Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-12 Thread P. J. Alling
John Sessoms wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that's a CF-104 being flown by Starfighters in that shot. And there's nothing unsafe about the Starfighter, it was a superb high-altitude interceptor and was quite safe in that role. As long as the engine's running. Engine out

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-12 Thread Walter Hamler
I have seen these Starfighters twice now this year. The amazing thing I heard about them is that they are brand new. Made in 2006. It seems that Canada is the only country still licensed to make the Starfighter. There is another team of Starfighter pilots, both retired Air Force Generals I

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-12 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:31:49 -0500, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have seen these Starfighters twice now this year. The amazing thing I heard about them is that they are brand new. Made in 2006. It seems that Canada is the only country still licensed to make the Starfighter.

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-12 Thread John Sessoms
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that's a CF-104 being flown by Starfighters in that shot. And there's nothing unsafe about the Starfighter, it was a superb high-altitude interceptor and was quite safe in that role. As long as the engine's running. Engine out performance leaves

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-11 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip No. 6 is my favourite. I always thought that the F104 was a beautiful piece of machinery. I've always loved Starfighters, too. I always thought they were just so cool and sleek looking - even if they had a propensity

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:24 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip No. 6 is my favourite. I always thought that the F104 was a beautiful piece of machinery. I've always loved Starfighters, too. I always

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-11 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that's a CF-104 being flown by Starfighters in that shot. And there's nothing unsafe about the Starfighter, it was a superb high-altitude interceptor and was quite safe in that role. The problem was the crazy idea that

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:10 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that's a CF-104 being flown by Starfighters in that shot. And there's nothing unsafe about the Starfighter, it was a superb high-altitude

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-11 Thread P. J. Alling
: Gallery of Air Show pics from today To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:10 PM http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/6499887_kvwWr#412843237_gLbQh I took the K20 to an air show featuring the Blue Angels among others nice war birds. Had a great day

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-11 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And don't forget the downward firing ejection seat ;-) Okay, that could be seen as a design flaw... :-0 cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And don't forget the downward firing ejection seat ;-) Okay, that could be seen as a design flaw... :-0 cheers, frank -- It wasn't a flaw at the

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-11 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/6499887_kvwWr#412843237_gLbQh I took the K20 to an air show featuring the Blue Angels among others nice war birds. Had a great day with really fine weather! These are my first nine

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-10 Thread John Sessoms
From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, they were both courts martialed last week. I don't know what the punishments were but you can almost guarantee that it will spell the end of the pilot's career. As to the enlisted female, it's hard to say. It may be the end of his NAVY career, but

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Brian Walters
Some great shots there. Nos 1 and 2 are scary. Even allowing for the perspective compression of a telephoto lens, that sort of close flying is madness! No. 6 is my favourite. I always thought that the F104 was a beautiful piece of machinery. Cheers Brian ++

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread David J Brooks
Some nice ones there Walt. I have the Sigma 300 F4. Its a good lens, if you can fiind one i recomend it. Dave On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/6499887_kvwWr#412843237_gLbQh I took the K20 to an air show featuring the

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Walter Hamler
We were told that the plane was at 745 knots, which at sea level is . the speed of sound. Had that area of compression slid off the rear of the aircraft there would have been a sonic boom. :-) As a kid at air shows they were occasionally heard but the restrictions are very strict now. One of

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Joseph McAllister
This is what Walt (and I) missed, from the 2007 San Francisco show: http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=155067 On Nov 9, 2008, at 11:28 , Walter Hamler wrote: We were told that the plane was at 745 knots, which at sea level is . the speed of sound. Had that area of

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Joseph McAllister
Another example of the phenomenon: http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=48300 On Nov 9, 2008, at 13:22 , Joseph McAllister wrote: This is what Walt (and I) missed, from the 2007 San Francisco show: http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=155067 On Nov 9,

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Walter Hamler
Thanks to all for your kind remarks. I have added a few more to the same gallery. I think the same link still works. Walt On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some great shots there. Nos 1 and 2 are scary. Even allowing for the perspective compression of a

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/11/08, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, they were both courts martialed last week. I don't know what the punishments were but you can almost guarantee that it will spell the end of the pilot's career. As to the enlisted female, it's hard to say. As a retired navy man and as a

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Walter Hamler
Dang, wish you had not posted that! Now I know fully what I missed. :-( Walt On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what Walt (and I) missed, from the 2007 San Francisco show: http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=155067 --

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Ken Waller
a full formation - I thought they would have flown the plane (#7) used for media flights. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today Yes, they were both courts martialed

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-09 Thread Walter Hamler
Yes, they were both courts martialed last week. I don't know what the punishments were but you can almost guarantee that it will spell the end of the pilot's career. As to the enlisted female, it's hard to say. As a retired navy man and as a past OIC in command of troops, I feel saddened that such

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread PN Stenquist
Excellent work! Enjoyed these much. On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/6499887_kvwWr#412843237_gLbQh I took the K20 to an air show featuring the Blue Angels among others nice war birds. Had a great day with really fine weather! These are my

PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread Walter Hamler
http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/6499887_kvwWr#412843237_gLbQh I took the K20 to an air show featuring the Blue Angels among others nice war birds. Had a great day with really fine weather! These are my first nine shots that I picked from 247 total. I used the Tamron 70~300 LD zoom mostly

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/6499887_kvwWr#412843237_gLbQh I took the K20 to an air show featuring the Blue Angels among others nice war birds. Had a great day with really fine weather! These are my first nine shots that I picked from 247 total. I used the Tamron

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread Jack Davis
Some really well done panning. Can be a tough photo workout. Jack --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread Rick Womer
Excellent, Walt. In #9, why is the back 1/3 of the plane blurred? Water vapor on a humid day? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today To: Pentax

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Nov 8, 2008, at 19:42 , Rick Womer wrote: Excellent, Walt. In #9, why is the back 1/3 of the plane blurred? Water vapor on a humid day? A plane's wings passing through the air by it's airfoil nature compresses that air, then allows it to decompress after it passes. This sudden

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread 272yb
Walt, very nice, Joe -- Original message -- From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/6499887_kvwWr#412843237_gLbQh I took the K20 to an air show featuring the Blue Angels among others nice war birds. Had a great day with

Re: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Walt: Your gallery is flyin high. I love #9--we can even see the pilots there. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread Joseph McAllister
Hang on to those excellent Blue Angels shots, Joe. There will only be two shows - ever - that I know of with plane #4 not flying. Pilot did a bad-bad with a female support personnel. Mother Navy grounded him for a time-out, or a courts martial! On Nov 8, 2008, at 17:10 , Walter Hamler

Re: PESO: Gallery of Air Show pics from today

2008-11-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Really nice shots Walt. You sure you need a better lens???Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/6499887_kvwWr#412843237_gLbQh I took the K20 to an air show featuring the Blue Angels among others nice