Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-01 Thread Thibouille
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/eye-fi/ -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link direct

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-01 Thread Brendan MacRae
ROTFLMAO!: "Lastly it's probably worth pondering the point of this product, do people really have problems plugging their cameras into a USB cable / placing the card in a card reader / placing the camera on a dock?" Is dpreview reading this list? (sorry, couldn't help it!);-] -Brendan --- T

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2007-11-01 Thread Bob Blakely
I don't need this thingy myself, but with a couple 18 dBi gain antennas on a private WIFI & laptop back at a sat hookup news vehicle, it could be great for covering news events in real time... I suppose... maybe the wildfires out here... to make deadline... maybe... There's a fellow who's somet

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2007-11-01 Thread Adam Maas
DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and these cards are little more than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi mode on the Nikon Coolpix P3 I used to have). A pro user might see some actual benefit. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: > ROTFLMAO!: > > "Lastly it's probably worth pondering

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-01 Thread Tom C
ice are exaggerated. Tom C. >From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed. >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:42:39 -0700 (PDT) > > >--- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Thibouille
Maybe let's imagine the following situation: You have lots of pics to take and you can't take the time to change cards otherwise you might lose a couple important shots. I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi seems slow unfortunately) so all pics would be uploaded into my laptop in my ba

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2007-11-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Brendan MacRae" Subject: Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed. > > --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and these >> cards are little more >> than cool toys for the cons

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2007-11-02 Thread Adam Maas
Brendan MacRae wrote: > --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and these >> cards are little more >> than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi >> mode on the Nikon >> Coolpix P3 I used to have). A pro user might see >> some actual benefit.

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2007-11-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Thibouille wrote: >Maybe let's imagine the following situation: >You have lots of pics to take and you can't take the time to change >cards otherwise you might lose a couple important shots. > >I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card (eye-fi seems slow >unfortunately) so all pics would be uploade

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2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brendan MacRae wrote: > > --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and > these > >> cards are little more > >> than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi > >> mode on the Nikon > >> Coolpix P3 I

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Brendan MacRae wrote: >--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I have a friend who shoots the graduation ceremonies >> at Carnegie Mellon >> University and this would probably be ideal for him. >> You need to get a >> shot of each student getting his/her diploma; >> there's a *lot* of

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2007-11-02 Thread David Savage
On 11/3/07, Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers. > Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such > situations back when we all shot film ? Of course the managed. But they sure didn't have the capacity to sell prints after the ceromony. Chee

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2007-11-02 Thread pnstenquist
Pros used multiple bodies and assistants to reload. When my son graduated from high shool in the early nineties, a film shooter shot each kid getting his diploma. He had three cameras and a nimble fingered assistant. One of the local pros told me that he started nis career as a PA in New York. A

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thibouille wrote: > > >Maybe let's imagine the following situation: > >You have lots of pics to take and you can't take > the time to change > >cards otherwise you might lose a couple important > shots. > > > >I can imagine a fast enough wifi sd card

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2007-11-02 Thread P. J. Alling
Usually the higher the speed, the greater the current draw, (that seems to be an immutable law, though I can't remember why at the moment), so either you risk being between cards when that once in a lifetime image happens or batteries... Thibouille wrote: > Maybe let's imagine the following sit

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2007-11-02 Thread Adam Maas
Brendan MacRae wrote: > --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Brendan MacRae wrote: >>> --- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and >> these cards are little more than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi mode on th

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2007-11-02 Thread Paul Crovella
Geez, you're right. It's a wonder they ever even went digital at all. Brendan MacRae wrote: > --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thibouille wrote: >> >>> Maybe let's imagine the following situation: >>> You have lots of pics to take and you can't take >> the time to change >>> cards

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread P. J. Alling
Two, maybe three identical camera bodies and lenses, and an assistant to reload... Brendan MacRae wrote: > --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Thibouille wrote: >> >> >>> Maybe let's imagine the following situation: >>> You have lots of pics to take and you can't take >>>

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
me software > that managed which > networks/destinations images could be uploaded to. > > The 'no thought' needed claims of this device are > exaggerated. > > Tom C. > > >From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

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2007-11-02 Thread Adam Maas
Life's little Irony, I'm primarily a film shooter. -Adam Paul Crovella wrote: > Relax, Brendan, I'm just mocking you. > > Your arguments have been the same dismissive whining that's plagued every > step of > technological progress - "but what was so hard about the way we *used* to do > thing

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Paul Crovella
Relax, Brendan, I'm just mocking you. Your arguments have been the same dismissive whining that's plagued every step of technological progress - "but what was so hard about the way we *used* to do things?" It's little more than a tantrum about change. Having found it pointless to deal with ar

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-01 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DPReview is primarily consumer oriented, and these > cards are little more > than cool toys for the consumer (My like thw WiFi > mode on the Nikon > Coolpix P3 I used to have). A pro user might see > some actual benefit. > > -Adam > I think you'll n

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2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Paul Crovella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Geez, you're right. It's a wonder they ever even > went digital at all. > It's only a wonder if you agree that wired image transfer to WiFi transfer will bring about the same sea change as film to digital certainly has. I don't. But, perhaps I'm j

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2007-11-02 Thread Tom C
>"Most Pros' are going to be running higher-end CaNikon gear, which already >has WiFi capabilities. >This is the card for the rare few who use Pentax or >Panasonic mid-range kit (or those running low->end kit). > >-Adam How dare you! Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net htt

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2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Life's little Irony, I'm primarily a film shooter. > > -Adam > > lol! ;-] -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Brendan MacRae" Subject: Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed. >> Nobody pauses a ceremony for photographers. > Understood. So, how is it that photogs managed such > situations back when we all shot film ? > > I used to have as many as 4

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Paul Crovella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Relax, Brendan, I'm just mocking you. > > Your arguments have been the same dismissive whining > that's plagued every step of > technological progress - "but what was so hard about > the way we *used* to do things?" > > It's little more than a tan

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2007-11-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Paul Crovella > Relax, Brendan, I'm just mocking you. > > Your arguments have been the same dismissive whining that's plagued > every step of technological progress OTOH, just calling something technological progress don't necessarily make it so; not if it means I got to do more work to

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2007-11-02 Thread Thibouille
I think that the problem isn't there. It IS a technological progress. On a strict technological point of view, it sure is. Now in broader sense of the term, is a progress. That is a totally different question. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t an

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2007-11-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brendan, Can you say photographer's assistant. Have you never seen them handing over a fresh camera and reloading? Regards, Bob S. On 11/2/07, Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thibouille wrote: > > > > >Maybe let's imagine the followi

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Tom C
ecognized that others may. Fourth off, he's said that down the road it might be very mainstream. Fifth, he's not alone in his opinions. Give the guy a break. Tom C. >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: &quo

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2007-11-02 Thread P. J. Alling
Seen it? Heck, I've done it. (Before I gave up the idea of ever actually making a real living at photography, I dreamed of the day I could afford my own lackey). Bob Sullivan wrote: > Brendan, > Can you say photographer's assistant. > Have you never seen them handing over a fresh camera and re

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
others may. > > Fourth off, he's said that down the road it might be very mainstream. > > Fifth, he's not alone in his opinions. > > Give the guy a break. > > > > Tom C. > > > >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
, he's said that down the road it might be > very mainstream. > > Fifth, he's not alone in his opinions. > > Give the guy a break. > > > > Tom C. > > > >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss

RE: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Tom C
LOL. Sometimes Bob Sullivan gets carried away you know. ;-) Tom C. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Brendan MacRae > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:23 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Eye-

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2007-11-02 Thread P. J. Alling
>> Fifth, he's not alone in his opinions. >> >> Give the guy a break. >> >> >> >> Tom C. >> >> >> >>> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brendan, > Can you say photographer's assistant. > Have you never seen them handing over a fresh camera > and reloading? > Regards, Bob S. > Yeah, in fact that was my point, Bob. -Brendan __ Do You

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2007-11-02 Thread graywolf
They used three cameras and an assistant to reload them, so they always had a loaded camera in their hands. They also only took one shot of each person. The prints were usually done at an over-night lab and mailed to the customer the next day. Most of the immediate print stuff, often call Cabar

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2007-11-02 Thread graywolf
And maybe you never have tried to make a living as an event photographer. http://graywolfphoto.com/work.html The Ren-Faire stuff was done develop and print 120 film, return the next weekend and try to sell prints. You are very lucky to sell 1/3 of the prints that way where if you can deliver t

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread graywolf
eam. > > Fifth, he's not alone in his opinions. > > Give the guy a break. > > > > Tom C. > > >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"

Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed.

2007-11-02 Thread graywolf
Most of those lackies don't even expect to be paid. P. J. Alling wrote: > Seen it? Heck, I've done it. (Before I gave up the idea of ever > actually making a real living at photography, I dreamed of the day I > could afford my own lackey). > > Bob Sullivan wrote: >> Brendan, >> Can you say ph

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2007-11-02 Thread Brendan MacRae
Those are nice shots, BTW. And you're right, I haven't done any events where I tried to sell prints on site. I doubt I ever will either only because it isn't especially appealing to me. I do product shots and the occassional events, parties and corporate stuff. I like selling my time, then selling

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2007-11-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sorry Brendan, I have just been skimming this thread of non-sense, so I took your comment as sincere and replied. Regards, Bob S. On 11/2/07, Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Brendan, > > Can you say photographer's assistant. > > Have

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2007-11-02 Thread Tom C
2007 6:59 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Eye-fi SDCard reviewed. > > Well, Tom, think of it this way; when we are beating up on him, we are giving > you a break. But, unlike you, he came off as wanting to know why some of us > thought such an accessory would be

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2007-11-03 Thread John Sessoms
From: graywolf > Most of those lackies don't even expect to be paid. Maybe not much, but they got paid somehow ... training, access to the darkroom, second hand equipment ... moving up to shooting assistant handling paid assignments. Or maybe even minimum wage - back when minimum wage actually

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2007-11-03 Thread Bob Blakely
KICK HIM WHEN HE'S DOWN! KICK HIM WHEN HE'S DOWN! KICK HIM WHEN HE'S DOWN! I wouldn't normally do this, but since my accident, it's too hard to kick 'um when they're up! Sorry Brendan, but every large list must have it's monthly whipping boy to reduce tension and reduce the frequency of flames.

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2007-11-04 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > KICK HIM WHEN HE'S DOWN! > KICK HIM WHEN HE'S DOWN! > KICK HIM WHEN HE'S DOWN! > > I wouldn't normally do this, but since my accident, > it's too hard to kick > 'um when they're up! > > Sorry Brendan, but every large list must have it's > monthly wh