John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
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RE: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Bob W
@pdml.net > Subject: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog) > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2014593,00.asp > > -- > Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 412-687-2835 > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Dis

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Adam Maas
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Mark Roberts >> Sent: 01 October 2006 17:44 >> To: pdml@pdml.net >> Subject: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog) >> >> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2014593,00.asp >> >> -- >>

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Carlos Royo
Bob W wrote: > Who's John Dvorak that anyone should take any notice of him? That > article is so shallow it's laughable. > > -- John Dvorak is one of those self-proclaimed pundits. His articles have been shallow for decades. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.ne

RE: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Agreed - 100% Dvorak is a columnist for one of the major US computer mags. He should stick to writing about computers and the computer industry Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W < > Who's John Dvorak that anyone should take any notice of him? That > article is so shallow it's laughable

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Adam Maas
Shel, He doesn't know anything about the computer industry either. His entire modus operandi is to make bombastic claims about stuff. When he gets close to getting canned, he'll do that about Apple to drive up the responses to his column. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Agreed - 100% > > Dvor

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
> Bob > > > >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Mark Roberts >>Sent: 01 October 2006 17:44 >>To: pdml@pdml.net >>Subject: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog) >> >>http:/

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
any notice of him? That >>article is so shallow it's laughable. >> >>-- >>Cheers, >> Bob >> >> >> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>Behalf Of Mark Roberts >

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
In truth, I've not picked up a computer magazine in a couple of years. I'm not really too interested in reading page after page of hype. I feel somewhat similar about most current photo mags as well. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Adam Maas > He doesn't know anything about the computer i

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Christian
Bob W wrote: > Who's John Dvorak that anyone should take any notice of him? That > article is so shallow it's laughable. Am I missing something? Shallow? In what way? He wrote what I've been saying for a long time. Every photograph is a manipulation of the "truth." How is that shallow? --

RE: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread David J Brooks
e of him? That > article is so shallow it's laughable. > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Mark Roberts >> Sent: 01 October 2006 17:44 >> To: pdml@pdml.net >

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Christian wrote: >Bob W wrote: >> Who's John Dvorak that anyone should take any notice of him? That >> article is so shallow it's laughable. > >Am I missing something? Shallow? In what way? He wrote what I've been >saying for a long time. Every photograph is a manipulation of the >"truth."

RE: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Bob W
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Christian > Sent: 01 October 2006 19:24 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog) > > Bob W wrote: > > Who's John Dvorak t

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Christian
Bob W wrote: >> >>Am I missing something? Shallow? In what way? He wrote >>what I've been >>saying for a long time. Every photograph is a manipulation of the >>"truth." How is that shallow? >> > > > Then I guess you are missing something. I'm not going to waste my time > explaining it - I

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I guess it's just that Dvorak is stating the obvious. A photograph isn't reality. It's just a photograph, subject to the whims of the person who takes it and the person who processes it. We already knew that. Paul On Oct 1, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Christian wrote: > Bob W wrote: >>> >>> Am I miss

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote: > I guess it's just that Dvorak is stating the obvious. A photograph > isn't reality. It's just a photograph, subject to the whims of the > person who takes it and the person who processes it. We already knew > that. Well, duh. But how is that "shallow"? And why is

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't think Bob was angry. He was just rude. We all agree with Dvorak. But it isn't worth repeating. If a columnist can't think of something more interesting and unique than this old saw, he shouldn't write at all. On Oct 1, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Christian wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> I g

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >I don't think Bob was angry. He was just rude. We all agree with >Dvorak. But it isn't worth repeating. If a columnist can't think of >something more interesting and unique than this old saw, he shouldn't >write at all. He has to come up with *something* every week :)

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Christian
Paul Stenquist wrote: > I don't think Bob was angry. He was just rude. We all agree with > Dvorak. But it isn't worth repeating. If a columnist can't think of > something more interesting and unique than this old saw, he shouldn't > write at all. Gotcha. It was lack of originality. Thanks.

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Christian
Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > >>I don't think Bob was angry. He was just rude. We all agree with >>Dvorak. But it isn't worth repeating. If a columnist can't think of >>something more interesting and unique than this old saw, he shouldn't >>write at all. > > > He has to

RE: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Bob W
> > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I guess it's just that Dvorak is stating the obvious. A photograph > > isn't reality. It's just a photograph, subject to the whims of the > > person who takes it and the person who processes it. We > already knew > > that. > > > Well, duh. But how is that "sh

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> I don't think Bob was angry. He was just rude. We all agree with >> Dvorak. But it isn't worth repeating. If a columnist can't think of >> something more interesting and unique than this old saw, he shouldn't >> write at all. > > He has to co

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-01 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 07:12:31PM -0400, Christian wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I guess it's just that Dvorak is stating the obvious. A photograph > > isn't reality. It's just a photograph, subject to the whims of the > > person who takes it and the person who processes it. We already k

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-02 Thread Kenneth Waller
: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog) > On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 07:12:31PM -0400, Christian wrote: >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >> > I guess it's just that Dvorak is stating the obvious. A photograph >> > isn&#

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread keith_w
Christian wrote: > Bob W wrote: >> Who's John Dvorak that anyone should take any notice of him? That >> article is so shallow it's laughable. > > Am I missing something? Shallow? In what way? He wrote what I've been > saying for a long time. Every photograph is a manipulation of the > "truth

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/3/06, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, in that case, you're BOTH wrong. > His ongoing tirade about how photographs are simply not any truth at ALL, is > wearing, and of itself, untrue. > > People who think of photos taken of Uncle Joe and Aunt Mattie, and passed > around for fami

RE: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread Bob W
> Well stated Keith! > > Especially the part about Bob W. and Christian being ~both~ > wrong. > Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. Right? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdm

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread Christian
Bob W wrote: > > Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both > wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. > Right? > > Bob > Wrong. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pd

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/3/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both > wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. > Right? I have a French surname. The French are never wrong. As for the others, I really don't care.

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:01:08PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: > On 10/3/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both > > wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. > > Right? > > I have a French

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread mike wilson
John Francis wrote: > On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:01:08PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: > >>On 10/3/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both >>>wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. >>>Right

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On 10/3/06, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does this mean knarf is a loof? If you want me to be. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:56:48 +0100, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:01:08PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: >> On 10/3/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> > Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both >> > wrong, so obviously

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
If knarf is a loof, would frank be a fool? Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Francis > Does this mean knarf is a loof? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Oct 3, 2006, at 5:20 PM, mike wilson wrote: > John Francis wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:01:08PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: >> >>> On 10/3/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both wrong, so o

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-04 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/10/03 Tue PM 11:20:29 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog) > > > On Oct 3, 2006, at 5:20 PM, mike wilson wrote: > > > John Francis wrote: >

Re: John Dvorak (via Mike J's blog)

2006-10-04 Thread keith_w
Bob W wrote: >> Well stated Keith! >> >> Especially the part about Bob W. and Christian being ~both~ >> wrong. >> > > Keith's wrong about us both being wrong. Keith and Christian are both > wrong, so obviously you're wrong about Keith being right - he's wrong. > Right? > > Bob Uhhh, yes. kei