Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread P.J. Alling
I guess government mules have a strong union. On 8/15/2015 11:52 AM, John wrote: Don't know anything about cycle frames, but at Grand Canyon National Park in Arizona, they won't let you take the mule trip if you weigh over 200 lb. On 8/14/2015 11:31 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Bob W wrote: If i

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread Bob W-PDML
essage - From: "mike wilson" > Subject: Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight > > >>> On 15 August 2015 at 19:54, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> >>> Knarf wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread Ken Waller
And where would you put the 600, tripod and gimbal head? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" Subject: Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight On 15 August 2015 at 19:54, L

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread Knarf
I got the joke part, too. :-) Cheers, Frank On 15 August, 2015 3:32:37 PM EDT, Larry Colen wrote: > > >Knarf wrote: >> Ah, now I get it. >> >> Good point. > >And in case it wasn't obvious, the suggestion was a joke. Well, mostly >anyways. > > >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >> On 15 August, 2015

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread Ken Waller
So I guess a 225lb person will break his ass. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "John" Subject: Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight Don't know anything about cycle frames, but

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread Larry Colen
Knarf wrote: Ah, now I get it. Good point. And in case it wasn't obvious, the suggestion was a joke. Well, mostly anyways. Cheers, frank On 15 August, 2015 2:54:54 PM EDT, Larry Colen wrote: Knarf wrote: I don't follow you. Cheers, frank On 14 August, 2015 11:50:26 PM EDT, La

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread Knarf
Ah, now I get it. Good point. Cheers, frank On 15 August, 2015 2:54:54 PM EDT, Larry Colen wrote: > > >Knarf wrote: >> I don't follow you. >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >> >> On 14 August, 2015 11:50:26 PM EDT, Larry Colen >wrote: >>> Schwinn varsity. > >Schwinn varsities were so incredibly h

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread mike wilson
On 15 August 2015 at 19:54, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Knarf wrote: >> >> I don't follow you. >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >> >> On 14 August, 2015 11:50:26 PM EDT, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> Schwinn varsity. > > > Schwinn varsities were so incredibly heavy and overbuilt they would probably > carry

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread Larry Colen
Knarf wrote: I don't follow you. Cheers, frank On 14 August, 2015 11:50:26 PM EDT, Larry Colen wrote: Schwinn varsity. Schwinn varsities were so incredibly heavy and overbuilt they would probably carry a modern American family of four without complaint. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.c

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-15 Thread John
Don't know anything about cycle frames, but at Grand Canyon National Park in Arizona, they won't let you take the mule trip if you weigh over 200 lb. On 8/14/2015 11:31 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Bob W wrote: If it's anything like tyre pressures then it's probably good for 440lb [1]. As I under

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread David Mann
t; Sent: 14 August 2015 13:56 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight >> >> I think that 220lb is for optimum handling or something. Its not like > it'll snap in >> two if 221lb sits on it. It's like a "best befo

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread Knarf
I don't follow you. Cheers, frank On 14 August, 2015 11:50:26 PM EDT, Larry Colen wrote: >Schwinn varsity. > >On August 14, 2015 10:21:05 AM PDT, Bob W-PDML >wrote: >>On 14 Aug 2015, at 16:32, Malcolm Smith >>wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Some time ago I was asked how to find out what weight a c

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread Larry Colen
Schwinn varsity. On August 14, 2015 10:21:05 AM PDT, Bob W-PDML wrote: >On 14 Aug 2015, at 16:32, Malcolm Smith >wrote: >> >> >> >> Some time ago I was asked how to find out what weight a cycle would >take by >> two of my friends, who were overweight. They were both tall and >suspected >> the

RE: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bob W wrote: > That's very impressive. I've found that cycling 6-7 hours a day across > France has a similar effect and you still get to eat snacks :0) That's the benefit of cycling, which has allowed me to retain a small chocolate ration in life! > I'd have thought a decent mountain bike would

Re: OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 14 Aug 2015, at 16:32, Malcolm Smith wrote: > > > > Some time ago I was asked how to find out what weight a cycle would take by > two of my friends, who were overweight. They were both tall and suspected > they may have to lose weight first. As cycling is low impact exercise on > joints, I t

OT; Cycles and frame weight limits, was : Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bob W wrote: > If it's anything like tyre pressures then it's probably good for 440lb > [1]. > > As I understand things, to decide the maximum tyre pressure they > inflate them until they burst. They then declare the maximum pressure > to be half the bursting pressure. > > [1] Caveat: I am not

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread David J Brooks
stated > maximum is at your own risk. Don't sue me - I haven't any money. > > B > >> -Original Message- >> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Knarf >> Sent: 14 August 2015 13:56 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Su

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread Ken Waller
But what about the 20# lens ? -Original Message- >From: Knarf Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight > >I think that 220lb is for optimum handling or something. Its not like it'll >snap in two if 221lb sits on it. It's like a "best before" date: They're

RE: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread Bob W
ny attempt to exceed the stated maximum is at your own risk. Don't sue me - I haven't any money. B > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Knarf > Sent: 14 August 2015 13:56 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Ges

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-14 Thread Knarf
allery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - From: "Knarf" >> Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight >> >> >>> False dichotomy. >>> >>> For $6000 you've got the 560mm: >>> >>> http://m.henrys.

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-13 Thread John
I'm not exactly sure how whether or not a fish needs a bicycle relates to the cost of an imaginary 600mm f/2.8 lens? On 8/13/2015 12:30 AM, Knarf wrote: False dichotomy. For $6000 you've got the 560mm: http://m.henrys.com/74968-PENTAX-DA-560MM-F5-6-ED-AW-LENS.aspx For $14,000 you've got the M

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Yeah, but the bikes weight limit is only 220 lbs ! That could be a problem Dave > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Knarf" > Su

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-13 Thread Ken Waller
Yeah, but the bikes weight limit is only 220 lbs ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Knarf" Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight False dichotomy. For $6000 you've got the 560mm: http://m.henrys.com/74968-PENTA

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Knarf
False dichotomy. For $6000 you've got the 560mm: http://m.henrys.com/74968-PENTAX-DA-560MM-F5-6-ED-AW-LENS.aspx For $14,000 you've got the Marinoni Genius with Campy Super Record EPS and Bora wheelset. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/html/Genius.html That's like 1/2 the price of one truck. Think o

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 12/8/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Just in case there was something I was missing, I searched. The fastest >>600 prime I found was F/4. > > I told him this was gonna be expensive Truck, lens, truck lens Oy > > -- > > > Cheers

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/8/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >Just in case there was something I was missing, I searched. The fastest >600 prime I found was F/4. I told him this was gonna be expensive -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- ___

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread John
ry.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight On 12/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes i am.:-) At 2.8 or even 3.2 i'll have to play around with a pre focus point, as they come in from a bit of an an

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Ken Waller
thing like that. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight On 12/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes i am.:-) At 2.8 or even 3.2 i'll have to play around w

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 12/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Yes i am.:-) >>At 2.8 or even 3.2 i'll have to play around with a pre focus point, as >>they come in from a bit of an angle to my right, thus the higher ap >>values like 5.6 and 6.

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >Yes i am.:-) >At 2.8 or even 3.2 i'll have to play around with a pre focus point, as >they come in from a bit of an angle to my right, thus the higher ap >values like 5.6 and 6.3 to give my more in focus area but a poor back >drop. Practice,

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread John
On 8/12/2015 8:27 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: A 600mm should solve the lens issue ! Yup f/2.8 should do it. At a pinch an f/4. You getting this Dave Yes i am.:-) At 2.8 or even 3.2

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>A 600mm should solve the lens issue ! Yup > > f/2.8 should do it. At a pinch an f/4. You getting this Dave Yes i am.:-) At 2.8 or even 3.2 i'll have to play around with a pre focus

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >A 600mm should solve the lens issue ! f/2.8 should do it. At a pinch an f/4. You getting this Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ --

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >And WD = ? War Department. The Mrs !! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Ken Waller
I think i'll need to rethink my location, lens picks a little more seriously now. A 600mm should solve the lens issue ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight On

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Ken Waller
The WD doesn't like being that high apparently ;-) And WD = ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: Maybe

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 11/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I think i'll need to rethink my location, lens picks a little more >>seriously now. > > The challenge is on Seems a lot are shot at 105mm, my fa 100 f 2.8 may just do the trick th

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think i'll need to rethink my location, lens picks a little more >seriously now. The challenge is on -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
Mark, these are in my back yard, but actually yes i could pull my car up close.:-) I think i'll need to rethink my location, lens picks a little more seriously now. Dave On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Mark C wrote: > Nice action shots though I agree about the fence - maybe setup a blind to >

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Mark C
Nice action shots though I agree about the fence - maybe setup a blind to get closer and better blur the background. Can you pull a car up closer to the jays? Cars make great blinds, just sit in the comfy seat with the window down and wait... On 8/10/2015 12:05 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I mad

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/8/15, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: >Maybe drape something over the fence ? The WD doesn't like being that high apparently ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pent

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >I sit in a shady spot.:-) Shade is good, yer excused -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.ne

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
t; > J > > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Cottrell" > To: "pentax list" > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:56:05 AM > Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight > > On 10/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I made

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Ken Waller
I agree with Cotty. You've got some nice crisp action shots but the background ruins them. Maybe drape something over the fence ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: Geso, jays in fligh

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Jack Davis
What Cotty said!! J - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" To: "pentax list" Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:56:05 AM Subject: Re: Geso, jays in flight On 10/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >I made a small, yes Cotty a small galle

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/8/15, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: >I made a small, yes Cotty a small gallery of my recent jays in flight shots. > >http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2015-jays1/album/index.html > >I know a few should be cropped but these are for your viewing pleasure >as is.:-) You call that sma

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Darren Dave On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > David, That is an impressive set with several images reaching the > level of simply stunning! All of them technically excellent. > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> I made a small, yes Cotty a s

Re: Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-10 Thread Darren Addy
David, That is an impressive set with several images reaching the level of simply stunning! All of them technically excellent. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > I made a small, yes Cotty a small gallery of my recent jays in flight shots. > > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2

Geso, jays in flight

2015-08-10 Thread David J Brooks
I made a small, yes Cotty a small gallery of my recent jays in flight shots. http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2015-jays1/album/index.html I know a few should be cropped but these are for your viewing pleasure as is.:-) Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brook