Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-25 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I've been thinking about this for a long time now. I have few tens of thousands of photos that were taken by *istD (PEF) or K10D (also PEF, shame on me). I could convert them to DNG and discard (is it smart?) the originals. Do you think it is a good idea? Do I need to worry about compati

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Alastair Robertson
I routinely convert my PEF's into DNG's on import into lightroom (and throw away the PEF at that time) and have the lightroom catalog set to write the metadata into the DNG. That way, if the files are moved from one catalog to another, the keywords, develop settings etc go with them without the ne

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread DagT
I keep a separate disc with DNG-versions of my PEF-files, but do not delete the PEFs. DagT Sendt fra min iPad Den 26. okt. 2012 kl. 07:08 skrev Boris Liberman : > Hi! > > I've been thinking about this for a long time now. I have few tens of > thousands of photos that were taken by *istD (PEF

RE: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread J.C. O'Connell
is there an app to convert dng to pef? - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Convert PEF to D

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread DagT
> > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:46 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not? > > I keep a separate disc with DNG-versions of my PEF-files, b

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Featherstone
On Behalf Of DagT >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:46 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not? >> >> I keep a separate disc with DNG-versions of my PEF-files, but do not delete >> the PEFs. >> >> DagT >> >

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread DagT
an app to convert dng to pef? >>> >>> - >>> J.C.O'Connell >>> hifis...@gate.net >>> - >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT >>> Sent: F

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Eric Featherstone
;> - >>>> J.C.O'Connell >>>> hifis...@gate.net >>>> - >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT >>>> Sent: Friday, Oct

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
>>>> Sendt fra min iPad >>>> >>>> Den 26. okt. 2012 kl. 12:55 skrev "J.C. O'Connell" : >>>> >>>>> is there an app to convert dng to pef? >>>>> >>>>> ----------------- >>>>> J.

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread DagT
gt; Den 26. okt. 2012 kl. 12:55 skrev "J.C. O'Connell" : >>>>> >>>>>> is there an app to convert dng to pef? >>>>>> >>>>>> - >>>>>> J.C.O'Connell >>>>>> h

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Bruce Walker
"I should have kept the PEF files." -- said by no-one, ever. :-) I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of them). DNG is essentially a superset of PEF and they are both lossless formats. DNG has wide indust

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread DagT
There is some scepticism toward Adobe and formats, like PDF is not necessarily compatible. So er cannot know for sure, and as long as I have an extra disc it is better to be safe. DagT Sendt fra min iPad Den 26. okt. 2012 kl. 13:36 skrev Bruce Walker : > "I should have kept the PEF files." --

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Bruce Walker
You're talking about doubling your disk usage. Disk space is cheap, but not *that* cheap. Especially if you're talking about K-5 files which are 2-3 times larger than the K20 files that I'm used to. I keep lots of rendered JPEGs at various sizes. But these are all quite small and I don't have JPEG

RE: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread J.C. O'Connell
7:37 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not? "I should have kept the PEF files." -- said by no-one, ever. :-) I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of the

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Bruce Walker
Of Bruce Walker > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:37 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not? > > "I should have kept the PEF files." -- said by no-one, ever. :-) > > I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread George Sinos
ML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:37 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not? > > "I should have kept the PEF files." -- said by no-one, ever. :-) > > I do what Alastair doe

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Walker "I should have kept the PEF files." -- said by no-one, ever. :-) I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of them). DNG is essentially a superset of PEF and they are both lossless formats

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Paul Sorenson
My experience is that converting PEFs while importing into LR4 results in a slightly smaller file size than shooting DNGs in camera (K-5). Anybody else noticed this? -p On 10/26/2012 10:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote: What about shooting with DNG as your raw format instead of PEF? Pros & Cons?

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Bruce Walker >> "I should have kept the PEF files." -- said by no-one, ever. :-) >> >> I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out >> all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of them). >> >>

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Since K-7 I shoot exclusively in DNG. In fact, I chose Ricoh GXR over other similar cameras also because its native RAW format is DNG. It is just that I have about 10K shots made with *istD and 20K shots made with K10D that are PEFs. I should have switched to DNG with K10D, but PEFs were small

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Bruce Walker > >> "I should have kept the PEF files." -- said by no-one, ever. :-) >> >> I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out >> all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of them). >> >

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Depends on the camera body. The K10D and K20D create DNGs with no > compression at all, so they quickly fill up SD cards. So I shoot PEF > (compressed) and convert to DNG on import (then nuke the PEFs). > > The K-5 and probably all more recen

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-26 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Paul Stenquist : On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Bruce Walker "I should have kept the PEF files." -- said by no-one, ever. :-) I do what Alastair does. I've shot raws since 2007 and I've tossed out all the PEFs, keeping only the converted DNGs (some 37,000 of

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-28 Thread Boris Liberman
GOn 10/26/2012 9:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's very easy to convert PEF files (any compatible native raw files, as a matter of fact) to DNG format in Lightroom. Just select all the PEF files in the Library module (grid view) and then choose the "Convert to DNG" command from the Library menu

Re: Convert PEF to DNG or not?

2012-10-29 Thread George Sinos
I can't think of a reason to convert to anything but the latest version unless you haven't upgraded Lightroom or Photoshop. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > GOn 10/26/2012