Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-23 Thread Raimo K
uary 23, 2005 12:14 AM Subject: Re: A vision of Godfrey Hi Raimo: Yup, I'm there as well. Haven't seen you post there lately. Jim Raimo K wrote: So you are on the Leica list, too - I remembered right. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's all a matter of how you prefer to ride. I don't see it as either good or bad. A bit of front end dip is a good feedback signal to the rider with regards to how much braking is being applied, BMW found that out and dialed in a bit of it with the TeleLever front end. It

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's all a matter of how you prefer to ride. I don't see it as either good or bad. A bit of front end dip is a good feedback signal to the rider with regards to how much braking is being applied, BMW found that out and dialed in a bit of it with the TeleLever front end. It helps keep you from loc

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread Jim Hemenway
Hi Godfrey: I think that we also exchanged emails a few years ago about some fellow on a 35mm newsgroup, who was proud that he had talked his way out of getting a databack with his new Pentax. I think that there was no extra charge but that he was suspicious of the NY seller's intentions. I jus

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread Jim Hemenway
Hi Raimo: Yup, I'm there as well. Haven't seen you post there lately. Jim Raimo K wrote: So you are on the Leica list, too - I remembered right. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Yes, traditional LL forks are a bit heavy, regardless, they can work extremely well. Tele forks have their own set of plusses and minuses, including allowing enough dive to steepen the trail on heavy braking to allow for quicker turn-in. Is that a plus or minus in your book

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread mike wilson
Raimo K wrote: Nah, I´d say that the Earles forks have a tendency to jack up the front when braking. If the leverage ratios are designed properly, they shouldn't. Certainly, the effect is much less than the dive with teles. Well adjusted drum brakes are about as good as disc brakes, the reasons

Re: the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread wendy beard
--- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A self portrait gallery would be fun. I know Paul > Jones did the one > that Cotty refered to (that was the one wherein the > now infamous bunny > ears made their debut), but I guess that's gone. > Those obviously > weren't all self-portraits

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> > >>Ever ridden a bike with leading link forks? Yes. BMW R60/2, R69S, a couple of ancient Hodakas, a Guzzi sidecar rig. > >LL forks are excellent. Much better than all but the most expensive > >teles for suspension, although they have a greater mass moment and > >therefore are not so good

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread Raimo K
to either. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: Re: A vision of Godfrey Mark Roberts wrote: Are you

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: Are you sure that isn't because of the drum brakes? ;-) 8-)

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread Raimo K
: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:21 PM Subject: Re: A vision of Godfrey mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Check out the beemer in left-hand photo in the bottom row: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2004ama/midohio/1/ -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Roberts wrote: > > >>Ever ridden a bike with leading link forks? >> >> Nope. Often used for sidecar rigs, as I understand it. >> Check out the beemer in left-hand photo in the bottom row: >> http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2004ama/midohio/1/ > >I

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: >>Ever ridden a bike with leading link forks? Nope. Often used for sidecar rigs, as I understand it. Check out the beemer in left-hand photo in the bottom row: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2004ama/midohio/1/ I think that's a Ural or Dneipr outfit with proprietary forks

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-22 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Roberts wrote: >> Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ooooh. I stand corrected. There *is* something uglier than an Amazonas. >>> >>>I think you're missing the innocent charm of this machine. ]'-) >> >> God, I hope so... >> ;-) >>

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-21 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ooooh. I stand corrected. There *is* something uglier than an Amazonas. I think you're missing the innocent charm of this machine. ]'-) God, I hope so... ;-) Watch it sunshine, or I'll make you ride it whilst you're over here. Ever

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Hi, You think Guzzis are ugly? My MZs can knock them into a cocked hat... http://www.moto-moscow.de/Angebote/Solos/ES/ That's the bike Mikhail Kalashnikov would have designed! Indeed. 90,000 miles in just over five years with an unbelievably small amount spent on consumables. mik

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread mike wilson
Raimo K wrote: Form follows function... or what. Moto Guzzis are not ugly, they are very motorcycle-like motorcycles. All the best! Ugly/beautiful is mere fashion. Form follows function is the only creed. Although the cylinders _do_ bash my knees somewhat. m

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Peter J. Alling
Innocent! That thing looks like a battering ram. Military equipment with protruding ordinance looks more innocent. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You think Guzzis are ugly? Not me, not any of them ... well, except for one or two. My MZs can knock them into a cocked hat... http://www.moto-

Re: the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread ernreed2
Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 03:32:55 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By the way, I count 16 of 32 from that gallery who are still active on > the list almost five years later. That's a pretty healthy record for a mail > list. > > Pau

Re: the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A true self-portrait (only current ones, that is) PUG Gallery would be fun! We could do a page of all those shots we took of each other at GFM last year! Erm, perhaps not. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 03:32:55 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the way, I count 16 of 32 from that gallery who are still active on the > list almost five years later. That's a pretty healthy record for a mail list. > Paul Agreed. I think I joined sometime in late 2000, s

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ooooh. I stand corrected. There *is* something uglier than an >> Amazonas. > >I think you're missing the innocent charm of this machine. ]'-) God, I hope so... ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> >You think Guzzis are ugly? Not me, not any of them ... well, except for one or two. > >My MZs can knock them into a cocked hat... > > > >http://www.moto-moscow.de/Angebote/Solos/ES/ > > Ooooh. I stand corrected. There *is* something uglier than an > Amazonas. I think you're missing the in

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Bob W wrote: >> >>>You think Guzzis are ugly? My MZs can knock them into a cocked hat... >>> >>>http://www.moto-moscow.de/Angebote/Solos/ES/ >> >> That's the bike Mikhail Kalashnikov would have designed! > >Gaston Glock, maybe, but not Mikhail Kalashniko

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Keith Whaley
Bob W wrote: Hi, You think Guzzis are ugly? My MZs can knock them into a cocked hat... http://www.moto-moscow.de/Angebote/Solos/ES/ That's the bike Mikhail Kalashnikov would have designed! Gaston Glock, maybe, but not Mikhail Kalashnikov! keith whaley

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, > You think Guzzis are ugly? My MZs can knock them into a cocked hat... > > http://www.moto-moscow.de/Angebote/Solos/ES/ > That's the bike Mikhail Kalashnikov would have designed! -- Cheers, Bob

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Raimo K
day, February 20, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: Re: A vision of Godfrey You think Guzzis are ugly? My MZs can knock them into a cocked hat... http://www.moto-moscow.de/Angebote/Solos/ES/ Stinkwheels, too. mike

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You think Guzzis are ugly? Well the Guzzi I referred to was. Still, nothing's uglier than an Amazonas (Brazilian bike with an old VW bug motor). >My MZs can knock them into a cocked hat... > >http://www.moto-moscow.de/Angebote/Solos/ES/ Ooooh. I stand c

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.pbase.com/kididdoc/some_leica_photographers Ah! So that's what Godfrey looks like... 6th row, last column. outed! Outed? Hmm. I did that some years ago now. As a

Re: the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Graywolf
Are you counting folks that are still lurking, if not the percentage is higher than that. Then, of course, there are all those who did not put a photo in that gallery but who were on the list back then and still are. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" ---

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.pbase.com/kididdoc/some_leica_photographers Ah! So that's what Godfrey looks like... 6th row, last >> >> column. >> >>>outed! >> >> >> Outed? Hmm. I did that some ye

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Mat Maessen
A photo list on a motorcycle-oriented list server. Who woulda thunk it... :-) BTW, the moto guzzis are beautiful. I don't ride anything close to as exotic (Honda CBR600f2), but I still appreciate a nice bike... Now if it would only get warmer... -Mat On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:03:37 -0800 (PST), God

Re: the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Feb 2005 at 21:35, cbwaters wrote: > I came on-list about the time of that gallery. It's remarkable how few of > those > folks are still around. Consider also that anyone can submit to the PUG there's no requirement to be a PDMLer. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110

Re: the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread pnstenquist
By the way, I count 16 of 32 from that gallery who are still active on the list almost five years later. That's a pretty healthy record for a mail list. Paul > I'd like everyone to know that I still look exactly the same as I did in that > gallery. > Paul > > > > I came on-list about the tim

Re: the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread pnstenquist
I'd like everyone to know that I still look exactly the same as I did in that gallery. Paul > I came on-list about the time of that gallery. It's remarkable how few of > those folks are still around. > > Cory > Is about to play tooth-fairy for the first time. Is that an American thing? > >

the mighty fall: WAS Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread cbwaters
I came on-list about the time of that gallery. It's remarkable how few of those folks are still around. Cory Is about to play tooth-fairy for the first time. Is that an American thing? - Original Message - From: "Cotty" > Meanwhile, have a laugh at some of the PDML:

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Raimo K
/~raikorho - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: Re: A vision of Godfrey Thought I recognized your name too. :-) I was on several Leica lists. I haven't been for quite a while now: th

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thought I recognized your name too. :-) I was on several Leica lists. I haven't been for quite a while now: there's simply too much bickering and posing ... on *all* of them. I don't know why that is, but it is uninteresting to me to read it. I started my own email list through which to show pic

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.pbase.com/kididdoc/some_leica_photographers Ah! So that's what Godfrey looks like... 6th row, last column. outed! Outed? Hmm. I did that some years ago now. As a Guzzi owner, though? That's bravery... 8-) Nice 850T. Mine ha

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Raimo K
So you are on the Leica list, too - I remembered right. All the best! Raimo K Personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho - Original Message - From: "Jim Hemenway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:19 PM Subject:

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >> outed! > >Outed? Hmm. I did that some years ago now. > >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/personal/index.htm ! Apologies mate - I meant it in the sense that you were 'photographically outed' as some of experience from time to time. I a

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.pbase.com/kididdoc/some_leica_photographers >> Ah! So that's what Godfrey looks like... 6th row, last column. > > outed! Outed? Hmm. I did that some years ago now. http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/personal/index.htm For other pictures of me:

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >Gee, it would be nice to have a link, since if there was an original it >didn't get to my mailbox. outed! Jim Hemenway wrote: > Ah! So that's what Godfrey looks like... 6th row,

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Jim Hemenway
Mea Culpa: http://www.pbase.com/kididdoc/some_leica_photographers Peter J. Alling wrote: Gee, it would be nice to have a link, since if there was an original it didn't get to my mailbox. Jim Hemenway wrote: Ah! So that's what Godfrey looks like... 6th row, last column. :-) Jim

Re: A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Peter J. Alling
Gee, it would be nice to have a link, since if there was an original it didn't get to my mailbox. Jim Hemenway wrote: Ah! So that's what Godfrey looks like... 6th row, last column. :-) Jim -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the side

A vision of Godfrey

2005-02-19 Thread Jim Hemenway
Ah! So that's what Godfrey looks like... 6th row, last column. :-) Jim