Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-19 Thread Lon Williamson
For the SuperProgram: Aperature ring must be on A. Program or shutter priority only, by implication. Then you see aperature and shutter speed in display. Robb may be crusty, but his memory is intact. Wink.-Lon William Robb wrote: ..I sold both my Super Programs some time ago,

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Nenad Djurdjevic Subject: Re: A-lenses aperture indication I wrote: I had an SFXn and the reason it didn't display the aperture in the viewfinder was because it had no means of doing so in *any* mode. Alexander wrote: I know this. I meant to say

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Nenad Djurdjevic Subject: Re: A-lenses aperture indication I wrote: I had an SFXn and the reason it didn't display the aperture in the viewfinder was because it had no means of doing so in *any* mode. Alexander wrote

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread John Coyle
: A-lenses aperture indication I have wondered the same thing as Nenad Djurdjevic. Why doesn't my Pentax MZ-S show aperture indication in viewfinder or on the data recorded on to the film?. Is my MZ-S faulty or are my A-lenses? Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Scott Nelson
This is correct. I have a MZ-5n and I understand it is normal behavior. It would theoretically be possible for the body to compute the aperture based on the stop down coupler and the A contacts (which give max/min aperture info). However, I believe this is not done because the stop down coupler

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread keller.schaefer
Nenad, as explained below, the seventh pin makes the difference between 'A' and 'F' in this respect. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ has all this and much more - not quite easy to find, though. From the main page you select 'Technology' on the left, then 'K-Mount Evolution, Features and Operation'.

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread alexanderkrohe
William Robb wrote: When the lens is off A, the electrical contacts are disabled, and the lens has no electrical communication at all with the camera. It's not just AF cameras. The Super Program is the same way. This is right only for A-lenses. When the aperture ring is set off A the

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Jim Colwell
My MZ-5N finder shows lens aperture setting for all 'manual' and 'A' aperture ring positions, for both SMCP-A 50/1.7 and SMCP-FA 28-70/4 Jim www.jcolwell.ca

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread John Whittingham
What even in manual and aperture priority modes? John John Whittingham Technician -- Original Message --- From: Jim Colwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:49:15 -0300 Subject: Re: A-lenses aperture indication My MZ-5N finder shows lens

RE: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
The very same question was asked in the past, and yes, it is technically possible to make a KA or later camera which can display the chosen aperture with 'A' lens when it is not set to 'A'. I found this out when I was using my Metz 40MZ3i flash with M135/3.5 (masked the mount to simulate 'A'

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Jim Colwell
correction, sorry: the SMCP-A 50/1.7 lens shows aperture setting in the MZ-5N finder for the 'A' position, but not at manual settings. The SMCP-FA 28-70/4 lens shows aperture in the MZ-5N finder for both 'A' and manual settings. I'll make a quick table of some other results and sent it soon.

Re: A-lenses aperture indication - quick tests

2004-06-15 Thread Jim Colwell
here is a summary of some different lens/body combinations A = lens aperture ring set to 'A' position M = lens aperture ring set to a manual position Y = camera shows aperture setting in finder N = camera does not show aperture setting in finder SuperProgram body SMCP-FA 28-70/4 A:Y

RE: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread David Miers
aperture indication William Robb wrote: When the lens is off A, the electrical contacts are disabled, and the lens has no electrical communication at all with the camera. It's not just AF cameras. The Super Program is the same way. Having switched to digital and no longer having any film camera

RE: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Jens Bladt
PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Coyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. juni 2004 08:22 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: A-lenses aperture indication Jens, I only have the A70-210/4 zoom, and it shows the aperture in the Auto setting only. Off auto

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
On the AF330FTZ and AF360FGZ, the usable scale distance varie when aperture varie

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess my outfit isn't faulty afterall. I just find it funny, that this only works with autofocus lenses (this doesn't really have anything to do with focusing(!). I thought that A and FA lenses had the same KAF-mount contacts. Apparently they don't!! The FA

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread John Francis
Alexander wrote: Apart from (the) 7th digital read-out pin there is another difference between A and F/FA lenses. The A contact of the F/FA lenses does not retract when the aperture ring is set off A. So all contacts seem to remain connected even when the lens is set not to A. Although

RE: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Alan Chan
I thought that A and FA lenses had the same KAF-mount contacts. Apparently they don't!! F/FA lenses have a chip inside them while A lenses don't. They look the same, but work differently. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
Alexander wrote Interestingly, as far as I remember, also with F/FA lenses the SFX does not show the aperture number on its display when the lens is off A , while newer cameras do. I had an SFXn and the reason it didn't display the aperture in the viewfinder was because it had no means of

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-15 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
Scott wrote: It would theoretically be possible for the body to compute the aperture based on the stop down coupler and the A contacts (which give max/min aperture info). Also, top cameras of the day (mx, lx, kx and k2 before them) had an optical system to show the aperture in the viewfiner

A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
I have been wondering why Pentax AF cameras (crippled KAF mount excepted) will not show the aperture setting in the viewfinder when the aperture ring is set to other than A. It seems to me that A lenses provide enough information to the camera through the electronic contacts and aperature

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Nenad Djurdjevic Subject: A-lenses aperture indication I have been wondering why Pentax AF cameras (crippled KAF mount excepted) will not show the aperture setting in the viewfinder when the aperture ring is set to other than A. It seems to me

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread ernreed2
Nenad Djurdjevic asked: I have been wondering why Pentax AF cameras (crippled KAF mount excepted) will not show the aperture setting in the viewfinder when the aperture ring is set to other than A. It seems to me that A lenses provide enough information to the camera through the electronic

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread alex wetmore
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both my PZ-1 and my ZX-5n will show the aperture setting in the viewfinder if the aperture ring on an autofocus lens is set to other than A. AF lenses are different than the A lenses. The AF lenses have an extra contact which digitally communicates

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: A-lenses aperture indication Both my PZ-1 and my ZX-5n will show the aperture setting in the viewfinder if the aperture ring on an autofocus lens is set to other than A. They won't report the aperture on an M lens, and I don't have a manual

RE: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread Jens Bladt
- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 15. juni 2004 06:59 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: A-lenses aperture indication Nenad Djurdjevic asked: I have been wondering why Pentax AF cameras (crippled KAF mount excepted) will not show the aperture setting in the viewfinder when

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic
William Robb wrote: When the lens is off A, the electrical contacts are disabled, and the lens has no electrical communication at all with the camera. It's not just AF cameras. The Super Program is the same way. Having switched to digital and no longer having any film camera bodies I can't

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Nenad Djurdjevic Subject: Re: A-lenses aperture indication Having switched to digital and no longer having any film camera bodies I can't check this - but I could have sworn that F and FA lenses on an AF body gave an aperture readout on the camera at all

Re: A-lenses aperture indication

2004-06-14 Thread John Francis
William Robb wrote: When the lens is off A, the electrical contacts are disabled, and the lens has no electrical communication at all with the camera. It's not just AF cameras. The Super Program is the same way. Having switched to digital and no longer having any film camera bodies I