>> of the first captures with my K-3. Probably because the roof is so
>> prominent in my image. Not sure if it bothers me or not.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
>
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
>> Subject: Re: K-3 & moire
>>
>>
>>> I'm glad you posted that. I couldn't see any moire in the two
>>> images from the Pen
if it bothers me or not.
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: K-3 & moire
I'm glad you posted that. I couldn't see any moire in the two
images from the Pentax Forums, and I thought it migh
mage.
Not sure if it bothers me or not.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: K-3 & moire
I'm glad you posted that. I couldn't see any moire in the two images from
the Pentax Forum
Sure, I only wanted to ascertain that I am being understood correctly.
It often happens to me that I am not.
I should admit that I did not see the moire on the PF examples either.
I've seen some artifacts, but I wasn't sure as to what to attribute them.
I have some more moire examples from Ri
Right.
The point is I can *see* the moire in the example you posted. I couldn't
see it in the two Pentax Forum images, but with your image, I know that
isn't something wrong with my eyes.
On 4/21/2014 1:09 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
John, please let me stress that this moire happened on Ricoh G
John, please let me stress that this moire happened on Ricoh GXR-M which
has a 12MP sensor similar to that of Nikon D300 or Pentax K-x/K-r...
On 4/21/2014 6:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
I'm glad you posted that. I couldn't see any moire in the two images
from the Pentax Forums, and I thought it m
Bulent, I use only Lightroom for all my processing, so I couldn't tell.
And as I indicated, this happens so rarely that I look at it as more of
an unusual unexpected surprise as in - look, moire!
I have RawTherapee Portable and I could pass this image through it...
But beside that - I don't ha
I'm glad you posted that. I couldn't see any moire in the two images
from the Pentax Forums, and I thought it might be my eyes failing me,
but the moire is quite clear in the example you post.
On 4/20/2014 2:22 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Zos, this is the blog post I wrote back when I caught moi
me three
a
On 4/20/2014 14:12, Paul Sorenson wrote:
Me too
-p
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Well that link sucks pond scum! Text but photos are hidden and very
slow. I won't wait.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
http://www.pent
Boris,
Do you know if this moire (in that particular image) can be remedied
by using a different raw conversion process?
(I presume it has something to do with the handling of data coming
from a sensor with Bayer array).
And if yes, do we lose some resolution as a trade off?
Bulent
-
Zos, this is the blog post I wrote back when I caught moire one of the
very first times:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/03/catching-moire.html
On 4/20/2014 6:17 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/241457-blind-test-k-3-vs-k-5-iis.html
This one cau
Me too
-p
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 20, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
> Well that link sucks pond scum! Text but photos are hidden and very
> slow. I won't wait.
>
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/241457
Gack. That's not moire, I bet that's from seriously bad colour
fringing and/or CA. I've never seen crud like that except through a
poor lens. Take a look at the buoy, way left foreground. Huge red
smear along its left side.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
> http://www.pentaxf
Well that link sucks pond scum! Text but photos are hidden and very
slow. I won't wait.
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/241457-blind-test-k-3-vs-k-5-iis.html
>
> This one caught my interest. The first file is the k-3 and th
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/172-pentax-k-3/241457-blind-test-k-3-vs-k-5-iis.html
This one caught my interest. The first file is the k-3 and the 2nd is
the K-5 IIs. The K-3 is showing more color moire, but it could also be
due to the differences in focusing because the two shots are clearly
Zos, could you show some examples of moire that you've seen. I would be
very curious to look at them too.
On 4/19/2014 10:07 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
From the pixel peeping I did, the K-3 seems to pick up more moire
because it is resolving more. On the flip side, it is resolving
significantly mor
>From the pixel peeping I did, the K-3 seems to pick up more moire
because it is resolving more. On the flip side, it is resolving
significantly more than the K-5 IIs. Also the moire is less pronounced
because it is smaller. What I did see was relatively minor and would
have to printed very large t
Bong, I've AA-filterless Ricoh GXR-M with which I've shot more than
7,000 images. So far I've had moire on exactly 6 of them, all of which I
can present for you to inspect.
It is therefore my conclusion that moire is more a non-issue than
otherwise. Of course K-3 has twice as many pixels as my
SoI downloaded the k-5 IIs shot of the studio scene from dpreview.
Opened the raw in lightroom and tried the moire tool. Total non issue.
I think I'm getting a K-5 IIs. Thanks everyone.
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:32 PM, John Sessoms wrote
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:32 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>
> Moire doesn't really disturb me as much as that thing digital does with the
> sky.
Quite so; a viewable real world concern. (Which can be dealt with by
shooting raw and sticking with a 16-bit workflow end to end. But
that's--hopefully--anot
On 18/04/2014 2:15 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
I don't hear
anyone complaining about the M9.
Who would dare?
bill
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> On Apr 18, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>
> But the pixels are there for peeping! :)
>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> I'm using a K-3 for portraits and it works great. I have n
On 4/18/2014 4:15 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
I'm actually considering a K-5 IIs right now and that's a real
concern. The sharpness differences and fine detail differences between
the k-5 II and IIs are undeniable though. I looked through a whole lot
of real world, outdoors pictures and couldn't find m
But the pixels are there for peeping! :)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> I'm using a K-3 for portraits and it works great. I have never enabled
> the anti-moire feature. More of my subjects have fabric on than not.
> :-)
>
> Actually, you can A-B it in one particular shoot:
I'm using a K-3 for portraits and it works great. I have never enabled
the anti-moire feature. More of my subjects have fabric on than not.
:-)
Actually, you can A-B it in one particular shoot: subject is wearing
fine fishnet in some shots but bare skin in the exact same pose and
light in others (
I'm actually considering a K-5 IIs right now and that's a real
concern. The sharpness differences and fine detail differences between
the k-5 II and IIs are undeniable though. I looked through a whole lot
of real world, outdoors pictures and couldn't find much moire. I mean
its there if you really
On 18 Apr 2014, at 19:06, "Paul Sorenson" wrote:
>
> Shoot someone in houndstooth jacket or checkered shirt.
And if they're in houndstooth jacket AND checkered shirt, shoot them, dismember
them, scatter their body parts to the four winds, and burn their entire
wardrobe.
Yves Saint-Bob
> Mo
Shoot someone in houndstooth jacket or checkered shirt. Moire usually
shows up pretty well with those >fabrics
Moire or less...
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Sorenson"
Subject: Re: K-3 & moire
Shoot someone in houndstooth jacket or checkered shirt. Moire usually shows up
pretty well with those fabrics
-p
Sent from my iPhone 'cause I'm not near my computer.
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Dario Bonazza
> wrote:
>> RAW imag
: Re: K-3 & moire
I mean that moire that is visible in a given camera JPEG can go away "by
itself" while converting the RAW file (of its RAW+JPEG pair) into JPEG with
Photoshop CS6. Perhaps it's some kind of magic (an auto correction function
of CS6?). Never investigated into this
... Damn, Iooks like I've selected the wrong AA
filter simulator!
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: Bruce Walker
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 5:10 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: K-3 & moire
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Dario Bonazza
wrote:
RAW images
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Dario Bonazza
wrote:
> RAW images have a good edge on JPEGs for correcting moire.
Dario, do you mean that I am less likely to see moire in the RAW image
of a RAW+JPEG pair? Or do you mean it's easier to manually
post-correct moire that you see in a RAW?
I have ye
ion. RAW images have a good edge on JPEGs for correcting moire.
Dario
-Messaggio originale-
From: Bong Manayon
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 6:13 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: K-3 & moire
The local Pentax dealer lent me a K-3 with the challenge to trip it up to
produce moire; been beh
The local Pentax dealer lent me a K-3 with the challenge to trip it up to
produce moire; been behind on the AA/moire issue since I have not rush to
getting a K-3 for myself soon (and I skipped the 5IIs). Any random thoughts on
this?
Bong
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