I am aware off. For the record: I'm not atacking the constitution. You Tom, and others may, may practise the constitution as

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: Pity Bill isn't around, I'm filming at Auschwitz on Tuesday - I could really get my chance to justify the holocaust... Wow. That one really went over my head. I really don't understand what you're getting at. Maybe it's just as

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jack Davis The constitution notwithstanding, let's hear it for servility. Do you perhaps mean civility? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread paul stenquist
Bob Sullivan bought a K-5 as well. I believe his arrived yesterday. Paul On Nov 3, 2010, at 1:44 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: So, Paul, I suppose you're the second one on the list after William Robb, who got this camera. Or at least if my memory does not fail me, you are. Congratulations. Good

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Scott Loveless I guess a more applicable question might be if J. Random Foreigner writes something that could be considered illegal speech in his own country, but sends it to a list server in a country where his words would be protected, who's laws apply? Or rather, who's laws should

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 1:05 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Bob Sullivan bought a K-5 as well. I believe his arrived yesterday. Paul Right, he was selling his K20D for the reason :-). Soon enough the likes of me holding on to their older cameras would be considered photographically retarded. *broad grin*

Re: peso mushroom

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice work. I wouldn't hang it on my wall but I know biologists who would. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Nov 3, 2010, at 1:21 AM, Bob W wrote: I did manage to get one pretty good shot, by turning one of the pieces upside down and getting a macro shot

Re: OT: Proof of Time Travel

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Joseph McAllister Don't you people watch Fringe, Stargate: Universe and Warehouse 13? No. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 1:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: J. Random Foreigner's country can do what they will with him. They're going to anyway. The laws of the list server's host nation apply to the list server itself. Does this highly disputable matter really belong to the open discussion on the list? May

Re: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
There are just too many snappy replies to this one, Boris. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/3/2010 10:07 AM, Bob W wrote: ... It almost never appears in 'natural' English, and where it does I wonder if the writer is a native speaker. So Boris,

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Soon enough the likes of me holding on to their older cameras would be considered photographically retarded. *broad grin* The opposite, Boris. In fact, I envy you. I'd rather not be spending yet another 1300 euros tomorrow. I really hope the K-5 wil

Re: OT: Proof of Time Travel

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just WH 13, but that's because I think Claudia is cute. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:18 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Joseph McAllister Don't you people watch Fringe, Stargate: Universe and Warehouse 13? No. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

OT:Gmail filters

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm not sure how to check what filters I have invoked in Gmail. The problem is that someone on the list is only appearing in other people's messages yet I have not deliberately filtered them. Any help here? -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to almost blind. Once I realized that I was the only one not focusing, I shot

Re: Photography, a personal hot issue...

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
I sold my DA 40. I just didn't find this a useful focal length for the APS-C format. Oldly, My 50 now plays the role of a fast 70-77, a lens I always wanted and never bought due to cost. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Cesar Matamoros II cesar_ab...@mindspring.com wrote: Steve, The skinning

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris, Here is a quick and dirty look at ISO12800 on the K-5 from last night. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5ISO12800# I used the DFA 100mm f2.8 macro at f6.3, 1/500 f4,1/320 f2.8, 1/30 f2.8, 1/90 Noise reduction in Lightroom 3.2 clean them right up amazingly! Regards, Bob S. On

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 1:27 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: I really hope the K-5 wil keep me going for at least two years, for a change, as did the K10D. Ralf Replied off list... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: OT:Gmail filters

2010-11-03 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 3 November 2010 11:32, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how to check what filters I have invoked in Gmail.  The problem is that someone on the list is only appearing in other people's messages yet I have not deliberately filtered them.  Any help here? 'Settings'

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 1:34 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, Here is a quick and dirty look at ISO12800 on the K-5 from last night. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/K5ISO12800# I used the DFA 100mm f2.8 macro at f6.3, 1/500 f4,1/320 f2.8, 1/30 f2.8, 1/90 Noise reduction in Lightroom 3.2 clean them

Re: Talking to Ned Bunnell at the PhotoPlus Expo

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
I just sold a bunch of my stuff, actually to finance the K7. I also bought two cheap oldies, the M200 4 and the K28 3.5 to fill in missing but little used gaps in my lens range. (Actually, the 28 was a complete lark because it was so cheap. I'll be curious to see how it compares to my FA20-35,

Re: OT:Gmail filters

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
OK, nothing there. Can I be filtered (on the list) from the other side, i.e., the sender? I didn't think that was possible on the list. I would hate to have someone trying to insult me and not be seen as displaying the common courtesy to notice. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Eric

Re: PESO: Vrije Hoogte

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Amusingly, this is a low light K7 shot. what was the iso? 2010/11/2 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: From a trip with Thibouille to the port of Antwerp, last Sunday: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/display/22872435 As usual, your comments and suggestions...  :-) With any luck,  this

Re: PESO: Vrije Hoogte

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 1:50 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Amusingly, this is a low light K7 shot. what was the iso? Steven, I think that Ralf is the undisputed master of darkness of this group... So, I wouldn't expect anything but sheer excellence from him in all accounts. Boris -- PDML

Re: PESO: Vrije Hoogte

2010-11-03 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Amusingly, this is a low light K7 shot. what was the iso? ISO 100 as always. A total of 4 frames, from 8 secs to 0.3 sec at f5.6. Combined with Enfuse. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog :

Re: PESO: Vrije Hoogte

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
It was amusing because the K7 has given Ralf such fits. OTOH, I keep forgetting that you use low iso and long exposures, which is why the k7 (ultimately) is problematic for you. Yes? 2010/11/3 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Amusingly, this is

Re: OT:Gmail filters

2010-11-03 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: OK, nothing there.  Can I be filtered (on the list) from the other side, i.e., the sender?  I didn't think that was possible on the list.  I would hate to have someone trying to insult me and not be seen as displaying

RE: Minor question of English

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman Hi! Each time I listen to Russians by Sting (lyrics here, e.g.: http://www.lyricattack.com/s/stinglyrics/russianslyrics.html), what is the difference between I'm saying you smth and I say to you like Sting sings? I don't have a context for the I'm saying you line. I

Re: Minor question of Englsih

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 11/3/2010 10:07 AM, Bob W wrote: ... It almost never appears in 'natural' English, and where it does I wonder if the writer is a native speaker. So Boris, believe Walt when he says to you... I have no reason not to. But speaking of native speakers, I suppose Sting

Re: PESO: Vrije Hoogte

2010-11-03 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It was amusing because the K7 has given Ralf such fits. OTOH, I keep forgetting that you use low iso and long exposures, which is why the k7 (ultimately) is problematic for you. Yes? This is indeed one of the reasons. The other major prob of the

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-11-03 4:40, Larry Colen wrote: On the subject of bigotry, here is George Takei's commentary on Clint McCance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UACK93xF-FE Larry the Cable Guy Now I don't care who you are, that's funny! /Larry the Cable Guy -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 11/3/2010 1:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: J. Random Foreigner's country can do what they will with him. They're going to anyway. The laws of the list server's host nation apply to the list server itself. Does this highly disputable matter really belong to the open

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 2:52 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I don't understand what's disputable about it? United States law says that for a list server physically located within the borders of the U.S., the U.S. government cannot prosecute the listmiester for something a list member posts on the list. Under

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Jeffery Smith
Now, that's the third bladder-like object used to describe someone that I have seen on this forum in the past week. (1) [pompous] gas bag (2) whoopee cushion (3) douche bag Amy I missing any? g Jeffery On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-11-03 4:40, Larry Colen

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Jeffery Smith
Try extraditing someone from Canada to the US. It's a PITA. We had a hell of a time getting Charles Ng to come home. Jeffery On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:58 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Oh, it is then that you and I were looking at it from different angles. I wasn't worried about Doug, as he was not

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 3:05 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Try extraditing someone from Canada to the US. It's a PITA. We had a hell of a time getting Charles Ng to come home. Jeffery Well, I really don't want to get any deeper into this other than repeating myself that either we have to have some kind of

Re: peso mushroom

2010-11-03 Thread Jack Davis
Heck of an effort, Larry. Crisp well focused and exposed, but this type of image tends to suffer if not near perfect symmetry. Nice salvaging attempt, but, alas, the light box may have defeated your effort. Jack --- On Wed, 11/3/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Jeffery Smith
I agree that ad hominem attacks should be strongly discouraged. If someone wishes to attack another personally, he should do it off-list. As they say in saloons, take it outside, guys. When ad hominem attacks happen on-list, they invariably disrupt the forum and the function for which this list

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for this, Bob! Impressive! Jack --- On Wed, 11/3/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-5 here, high iso samples To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 4:40 AM On 11/3/2010 1:34 PM, Bob

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Jack Davis
There are those who don't want to perform without an audience. Jack --- On Wed, 11/3/10, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: On behalf of William Robb To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 3,

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread David J Brooks
I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Dave On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K5 arrived a few hours ago. My first thought was that it was defective and wouldn't autofocus. As usual, I'd forgotten to set the diopter to

Re: PESO - Twelfth Street Cottage

2010-11-03 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice Dave On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:34 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the houses on our street are small cottages much like this one (about two doors north of our building):  Modest, but well-kept and quite charming.  I thought the few back-lit leaves left on

DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
This is rather interesting to me: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/an_open_letter_to_the_major_camera_manufacturers.shtml Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

PESO: A Pentax Experience

2010-11-03 Thread CheekyGeek
This photo is a little more than a cheat as a PESO submission. a) I didn't take it b) It wasn't taken BY a Pentax. However it was taken WITH a Pentax in the photo, so I thought it might be fun to share. Our family was out for the purpose of taking some group family photos. This photo was taken as

PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My morning cup of coffee looked so good, I took a photo of it: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11892454 Of course, comments, suggestions, criticisms and abuse are encouraged. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: A Pentax Experience

2010-11-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Darren, LOL, a group 'chimping' and a 'Storm Trooper' Pentax. Fun stuff... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:09 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: This photo is a little more than a cheat as a PESO submission. a) I didn't take it b) It wasn't taken BY a Pentax. However it was

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan, Very nice, somebody's got to give Frank some competition. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: My morning cup of coffee looked so good, I took a photo of it: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11892454 Of course, comments,

Re: PESO: A Pentax Experience

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Pentax, enchimping (*) people... :-) (*) to Enchimp (see to Enable) - to chimp together... *broad grin* Boris On 11/3/2010 4:09 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: This photo is a little more than a cheat as a PESO submission. a) I didn't take it b) It wasn't taken BY a Pentax. However it was taken WITH a

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: Now, that's the third bladder-like object used to describe someone that I have seen on this forum in the past week. (1) [pompous] gas bag (2) whoopee cushion (3) douche bag Amy I missing any? g It's just a

Re: PESO: A Pentax Experience

2010-11-03 Thread Jack Davis
What a great recording of a group experience. One can feel the warmth. Jack --- On Wed, 11/3/10, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: From: CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: A Pentax Experience To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 7:09

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-03 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: This is rather interesting to me: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/an_open_letter_to_the_major_camera_manufacturers.shtml Dario, Thanks for sharing this link. I learned A LOT of things I didn't know. I would

Re: OT:Gmail filters

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yep, there they were. I only use Gmail the PDML so I don't check that much. For some reason, every message from Bob W for the last month had been declared spam and I only recently noticed. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Steven

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread Igor Roshchin
Tasty! ;-) I didn't realize Illy became available in the US. That brand reminds me of nice areas where I had that coffee - Europe (Italy, possibly something else), Argentina, .. Also, since people started showing their coffee-cup shots, it reminded me about the shot I took (and I believe

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Maybe Pentax just uses slower lenses (they do) and doesn't correct (no idea since the data wasn't there). The funny thing would be if they didn't correct there would no evidence of it in this data but rather in inconsistent exposure results between lenses. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:43 AM,

Re: PESO: A Pentax Experience

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
I wasn't aware there were PESO rules. I send in e-p1 shots, although I alway indicate them. It looks like you were getting much advice. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:09 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: This photo is a little more than a cheat as a PESO submission. a) I didn't take it

Re: PESO: A Pentax Experience

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
What amazing storm shots. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't aware there were PESO rules.  I send in e-p1 shots, although I alway indicate them.  It looks like you were getting much advice. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:09 AM, CheekyGeek

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread CheekyGeek
I realize this is close to a religious issue, but: preground pods? imho THIS is coffee: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/3910633204/ :P Darren Addy (runnin' and duckin' in Kearney, Nebraska) -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-5 here, high iso samples

2010-11-03 Thread P N Stenquist
On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I must say i'm impressed. So does CS5 support the K-5 then.?? Probably. But I'm still working with CS4, so I just save RAWs as DNG files. Paul Dave On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My K5

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
What pre-ground? All I saw was a cup of the extracted form. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:23 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: I realize this is close to a religious issue, but: preground pods? imho THIS is coffee: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/3910633204/ :P Darren Addy

Re: PESO: A Pentax Experience

2010-11-03 Thread P N Stenquist
Wonderful family picture. Great stuff. Paul On Nov 3, 2010, at 10:09 AM, CheekyGeek wrote: This photo is a little more than a cheat as a PESO submission. a) I didn't take it b) It wasn't taken BY a Pentax. However it was taken WITH a Pentax in the photo, so I thought it might be fun to share.

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-03 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: The funny thing would be if they didn't correct there would no evidence of it in this data but rather in inconsistent exposure results between lenses. I guess I should have prefaced my comments as coming from one who

Re: PESO: A Pentax Experience

2010-11-03 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: What amazing storm shots. Supercells are the majestic mountains of the Great Plains. (Gee, I should make bumper stickers of that.) But unless you are lucky enough to be in one's path you need to chase them to capture

K-5 at ISO 1600

2010-11-03 Thread P N Stenquist
While testing the camera at 6400 and beyond is fun, good results at ISO 800 and 1600 are much more important for my work. I shot this little garden nymph at ISO 1600 with the DA* 50-135 at dusk yesterday. I converted in my normal fashion with a bit of fill light and curve adjustment. It's

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
The best thing would be to admit the correct and allow the shooter to turn it on or off with a custom function. Why change the iso anyway? why not just change the Tv? On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:30 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Steven Desjardins

Small GESO - from the recent trip to Chicago

2010-11-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/An-October-Journey/14271775_LM676#1055407741_ErPnT The one of Paul Stenquist was with my cell phone... All others with the dark side camera. I had intended to take the 28mm Pentax lens with me to shoot when I could but discovered on route

PESO: The Tree Across the Street

2010-11-03 Thread Jack Davis
I just shot this and emailed to its owner. I've asked them to identify the variety and gave permission for some of its seeds to blow into our yard and plant themselves. Others haven't been that welcome. ;) My wife simply cannot stop looking at it, so she now has her own personal image.

Re: Small GESO - from the recent trip to Chicago

2010-11-03 Thread Miserere
On 3 November 2010 11:42, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/An-October-Journey/14271775_LM676#1055407741_ErPnT The one of Paul Stenquist was with my cell phone... All others with the dark side camera.  I had intended to take the 28mm

Re: K-5 at ISO 1600

2010-11-03 Thread Jeffery Smith
That ISO performance is the great equalizer. One rarely sees that ISO coupled with a relatively slow shutter speed and a relatively large aperture. It would be great for low light shots and shadowed shots in street photography. Jeffery On Nov 3, 2010, at 10:36 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: While

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-03 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:  Why change the iso anyway? why not just change the Tv? My guess would be because, out of the three main variables (shutter speed, aperture, ISO), ISO is the one that people will be most willing to compromise on.

Re: Small GESO - from the recent trip to Chicago

2010-11-03 Thread P N Stenquist
Great stuff. Love the beach, the bulrushes and Union Station in particular. But who's that scruffy old man with the hot dogs? Some homeless guy you found in Detroit? :-)) Paul On Nov 3, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread CheekyGeek
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: What pre-ground?  All I saw was a cup of the extracted form. True. He could be simply using an Illy logo cup for some other brand/method of coffee/espresso brewing with freshly ground beans. Let's hope so, shall we? :)

Re: K-5 at ISO 1600

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Looking good, Paul, good indeed! Boris On 11/3/2010 5:36 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: While testing the camera at 6400 and beyond is fun, good results at ISO 800 and 1600 are much more important for my work. I shot this little garden nymph at ISO 1600 with the DA* 50-135 at dusk yesterday. I

OT: bednij's journal

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I thought these images were interesting play's on light and shadow: http://bednij.livejournal.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bob. Note that I have better crema! Dan http://bednij.livejournal.com/ On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Very nice, somebody's got to give Frank some competition. Regards,  Bob S. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola

Re: OT: bednij's journal

2010-11-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/3/2010 6:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I thought these images were interesting play's on light and shadow: http://bednij.livejournal.com/ For those who don't know - bednij is one of the way to spell poor in Russian with Latin letters... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Igor! In my last two trips to Italy, I noted that almost all the good restaurants and cafes used illy. When I returned, I found illy USA on the internet: http://www.illyusa.com They do indeed ship direct to customer in the US, and I have been using their coffee for the last 9 months. I

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
At home I only grind my own, but in the office, it's a bit inconvenient, especially since I am the only one who drinks espresso. This is a machine I purchased from illy USA. It takes pre-packaged packets (not exactly pods), but it also takes ground coffee, either pre-ground loose coffee or from

Re: PESO: Caffe

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
As I noted above, Darren, it is an illy cup containing coffee brewed from illy cialde: http://www.illyusa.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/subcat_coffee_coffee_ese-pods Admittedly, fresh ground is better, but the illy pods have real illy ground coffee, and make a very fine cup of brew indeed. I

Re: OT: bednij's journal

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Actually, Boris, I did remember that from my college Russian. I wasn't really certain of how it was meant here, but perhaps it is in the vein of Poor Richard's Almanac? Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

Pentax Photo Gallery acceptance + semi-OT question

2010-11-03 Thread Walter Gilbert
Hi all, OK, I'll get the boasting out of the way, first: I found out yesterday that I've had three more of my submissions accepted, and one declined, for the Pentax Photo Gallery. I'll take those odds! I still have two of my original submissions pending, and two new ones uploaded since I

Re: PESO: The Tree Across the Street

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice! Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I just shot this and emailed to its owner. I've asked them to identify the variety and gave permission for some of its seeds to blow into our yard and plant

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:15, Tom C wrote: ... He called Godfrey a faggot. ... Let's put this long stream of nonsense together with some shred of accuracy in the facts of how it developed: WR objected to the statement wherein I opined that I was uninterested in meaningless brand bashing posing as

Re: On behalf of William Robb

2010-11-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Godfrey, This recap is just stiring the pot. Be a grown-up and let it pass. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:15, Tom C wrote: ... He called Godfrey a faggot. ... Let's put this long stream of nonsense together

Re: DXO and light loss with fast lenses

2010-11-03 Thread John Francis
I believe the article is written using an overly hysterical tone. This isn't news. It has long been known that the metering in many digital cameras takes the maximum aperture of the lens into account. In the case of Pentax it was discussed when the K-10 was a fairly new body (I believe Ned

Re: GESO Teresa

2010-11-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
All this time, I thought Gazanias was a euphemism for one of the naughty bits! Nice image. Dan On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:24 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Bonus! Gazanias. Christine commented favourably on these ...

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