OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Steve Cottrell
This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Ps CS5 and CS6 won't keep working forever. Eventually a Mac OS upgrade will break them, so we casual or non-biz Ps users now must be prepared. Adobe has apparently seen the wisdom of stepping down as the software giant and breaking their own virtual monopoly on photo editors. We should praise

Re: PESO: Today's Report

2014-02-02 Thread Attila Boros
You need to put a tablet / laptop thingy next to it running windoze Metro interface with live tiles and it would be hilarious:) On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: This is the Blackboard they keep poolside at our condo.

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course Adobe won’t miss a chance to provide us with product for a hefty fee. Whether it’s called PhotoShop or Elements, web-based or installed, I’m sure that we’ll be able to keep working with a somewhat familiar software solution. Paul On Feb 2, 2014, at 5:34 AM, Bruce Walker

Re: OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow! Great fun! Thanks for posting, Cotty! She’s my new hero! :-) Cheers, Christine On Feb 2, 2014, at 4:29 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138 --

Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C
Nice shot - it reminds me of an old photo you might in a shoe box and spend some time trying to decipher. On 1/31/2014 7:21 AM, knarf wrote: We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face on:

PDML Photo Annual Update

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
We're about half way through the submission period - you have until the end of February - so there's still time for you to submit your three photos (or shoot them!) We have some very good material already but we'll happily add yours to the list. http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/ -- Mark

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan wrote: Adobe doesn't have my confidence either. Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my friend. And, there is a new version of the PDF reader they want to download every time. I believe that is bullshit. Acrobat Reader is a malware vector, too. Best

Re: OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Very cool. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video

Re: Wilder ranch reprocessed

2014-02-02 Thread John
If you squint just the tiniest bit, the subject line becomes Wilder ranch repossessed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
Paul, you're right about masks. I just reviewed my PSE 11 install to check a few things, and sure enough layer masks are supported. But there is simply a myriad of important workflow things missing, like: second monitor support; brush flow; 16-bit support; Curves adjustments; ProPhoto RGB; ...

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Boris Liberman
I concur. I don't even remember when was the last time I was running the Adobe PDF reader. For several years I'm also using Foxit (Portable). Prior to that I used some other viewer, but certainly not Adobe's. I think it was around version 6.0 of Adobe Reader that I stopped using it. On Sun, Feb

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread John
Bottom line for me has been that the cost doubled with the update to CS6, and Creative Cloud means the cost will double again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I need Adobe Acrobat Pro and find it quite useful and easy to use. I frequently get PDF contracts and other docs from clients that call for additions and a signature. Much easier to use Acrobat than to convert the PDF to another format to work with it. Paul On Feb 2, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Boris

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I couldn’t work without curves, brush flow and my second monitor. And 16-bit support is a big plus as well. I’ll go to the cloud version of PS at some point if I have to, but will continue with PS 6 until the need is critical. Paul On Feb 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Bruce Walker

PESO: Sticky Snow

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
We got another 8 inches of wet snow that hangs nicely on the branches. No good light to go with it, but that’s a rare combination in winter. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17671423 More than two feet on the ground here now. More in drifts. Ready for spring. Paul -- PDML

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: I need Adobe Acrobat Pro and find it quite useful and easy to use. I frequently get PDF contracts and other docs from clients that call for additions and a signature. The latest version of Foxit does all that. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia

Re: Pentax 1.4x converter

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister wrote: Definitely not a Pentax product shot, beta or whatever. In about two weeks we'll find out for certain. I'm pretty sure you're wrong :) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
A young Moose Petersen? Great plane shots. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sounds like good advice Mark. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: Adobe doesn't have my confidence either. Anybody who wants to get in my machine every time I sign on is not my friend. And, there is a new version

Re: PESO: Sticky Snow

2014-02-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
The light is on the way Paul. I'll pass it along from Sunny Chicago. Bob S. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: We got another 8 inches of wet snow that hangs nicely on the branches. No good light to go with it, but that's a rare combination in

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
What is a malware vector? I've never had a problem with Acrobat. Been using it forever, probably more than twenty years. Paul via phone On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like good advice Mark. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:02 AM,

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bob W
Surely you've heard of every viable virus vector, Victor? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362351,00.asp B On 2 Feb 2014, at 17:56, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: What is a malware vector? I've never had a problem with Acrobat. Been using it forever, probably more than

Re: PESO: Sticky Snow

2014-02-02 Thread Kenneth Waller
The news is reporting the all time monthly snow record for SE Michigan was broken last month - something a little shy of 40 inches for the month. The season total is around 55 inches so far. The average for a winter season in Detroit is 42 inches -Original Message- From: Paul

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C
Wouldn't second monitor support be an OS function independent of the application itself? Does PSE not let you pull the palates and images wherever you want on the screen? I agree that the lack of curves and 16 bit support is severely crippling On 2/2/2014 11:23 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
So an executable file can be attached to a PDF. Good thing an executable won’t run on a Mac. Paul On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Surely you've heard of every viable virus vector, Victor? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362351,00.asp B On 2 Feb

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Bruce Walker
The app window contains all the sub windows. I was unable to drag anything outside of it. Maybe I missed something ... ? In full Photoshop there are menus for enabling the second monitor and how it will display on it. No such menus in PSE. Lightroom has explicit 2nd monitor support too. On Sun,

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: So an executable file can be attached to a PDF. Good thing an executable won’t run on a Mac. There are Mac-specific variations on this technique. For most of us, though, we only need to worry about PDF files downloaded from unknown sources. -- Mark Roberts - Photography

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread steve harley
on 2014-02-02 12:46 Mark Roberts wrote Paul Stenquist wrote: So an executable file can be attached to a PDF. Good thing an executable won’t run on a Mac. There are Mac-specific variations on this technique. For most of us, though, we only need to worry about PDF files downloaded from

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have no reason to download unknown PDFs,, so I guess I can stick with the familiar Acrobat Pro. Paul via phone On Feb 2, 2014, at 3:35 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2014-02-02 12:46 Mark Roberts wrote Paul Stenquist wrote: So an executable file can be attached to a

Re: PESO: Maui Sunset

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On February 1, 2014 10:38:06 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Paul. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A rich scene, nicely composed. Paul via phone On Feb

Re: OT Outstanding wildlife/nature photography

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On January 30, 2014 7:53:40 PM EST, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: This Finnish photographer's stuff is really remarkable ... http://www.kafa.fi/pages/gallery1.php http://www.kafa.fi/pages/the-house-in-the-woods.php Highly subdued images, pretty much the opposite of most wildlife

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On January 31, 2014 7:45:17 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:31 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: .. I am still sort of the opinion that *my* perfect camera hasn't been made yet. .. It's probably a fact that no camera can ever truly be perfect. I've

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On February 1, 2014 9:37:58 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 1/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: If there's one beef I have with all the Fuji cameras of recent years (aside from

OT - World's best father

2014-02-02 Thread Igor Roshchin
Interesting set of photos: http://chicquero.com/2012/09/24/worlds-best-father/ I like the creativity and the sense of humor... I think at least somebody else here on the list will appreciate this set. :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C
That would certainly bee another significant limitation to PSE. I am using Windows PC's and have never used any menus in PS for enabling the second montior - the second monitor is just there and I drag the pallets that I want to use to it and leave the primary display for just the core PS

Re: GESO 2014 - 031-035 - GDG

2014-02-02 Thread Mark C
That works very well - the images flow very naturally... On 1/29/2014 3:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I thought this set looked nice as a quadtych ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12210617516/ (Individuals ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12210618146/

Re: OT - World's best father

2014-02-02 Thread Miserere
On February 2, 2014 5:07:53 PM EST, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Interesting set of photos: http://chicquero.com/2012/09/24/worlds-best-father/ I like the creativity and the sense of humor... I think at least somebody else here on the list will appreciate this set. :-) Igor Igor,

Re: OT - World's best father

2014-02-02 Thread John
On 2/2/2014 5:07 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Interesting set of photos: http://chicquero.com/2012/09/24/worlds-best-father/ I like the creativity and the sense of humor... I think at least somebody else here on the list will appreciate this set. :-) Igor I think this guy did it first:

Re: OT - World's best father

2014-02-02 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sun Feb 2 18:58:02 EST 2014 Miserere wrote: On February 2, 2014 5:07:53 PM EST, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Interesting set of photos: http://chicquero.com/2012/09/24/worlds-best-father/ I like the creativity and the sense of humor... I think at least somebody else here

Re: PESO: Maui Sunset

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Miserere. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On February 1, 2014 10:38:06 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Paul. Dan Matyola

Re: OT - aviation photog

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It insists that I subscribe. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:29 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: This is on DPReview at the moment, very nicely put together video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpz8m8reCg#t=138 --

PESO: Shark

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667353size=lg Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: PESO: Sticky Snow

2014-02-02 Thread Stanley Halpin
One hundred miles north and our snow total is about 30-50% what you have. Go figure. We have also had fewer incidents of “mixed” weather with icing. Hang in there. stan On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: The news is reporting the all time monthly snow

PESO - Dinan School Outing

2014-02-02 Thread Rick Womer
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667082 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17667082-lg.jpg   (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: Question: Skiing and Photography

2014-02-02 Thread Rick Womer
Christine, Once upon a time (in the film era) I spent a week every winter for about 18 years doing lots of ski shooting--lessons, open skiing, races. I used a Super Program at first, then a PZ-1 and PZ-1p. Observations, in no particular order: - Jeez, it is COLD when you're standing at the

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 February 2014 08:18, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: If camera makers opened up their firmware, then I'd probably be able to end up with a 98% perfect camera for no extra money, but nobody listens to Thom Hogan, let alone to me :-/ Cheers, Amen, the Sony RX100.. could benefit

Re: OT - Re: Yo Cotty, check the new Fuji out!

2014-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I've thought about that for the last 5 years or so. Shame there are no custom camera builders, like there are tailors, architects or carpinters; at this point I get so worked up by imperfect cameras that I'd be willing to pay a

Re: PESO: Shark

2014-02-02 Thread Jack Davis
Very nicely done, Dan! Like the pastel colors and composition. Jack From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: PESO: Shark

Re: PESO: Shark

2014-02-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Jack. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Very nicely done, Dan! Like the pastel colors and composition. Jack From: Daniel J. Matyola

PESO 2014 - 037 - GDG

2014-02-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Still working photos from a week ago, but I'm feeling better finally. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12282239614/ There was something pure and attractive about the way this bicycle looked. Very appealing to my eye. Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. Godfrey --- The

Re: Question: Adobe Creative Cloud

2014-02-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 2/2/2014 7:56 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: What is a malware vector? I've never had a problem with Acrobat. Been using it forever, probably more than twenty years. Paul via phone http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Malware_propagation_vector Paul, let me suggest to you that by being very widely

Re: PESO - Dinan School Outing

2014-02-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
It's been good to see your pictures of Dinan Rick. Karin and I had a memorable stay there about 20 years ago. My shots are all on film so no immediate ones to post. Thanks, Chris On 3 February 2014 02:28, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667082

Re: PESO: Maui Sunset

2014-02-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Nice one Dan. It's always good to see some interesting foreground in a sunset picture and the silhouettes of the palms do the job admirably. Chris On 1 February 2014 22:59, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The end of another perfect day in paradise: