on 05.04.02 20:45, Chris Brogden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The MZ-S is metal, is quiet and has spot metering.
Quiet is pretty subjective. I don't find Pentax's AF quiet at all, even
in the MZ-S. The noise is hardly noticeable when the lens locks focus
quickly, but when the camera has
Chris wrote:
Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering?
Yes it does. However, the cheesy outer plastic cover doesn't give that
metal or quality feel.
Pål
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Bruce wrote:
Why not just buy a Pentax Spotmeter to use with your favorite bodies?
I can see several reasons why not: the point of small Pentax bodies seems
quite pointless if you have to carry a rather bulky spotmeter as well; you
loose automatic functions while spot metering; no
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering?
Yes it does. However, the cheesy outer plastic cover doesn't give that
metal or quality feel.
True enough. I remember how surprised I was when you mentioned earlier
that it had a metal
Buy a Pentax Spotmeter V. You can usually pick one up for around $100
used.
Paul
Steve Pearson wrote:
Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again.
I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that
has spot metering? I think it really bites that I
have to spend $800 on an MZ-S?
Any
It certainly does.
Len
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Steve Pearson wrote:
I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal
Some one from the list took a PZ1P apart one time and it does have a metal
body or at least a metal framing.
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Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:27 PM
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Subject: Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Steve
Chris wrote:
True enough. I remember how surprised I was when you mentioned earlier
that it had a metal chassis... I never suspected that.
The chassis can be seen when looking in near the lens mount where the DOF
lever is.
I've almost given
up hope that Pentax will come out with an AF
Steve wrote:
Why didn't they ever
make one? Just curious..
Because back in the metal camera days, spot metering wasn't that hot. Spot
metering didn't really become common until the plastic fantastic days.
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The in-body spot meters are 3 degree.
Almost small area rather than spot.
Then hand-held meter is 1 degree.
There's a vast improvement available with separates.
Collin
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The in-body spot meters are 3 degree.
Almost small area rather than spot.
Then hand-held meter is 1 degree.
There's a vast improvement available with separates.
Collin
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Pål Audun Jensen wrote:
Chris wrote:
I've almost given
up hope that Pentax will come out with an AF camera that I like (they're
all way too noisy, and I'm not happy with the controls), but an LX with
spot metering... ah, there's something to dream about.
The MZ-S is
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 12:46 PM, T Rittenhouse wrote:
You know, it seems to have gotten to the point where the
druggies won't even steal your camera if it doesn't have the right
features. But then, my mother was like that about kitchen stoves.
I think that is an absolutely perfect
Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again.
I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that
has spot metering? I think it really bites that I
have to spend $800 on an MZ-S?
Any other suggestions out there?
Thanks for the help...still searching...
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Steve Pearson wrote:
I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that has spot
metering? I think it really bites that I have to spend $800 on an
MZ-S?
Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering?
chris
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Subject: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again.
I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that
has spot metering? I think it really bites that I
have to spend $800 on an MZ-S?
Any other suggestions out there?
Thanks for the help
Buy a spotmeter. It works better
than one in a body anyway.
JCO
Subject: Metal bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again.
I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that
has spot metering? I think it really bites that I
have to spend $800 on an MZ-S
Steve,
Why not just buy a Pentax Spotmeter to use with your favorite bodies?
Bruce Dayton
Thursday, April 04, 2002, 7:19:05 PM, you wrote:
SP Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again.
SP I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that
SP has spot metering? I think it really bites
Why not just buy a Pentax Spotmeter to use with your
favorite bodies?
Bruce Dayton
OK, OK, maybe that's an alternative. Still means
extra equipment to carry around. Why didn't they ever
make one? Just curious..
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OK, OK, maybe that's an alternative. Still means
extra equipment to carry around. Why didn't they ever
make one? Just curious..
/snip
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 19:19:05 -0800 (PST), Steve Pearson wrote:
Hi all-Sorry for the simiar post again.
I can't believe it-Pentax never made a metal body that
has spot metering? I think it really bites that I
have to spend $800 on an MZ-S?
Well, you could spend $2000 on a 645 or 67.
tv
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In a message dated 4/4/2002 7:22:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering?
PZ-1 and PZ-1p both definitely have spot-metering -- I don't know for sure
about the metal chassis (read someplace that it did, but since I
--- David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve,
Used K1000 ($120 US)
Used Pentax Digital Spot Meter ($175 US)
That's what I currently use for spot metering... and
metal body :-)
Cheers,
Dave
Do you have a recommendation for a Pentax Digital spot
meter-which model were you
Doesn't the Z-1p have a metal chassis and spot metering?
But then the plastic top and bottom plates hardly qualify as metal body. At
least the bottom plate is rather prone to crack.
regards,
Alan Chan
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Hi,
Would you feel better about this if you noticed that the ones with
the date back are priced lower than the ones without? (Used to be
the case on the BH website; I haven't looked lately to see if they
still list it without, for more.)
I used to own an MZ-5n with a dateback. I then made
Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it me, or is the Ricoh XR-M a copy of the SF1n?
It's you, Steve. If you've ever peered through an XR-M, you'd know what I
mean. The interface looks like the cockpit of a jet fighter. And TTL side
flash, like the Contax T* and Olympus XA series of
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Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it me, or is the Ricoh XR-M a copy of the SF1n?
It's you, Steve. If you've ever peered through an XR-M, you'd know what I
mean. The interface
So, I assume you folks that own a RIcoh XRM have been
happy with this camera body? It has held up well?
WHat exactly do you mean it looks like a jet fighter?
I have not had a chance to look at one of these
before.
Will my Pentax AF200T flash provide TTL flash with
this body?
Thanks again...
I am giving serious thought to this camera. I guess,
based on the responses to my post, there are no older
metal-style bodies that have spot metering? I was
hoping to maybe save a few $'s.
thanks again.
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve,
I think I would recommend the ZX-5n.
Sorry, one more question for ZX 5N owners. I would
prefer to buy this camera without the date back, but
it seems that every dealer in the US sells it with the
date back? Has anyone found a place to buy one
without the date back?
Thanks for your help!
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Steve Pearson wrote:
Sorry, one more question for ZX 5N owners. I would
prefer to buy this camera without the date back, but
it seems that every dealer in the US sells it with the
date back? Has anyone found a place to buy one
without the date back?
I bought mine from
I realize I could turn that feature off. I just don't
want to pay extra for a feature that I will never use.
I've had a Super Program for 20+ years and never
needed a date back. So, the camera that came from
KEH-Did it have a date back on it or not? Just
curious..
--- gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve,
Surprisingly, you will pay extra to not have that feature. I suspect
that the cost to Pentax between the two backs has more to do with
volume than the feature. Since all the other ZX bodies use the same
back, it is cheaper to just supply the date back. When I have seen
the ZX-5n
Sorry, Jeff, I've never owned that camera (or its dedicated side flash). So I don't
know if it's repairable, but I doubt a repair would be cost-effective. Adorama has one
of the side flashes in its Used Ricoh gear, and Google can usually turn up a few.
Jeff wrote: Paul,
I have one of those
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Steve Pearson wrote:
needed a date back. So, the camera that came from
KEH-Did it have a date back on it or not? Just
curious..
Guess I neglected to mention that part.. yes, it did.
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No but you can just shut it off, MY MZ-3 has the date
back always off, you can also pull the battery to
really make sure it doesn't work.
--- Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, one more question for ZX 5N owners. I would
prefer to buy this camera without the date back, but
it
not
expensive, and change it yourself. it's easy.
Len
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From: Steve Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Sorry, one more question for ZX 5N owners. I would
prefer to buy
In a message dated 4/2/2002 8:46:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry, one more question for ZX 5N owners. I would
prefer to buy this camera without the date back, but
it seems that every dealer in the US sells it with the
date back? Has anyone found a place to
In a message dated 4/2/2002 9:08:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I realize I could turn that feature off. I just don't
want to pay extra for a feature that I will never use.
I've had a Super Program for 20+ years and never
needed a date back. So, the camera that
I havent had it long enough to pass a judgement on it (i like it so
far). You can see the links below for other people's opinion.
http://www.chem.helsinki.fi/~toomas/photo/ricoh-xrm-review.html
http://www.camerareview.com/templates/reviews.cfm?camera_id=338
I doubt if af200t would give you ttl
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From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Bodies w/ Spot Metering?
Will my Pentax AF200T flash provide TTL flash with
this body?
No, but the Ricoh 300P will.
Jeff.
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Thanks for all the help with the Ricoh info. I bid on
one on Ebay lost it. Oh well-probably a good sign.
Still, I can't believe that there is not one older
Pentax brand body style that has spot metering???
Come on, please, some one tell me there is one. Or
else, I might be forced to get the
Looks like there is an increased interest in ricoh cameras recently and
prices seem to be going up :) I got my xr-m with 50/1.4 ricoh p lens for
$66. I saw body alone with px flashlight go for $102.5 today :)
If you are patient about it, you can get one cheaply enough.
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at
Did you get it off Ebay, private party, or local
camera store?
Thanks for the info.-that was the camera that I bid on
today! Now that I know what you paid for yours, I'm
glad I didn't win it.
Thanks again!
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oh, it was a non-ebay sale hence the low price :) Dont expect to get it
for what i paid since i got a rather good deal. But yeah, 100 is too
much for it (not that it isnt worth it) considering its demand.
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:51:23PM -0800, Steve Pearson wrote:
Did you get it off Ebay,
Are you looking for an old manual focus body or a new(er) AF body?
Bruce Dayton
Monday, April 01, 2002, 4:18:53 PM, you wrote:
SP Hi all:
SP I'm looking for some reference help. I currently own
SP a Super Program various lenses. I would like to add
SP a Pentax body that has spot
On 1 Apr 2002 at 16:18, Steve Pearson wrote:
Hi all:
I'm looking for some reference help. I currently own
a Super Program various lenses. I would like to add
a Pentax body that has spot metering. Any suggestions
out there?
Start here:
http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/
Check the specs
PZ-20, Mz-3, mz-5n, pz-1p, pz-1, mz-6, mz-s. I'm sure
there's more I
left out.
--- Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all:
I'm looking for some reference help. I currently
own
a Super Program various lenses. I would like to
add
a Pentax body that has spot metering. Any
Some Ricoh manual focus bodies have spot metering. And they are cheaper
than pentax bodies too.
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:53PM -0800, Steve Pearson wrote:
Hi all:
I'm looking for some reference help. I currently own
a Super Program various lenses. I would like to add
a Pentax body
I was kind of leaning towards an older, manual focus
body. But, I could go either way.
--- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you looking for an old manual focus body or a
new(er) AF body?
Bruce Dayton
Monday, April 01, 2002, 4:18:53 PM, you wrote:
SP Hi all:
SP I'm
Do you have any specific Ricoh model numbers that you
can reference? Are you sure that they will all accept
my Pentax lenses? Wouldn't I lose some of the
metering (i.e. A settings) of my SMC-A lenses?
Thanks for the help...
--- Nitin Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some Ricoh manual focus
I have a Ricoh XRX-3PF that takes K-mount lenses. It has spot metering. I
believe this Ricoh was the last one made.
Jim A.
From: Steve Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:18:53 -0800 (PST)
To: Pentax Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bodies w
My ricoh xr-m has it (called xr-x in europe). xr-x3pf has already been
mentioned. These 2 might be the only one IIRR. You can check up ricoh
manuals online at http://www.butkus.org/chinon/index.html -- great site
to read up on these k-mount underdogs. You do lose the A-setting. I am
not sure but
Is it me, or is the Ricoh XR-M a copy of the SF1n? Is
there not an older, manual focus Pentax body with spot
metering? I guess I would like to stay with the
feel of the metal bodies made by Pentax. What about
the Spotmatic bodies?
Again, thanks for all your help. I'm still
undecided...
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