Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-20 Thread Larry Colen
I've been using the fluidr and flickriver front ends for flickr for several years now. They provide a much superior front end. Flickr has gone and broke the api and they no longer work. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-20 Thread steve harley
On 2015-08-20 24:34 , Larry Colen wrote: I've been using the fluidr and flickriver front ends for flickr for several years now. They provide a much superior front end. Flickr has gone and broke the api and they no longer work. sounds like partial breakage — i was just able to paste the tail

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-19 Thread Doug Brewer
I'd imagine it's the people who are tired of being asked to install the Flickr app. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: ... Which, of course, leads to the question of who is throwing their phone into,the toilet on purpose. :-) Godfrey On Aug 14, 2015,

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-17 Thread Bulent Celasun
BTW, nothing is free. It took me about half a century to realize that :( Now, I know. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-17 Thread Eric Weir
On Aug 14, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: On iOS 8 and later, developers can supply app extensions in addition to apps. What this provides is a secure way for, say, Photos to directly use the Flickr Uploader without the Flickr app having access to the Photos

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Weir
On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: The assumption seems to be that every photo we take is perfect. You are being to achieve wisdom, grasshopper Well, I don’t know about wisdom, photography-wise anyway. I do know that by far most of my images are worthless.

RE: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: So it seems the only way to get back to square one with the Christmas album is to go ahead and delete all the photos in the

RE: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Bob W
: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards On Aug 11, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I haven't noticed them trying to get anything from me. And to my tastes their app works fine. If they asked for suggestions for improvement, I wouldn't know what to say. But perhaps I am just

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread John
I wonder if it would be possible to download from Flickr the 12 edited photos you want to keep, and upload them again after you delete the album? On 8/14/2015 8:10 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Aug 11, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I haven't noticed them trying to get

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Weir
On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:44 AM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: I wonder if it would be possible to download from Flickr the 12 edited photos you want to keep, and upload them again after you delete the album? Not necessary, John. For one, I still have the original edited copies in

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Weir
On Aug 14, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir. Albums will continue to appear in the original order?? Surely not!! That is the nature of streams. I understand that about

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On iOS 8 and later, developers can supply app extensions in addition to apps. What this provides is a secure way for, say, Photos to directly use the Flickr Uploader without the Flickr app having access to the Photos secure, sandboxed file system. The Flickr app delivers an app extension that

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Weir
On Aug 14, 2015, at 1:08 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2015-08-14 6:10 , Eric Weir wrote: As one poster on the Flickr help forum suggested, auto upload should have been an opt-in not an op-out feature. Why anyone would want ALL the photos they take uploaded to Flickr is

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Bob W-PDML
I expect a Japanese toilet designer already has something on the drawing board to detect the presence of a phone falling past the rim and automatically send all the contents (of the phone, not the toilet, though I'm not sure a mere algorithm would be able to tell the difference) to Flickr.

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread steve harley
On 2015-08-14 11:35 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I think the assumption is that most people would rather be surprised and delighted that all the photos they've taken, whether good or bad, are retrievable when they drop their phone into the toilet by accident*. good point; i personally like

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: I expect a Japanese toilet designer already has something on the drawing board to detect the presence of a phone falling past the rim and automatically send all the contents (of the phone, not the toilet, though I'm

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
... Which, of course, leads to the question of who is throwing their phone into,the toilet on purpose. :-) Godfrey On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: I think the assumption is that most people would rather be surprised and delighted that all the photos

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I think the assumption is that most people would rather be surprised and delighted that all the photos they've taken, whether good or bad, are retrievable when they drop their phone into the toilet by accident*. * I seem to recall reading that 70% (or some gawdawful percentage like that) of

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Weir
Yes, a much more charitable interpretation. And of course, Flickr aside, I'm already saving all my photos, including the great majority that are not worth saving, on hard drives via Lightroom. Perhaps at some point I'll decide having a backup in the cloud somewhere as well is wise. On Aug 14,

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread steve harley
On 2015-08-14 6:10 , Eric Weir wrote: As one poster on the Flickr help forum suggested, auto upload should have been an opt-in not an op-out feature. Why anyone would want ALL the photos they take uploaded to Flickr is beyond me. The assumption seems to be that every photo we take is

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015, at 03:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: ... Which, of course, leads to the question of who is throwing their phone into,the toilet on purpose. :-) Many's the time I've considered it... And the laptop too. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread steve harley
On 2015-08-14 12:41 , Eric Weir wrote: By “Flickr extension” do you mean the app? Godfrey explained the concept; specifically you use the Flickr extension when you are viewing an image in Photos, you click the send to icon (square with an arrow extending up from it), and you choose Flickr —

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Weir
On Aug 11, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I haven't noticed them trying to get anything from me. And to my tastes their app works fine. If they asked for suggestions for improvement, I wouldn't know what to say. But perhaps I am just naive. Well, I have to eat my

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Bill
On 14/08/2015 6:10 AM, Eric Weir wrote: The assumption seems to be that every photo we take is perfect. Yes well, for some of us, that is just how it works. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Weir
On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: So it seems the only way to get back to square one with the Christmas album is to go ahead and delete all the photos in the upload album and then re-upload the 12 edited copies from Lightroom. After I do that I’d like to

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Weir
On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: So it seems the only way to get back to square one with the Christmas album is to go ahead and delete all the photos in the upload album and then re-upload the 12 edited copies from Lightroom. A lot of trouble that I

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-12 Thread steve harley
On 2015-08-11 19:16 , Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:03:07 -0700 wrote: The Flickr app is free - I don't pay for it, it takes no input or information from or about me that the website doesn't already have or acquire from use. That's true only if you keep your

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-12 Thread steve harley
On 2015-08-11 15:19 , Bob W-PDML wrote: It's part of a general trend towards the Compuserve/AOL model of trying to lock people into proprietary access to stuff so that the vendors can get their sweaty hands on your teats and milk you. i understand the feeling, and i sympathize with Knarf's

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 12, 2015, at 1:41 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2015-08-11 19:16 , Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:03:07 -0700 wrote: The Flickr app is free - I don't pay for it, it takes no input or information from or about me that the website doesn't

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-12 Thread Igor PDML-StR
steve harley Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:42:07 -0700 wrote: On 2015-08-11 19:16 , Igor PDML-StR wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:03:07 -0700 wrote: The Flickr app is free - I don't pay for it, it takes no input or information from or about me that the website doesn't already have or

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Mark Roberts
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Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't participate in this general overweening cynicism and paranoia Facebook sucks big time anyway. I don't give them any information I don't have to, and hate it that all you who only communicate using it forces me to have an account there to communicate with you. The Flickr app is free -

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
It's part of a general trend towards the Compuserve/AOL model of trying to lock people into proprietary access to stuff so that the vendors can get their sweaty hands on your teats and milk you. B On 11 Aug 2015, at 22:02, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: I don't participate in this

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Eric Weir
I haven't noticed them trying to get anything from me. And to my tastes their app works fine. If they asked for suggestions for improvement, I wouldn't know what to say. But perhaps I am just naive. On Aug 11, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: It's part of a general

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Eric Weir
Your preference rules, Frank. I've got the app on my iPhone. I click on a link and look at a photo in the app. I'm not partial to my browser, especially if there's something that will do the job better. Regards, Eric On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:44 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
No probelm on my flip phone Frank.:-) Dave On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is I didn't want to download their app. I don't care if it's free. I want to click on a link and look at a photo on my browser without having to join, register and be

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Knarf
The issue is I didn't want to download their app. I don't care if it's free. I want to click on a link and look at a photo on my browser without having to join, register and be a part of something. I think it's despicable behaviour on their part. Perhaps I'm alone in my thinking; wouldn't be

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Bill
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards Sorry for the vulgarity but that just shows how angry I am. I'm cussin' mad! I haven't commented on any Flickr images for a while because they're all horribly fuzzy on my Android. When I'm on a computer they're fine, but unviewable on my

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Stanley Halpin
Frank, don’t worry, be appy… stan On Aug 10, 2015, at 11:28 PM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the vulgarity but that just shows how angry I am. I'm cussin' mad! I haven't commented on any Flickr images for a while because they're all horribly fuzzy on my Android. When

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Whatever. They don't force you to use their app. The fact that your browser is screwing up the photo display isn't Flickr's fault. Get a different browser if that one is screwing up the display. I pay for Flickr Pro service because I value it. I've been on Flickr since 2008 and have never

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 11 Aug 2015, at 11:17, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is I didn't want to download their app. I don't care if it's free. I want to click on a link and look at a photo on my browser without having to join, register and be a part of something. I think it's despicable

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread ann sanfedele
I'm with you guyson this. Facebook keeps wanting me to give them my phone number (slightly diff, but related) tellin gme that will be safer. huh? I think not. On the otherhand, I'd like it if everyone who was viewing photos online would skip doing that on their phones and wait until they got

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Frank, It is not just you. I also refuse installing Flickr app. If someone wants to do that, I have no problem, and it can be useful for uploading your gallery or socializing with other Flickrers. But my phone is not a dump to install an individual app for each website that created it. All

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Larry Colen
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The Flickr app is free - I don't pay for it, it takes no input or information from or about me that the website doesn't already have or acquire from use. Flickr's crappy little app is in most ways better implemented than their browser pages, and presents photos

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Knarf
Bottom line: I'll whine if I feel like it! LOL cheers, frank On 11 August, 2015 5:02:11 PM EDT, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: I don't participate in this general overweening cynicism and paranoia Facebook sucks big time anyway. I don't give them any information I don't have to, and

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Godfrey DiGiorgi Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:03:07 -0700 wrote: Facebook sucks big time anyway. I don't give them any information I don't have to, and hate it that all you who only communicate using it forces me to have an account there to communicate with you. And I have it disabled on my cell

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Superb! Mark Roberts Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:43:39 -0700 wrote: http://xkcd.com/1174/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015, at 08:14 AM, Knarf wrote: Bottom line: I'll whine if I feel like it! I'm with you! Whine on!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ LOL cheers, frank On 11 August,

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Knarf
Well, we don't get much call for it around here, sir. Cheers, frank On 11 August, 2015 11:58:50 PM EDT, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: Can we at least get some cheese with that whine? On 8/11/2015 7:22 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015, at 08:14 AM, Knarf wrote: Bottom line:

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread Mark Roberts
On 8/11/2015 7:22 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015, at 08:14 AM, Knarf wrote: Bottom line: I'll whine if I feel like it! I'm with you! Whine on!! I agree completely. True, there's very little chance they'll change anything but if no one complains there's a 0% chance they'll

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-11 Thread John
Can we at least get some cheese with that whine? On 8/11/2015 7:22 PM, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015, at 08:14 AM, Knarf wrote: Bottom line: I'll whine if I feel like it! I'm with you! Whine on!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-10 Thread Alan C
You mean you had to pay for the app? Alan C -Original Message- From: Knarf Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards Sorry for the vulgarity but that just shows how angry I am. I'm cussin' mad! I haven't commented on any

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-10 Thread Larry Colen
Knarf wrote: Sorry for the vulgarity but that just shows how angry I am. I'm cussin' mad! I haven't commented on any Flickr images for a while because they're all horribly fuzzy on my Android. When I'm on a computer they're fine, but unviewable on my 'droid. I think I whined about it on

Re: Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't know what the issue is, frank. On iOS, the website works fine in Safari, but their (free) app works even better. ??? It doesn't try to sell me anything, it just makes it nicer to view photos there. Godfrey On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I

Flickr Are Sneaky Bastards

2015-08-10 Thread Knarf
Sorry for the vulgarity but that just shows how angry I am. I'm cussin' mad! I haven't commented on any Flickr images for a while because they're all horribly fuzzy on my Android. When I'm on a computer they're fine, but unviewable on my 'droid. I think I whined about it on this list at least