Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-04 Thread CheekyGeek
I think you'll find Mac zealots are a lot better looking than PC zealots, but they don't do as much work. I have a copy of iLoathe but it's nowhere near as good as Microsoft Hatred. There's one for next year's book. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- The camera is an instrument that teaches

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-04 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:26 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-05-02 06:07 , Adam Maas wrote: My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4). all this talk of boot times -- i do that a couple

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-04 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-05-02 09:56 , Adam Maas wrote: an easy way to launch seldom-used apps along with access to configuration and the file browser. that sounds like QuickSilver on the Mac (there are similar tools for Win Linux)

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-04 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-04 16:10 , Adam Maas wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-05-02 09:56 , Adam Maas wrote: an easy way to launch seldom-used apps along with access to configuration and the file browser. that sounds like QuickSilver on the Mac

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread eckinator
Are there any more such deals where it came from? Cheers Ecke 2010/5/3 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: On 02/05/2010, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Vista. I looks like it is ready after about 45 seconds, but trying to start an application will only get you a program not

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 03/05/2010, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any more such deals where it came from? I bought a couple, I would have bought more but of couse by the time I had enquired after receipt of the fist couple the rest were gone (he had more than 10 sets), I've since bought three more

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread Bob W
I can see now why so many people have issues, following is a vid of one of my systems starting up, I leave it in standby (as there is a 1w differential between off and standby). I just hit the on button and it's basically ready to go. I bought this one a year back (ex Gov), it cost me a

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 03/05/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I'm surprised the government let them go. Everyone's very touchy about data loss these days - where I work they take out the hard disk and have it destroyed before they let the box go. They all have spanking new XP installs, I think destroying

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread Bob W
I'm surprised the government let them go. Everyone's very touchy about data loss these days - where I work they take out the hard disk and have it destroyed before they let the box go. They all have spanking new XP installs, I think destroying drives is a bit over the top, there are

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread eckinator
2010/5/3 Bob W p...@web-options.com: The Russian mafia has specially-trained dogs left over from the KGB days who can smell the traces of the 'erased' bit patterns going back over 50 years, then bark the binary to a team of data prep clerks punching furiously into computers developed from the

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread Tom C
Bob W, wrote: The Russian mafia has specially-trained dogs left over from the KGB days who can smell the traces of the 'erased' bit patterns going back over 50 years, then bark the binary to a team of data prep clerks punching furiously into computers developed from the debris of Gary Powers'

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-02 01:40 , Joseph McAllister wrote: I don't know if you can use other than iTunes to play songs on your iPod. yes, you can do that too, though it's harder than copying songs off an iPod because it entails updating a database on the Pod; there are supposedly tools which will also

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-02 06:07 , Adam Maas wrote: And vice-versa. I'm pretty much stuck with Windows on my main system due to Multisim. Windows runs very nicely within a virtual machine ... My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-02 09:47 , Adam Maas wrote: Note my biggest beef with the Dock is no launcher/switcher separation. there is a separate switcher in Mac OS -- press cmd-tab I want to know what windows/apps I have open at a glance there is a tool called Exposé which gives at a glance view of

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-02 07:58 , John Sessoms wrote: If they've hidden it, it's NOT simple. right, it's the experience of the non-hidden features which is simple; this is how it works to simplify the use of complex devices; plenty of other examples come to mind -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-02 07:55 , John Sessoms wrote: Just a note here regarding line wrap. I understand the idea of not setting a default line length and letting the line wrap to whatever size the viewers window is. Problem is, when someone quotes that text, the quoted text DOES NOT WRAP in subsequent

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-02 09:56 , Adam Maas wrote: an easy way to launch seldom-used apps along with access to configuration and the file browser. that sounds like QuickSilver on the Mac (there are similar tools for Win Linux) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 1, 2010, at 5:41, John Francis wrote: The one thing I really, really dislike about the Mac is the obnoxious attitude of Mac zealots who insist that their way of doing things is *obviously* the one true way. As a Mac user myself, I agree with you 100%. I don't much care for OS

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-03 Thread Bob W
The one thing I really, really dislike about the Mac is the obnoxious attitude of Mac zealots who insist that their way of doing things is *obviously* the one true way. As a Mac user myself, I agree with you 100%. I don't much care for OS zealots of any stripe. I think

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 1, 2010, at 17:46 , steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-01 17:31 , Rob Studdert wrote: That's not what I said. I simply said if the need arose (which it has) then you are forced into using iTunes, no other portable audio players require this. each portable audio player has its

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread John Coyle
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley Sent: Sunday, 2 May 2010 11:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 replacement? On 2010-05-01 03:35 , John Coyle wrote: I started with computers in 1982, when the hot

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 1, 2010, at 20:33 , John Francis wrote: Basically, a system of a mere 300 Mac Pros has never been anywhere pushing the top of the performance charts in the real world; any such claims must have come with so many restrictions and qualifiers as to be meaningless. In 2004 IBM retook the

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Adam Maas
And vice-versa. I'm pretty much stuck with Windows on my main system due to Multisim. My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4). -Adam On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread eckinator
2010/5/2 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4). Sounds like XP, or worse Vista? On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Mac [...] boots up and

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread drd1135
Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K-7 replacement? 2010/5/2 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4). Sounds like XP, or worse Vista? On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Jeffery Smith
Vista. I looks like it is ready after about 45 seconds, but trying to start an application will only get you a program not responding or some similar sort of error message along the top of the screen. On May 2, 2010, at 7:19 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/5/2 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: My HP

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: K-7 replacement? And vice-versa. I'm pretty much stuck with Windows on my main system due to Multisim. My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:19 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/2 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4). Sounds like XP, or worse Vista? Vista, which is a

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/5/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4). MacBook Pro 2.4 Ghz 2 GB RAM 10.5.8 38 seconds from dead to login screen, then 3 seconds to full on. From sleep,

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Adam Maas On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:44 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've had a dozen macs. No failures other than hard drives. My daughter's i-book failed when she tripped over the ethernet cord and broke the port off the motherboard. I thought that was crappy

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: steve harley On 2010-05-01 17:31 , Rob Studdert wrote: That's not what I said. I simply said if the need arose (which it has) then you are forced into using iTunes, no other portable audio players require this. each portable audio player has its strengths weaknesses -- you have a

RE: Mac vs PC (was Re: K-7 replacement?)

2010-05-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Jeffery Smith Mac has some software available for it that Windows cannot touch. That is one of the reasons for my moving to Mac. And it boots up and connects to drives, the web, etc. in about 45 seconds. My fast Dell takes about 15 minutes to get past all of the not responding issues

Re: Mac vs PC (was Re: K-7 replacement?)

2010-05-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Sure. Easily enough done ... BTW, I'd see about getting that Dell fixed. If you're getting 15 minutes of not responding issues at boot up, you've got a broken machine. That sounds like a classic example of 'Norton

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Adam Maas On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:19 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/2 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4). Sounds like XP, or worse Vista?

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:39 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Adam Maas Vista, which is a significant upgrade over XP despite the popular opinion to the contrary. Note I'm counting from power-on to 'all background services started'. I can get a working UI much quicker than

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Graydon
On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 10:53:45AM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: [snip] little caret), but it still fails due to the poor assumption that your launcher and task switcher should be the same thing, a UI paradigm which sucked on NeXTStep and still sucks today. And it forces you to stack running

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread P N Stenquist
On May 2, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:39 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Adam Maas Vista, which is a significant upgrade over XP despite the popular opinion to the contrary. Note I'm counting from power-on to 'all background services

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote: On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 10:53:45AM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: [snip] little caret), but it still fails due to the poor assumption that your launcher and task switcher should be the same thing, a UI paradigm which sucked on

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:40 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On May 2, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Adam Maas wrote: The sad part is there's really only two parts of the OS X UI that I dislike. The Dock and Finder. I didn't like them at first, since I was accustomed to OS9, but after

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Larry Colen
On May 1, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: By the way, just so you know what an idiot I am, this fanaticism about computers beginning in 1973 with Atari, Sinclair, Epson, then Apple and Mac, with parallel interests in Porsches, a powerful audio video wall in the family room,

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 02/05/2010, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Vista. I looks like it is ready after about 45 seconds, but trying to start an application will only get you a program not responding or some similar sort of error message along the top of the screen. I can see now why so many people

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-30 18:23 , Rob Studdert wrote: On 01/05/2010, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: [snip] BTW your mailer seems to continuously break/confuse threads, your reply to me appeared in a thread of the same name that was running concurrently (as it was originally split due to

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-30 17:29 , Rob Studdert wrote: On 01/05/2010, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote: Most likely because you or your son captured much of the artwork using a third party utility, or browsing Google and various bands websites. When you re-synched, iTunes, which only uses Apples

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 01/05/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: it's a really bad example, since that feature is an option; it may be too helpful in the default, but the default is for people who buy tracks from Apple and rip their own CDs without tweaking the track names; not everything about iTunes

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 30/4/10, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: The one thing I really, really dislike about the Mac is the obnoxious attitude of Mac zealots who insist that their way of doing things is *obviously* the one true way. But it *is*. Amen. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
The one thing I really, really dislike about the Mac is the obnoxious attitude of Mac zealots who insist that their way of doing things is *obviously* the one true way. But it *is*. Amen. Anyone who thinks otherwise must explain themselves to the iNquisition. As you might expect.

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread John Coyle
Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 8:29 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 replacement? On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:49 -0500, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Apple is very good at making it easy

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
I was filming a report on UK soldiers returning home to barracks from Afghanistan the other day. We had to shoot and edit and then send from a network news satellite truck. The reporter asked me if I had my [Mac] edit kit along, and I always do. She asked if I wouldn't mind editing the piece as

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/5/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyone who thinks otherwise must explain themselves to the iNquisition. As you might expect. You've not had the iCushion treatment? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread eckinator
2010/5/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com: Anyone who thinks otherwise must explain themselves to the iNquisition. As conducted by Paul iNquist? Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
[...] I think it just has to be accepted that unless Microsoft and Windows will dominate the commercial and home use markets for many years to come because it's now much too hard for companies and people to make the change: the costs in re-training and replacing hardware and legacy

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 01/05/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: It's less to do with how good the computers are and more to do with how competent the user is at maintaining a healthy system and knowing how to achieve the required result. Thank dog someone has finally said it! -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
It's less to do with how good the computers are and more to do with how competent the user is at maintaining a healthy system and knowing how to achieve the required result. Thank dog someone has finally said it! That's just a variant of blame the user for the programmers'

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist
Subject: Re: K-7 replacement? On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:49 -0500, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Apple is very good at making it easy to do the things that they think you should do. It can be very challenging however

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist
On May 1, 2010, at 5:43 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/5/1 Bob W p...@web-options.com: Anyone who thinks otherwise must explain themselves to the iNquisition. As conducted by Paul iNquist? I am frequently asked to provide that service. I have a room in the basement set up specifically for

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: I was filming a report on UK soldiers returning home to barracks from Afghanistan the other day. We had to shoot and edit and then send from a network news satellite truck. The reporter asked me if I had my [Mac] edit kit along, and

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Cotty
On 01/05/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: It's less to do with how good the computers are and more to do with how competent the user is at maintaining a healthy system and knowing how to achieve the required result. On 1/5/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: Thank dog someone

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
Thank dog someone has finally said it! As long as I've got Steve Jobs' skidmarks all over my nose, I'm happy. Eeuughhh -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/1/2010 11:24 AM, Bob W wrote: Thank dog someone has finally said it! As long as I've got Steve Jobs' skidmarks all over my nose, I'm happy. Eeuughhh MARK! -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}}

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 30, 2010, at 18:52 , paul stenquist wrote: Mac's simply don't 'Just Work' in large network environments. In reality they require far more support time and cost in large deployments than PC's because Apple has nothing comparable to Active Directory and Exchange. No corporate IT

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Bob W
I've worked in ad agencies that had huge networks of Macs -- more than `1000 at BBDO Detroit. Problems were few and far between, non- existent for most users. But you have to have Mac IT people. You can't leave it to PC guys. Paul Thanks Paul. Those PC folk have no idea what

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 30, 2010, at 19:20 , Adam Maas wrote: My experience is otherwise. Mac's are good machines, but not best-in-class for reliability, middle of the pack is more like it. Apple's reliability rep died with the PowerMac 4400. They only have a reliability advantage over cheap white box or really

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 1, 2010, at 01:56 , Rob Studdert wrote: On 01/05/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: it's a really bad example, since that feature is an option; it may be too helpful in the default, but the default is for people who buy tracks from Apple and rip their own CDs without

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Joseph McAllister
On May 1, 2010, at 08:24 , Bob W wrote: Thank dog someone has finally said it! As long as I've got Steve Jobs' skidmarks all over my nose, I'm happy. Eeuughhh Don't be such a wimp. Try it. It's sweet.. :-) -- It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: I disagree with you on the reliability question. I've never, ever, had a Mac (after they got away from the original design, which suffered from heat) that failed electronically or physically, other than hard drives,

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 02/05/2010, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Who ever said iTunes was for use in radio stations? There's a big ol'stretch trying to find fault with Apple. That's not what I said. I simply said if the need arose (which it has) then you are forced into using iTunes, no other

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Francis On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 07:19:16PM -0400, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:01 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Hell, I just figured out in the last month you don't have to CTRL+ALT+DEL to get Task Manager any more, you just right click on the

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist
On May 1, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 02/05/2010, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Who ever said iTunes was for use in radio stations? There's a big ol'stretch trying to find fault with Apple. That's not what I said. I simply said if the need arose (which it has)

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 02/05/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've had a dozen macs. No failures other than hard drives. My daughter's i-book failed when she tripped over the ethernet cord and broke the port off the motherboard. I thought that was crappy design, but nothing else has ever

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have used both Apple and PC computers for many years. Yes, there are problems with Apple software. Those problems are NOTHING compared to the problems with MS software. Only one word in necessary: Vista. XP itself was an incredibly unstable platform; I had to install 4 upgrades, or

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:44 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've had a dozen macs. No failures other than hard drives. My daughter's i-book failed when she tripped over the ethernet cord and broke the port off the motherboard. I thought that was crappy design, but nothing

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-30 20:07 , Adam Maas wrote: 1000 stations is small compared to the Windows network I'm on, which is well over 20,000 machines across North America on the same Active Directory Domain. big corpses are a minority of jobs and a tiny minority of the number of business (for example, the

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-01 17:31 , Rob Studdert wrote: That's not what I said. I simply said if the need arose (which it has) then you are forced into using iTunes, no other portable audio players require this. each portable audio player has its strengths weaknesses -- you have a choice; but if you want

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-01 17:56 , Rob Studdert wrote: On 02/05/2010, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Surprised you had to go back to the failure issue from the i Tunes discussion. Too much Apple anger out there, guys. It's not healthy:-). That sticks in my craw, had to sell the new

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:40 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-04-30 20:07 , Adam Maas wrote: 1000 stations is small compared to the Windows network I'm on, which is well over 20,000 machines across North America on the same Active Directory Domain. big corpses are a

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist
On May 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 02/05/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've had a dozen macs. No failures other than hard drives. My daughter's i-book failed when she tripped over the ethernet cord and broke the port off the motherboard. I thought

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-30 15:40 , Bob W wrote: In all the years of owning PCs running DOS/Windows I've never, repeat never, had to log a support call with anyone. That's not to say I haven't had to fix stuff myself sometimes, but not 25 cases in 2 years. different people use their support options

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist
On May 1, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:44 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've had a dozen macs. No failures other than hard drives. My daughter's i-book failed when she tripped over the ethernet cord and broke the port off the

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-01 03:35 , John Coyle wrote: I started with computers in 1982, when the hot PC's were Commodore 64's and Amiga's, with the TRS-80 the hobbyist machine. Amiga was hot (i had one), but it came out in 1985 I think it just has to be accepted that unless Microsoft and Windows will

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
Mac has some software available for it that Windows cannot touch. That is one of the reasons for my moving to Mac. And it boots up and connects to drives, the web, etc. in about 45 seconds. My fast Dell takes about 15 minutes to get past all of the not responding issues before it will actually

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-30 17:10 , John Sessoms wrote: From: steve harley i haven't checked my numbers, but i'm of the impression most of the business world runs on the web these days; and most of the web runs on Linux [...] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-L-0s-7-Z0 har har google, youtube, flickr,

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-01 19:04 , paul stenquist wrote: I have a LaCie DVD burner that doesnt't seem to work any more. Haven't fooled with it enough to be sure it's dead, since I don't really need it any more. But I guess I should look into it. DVD mechanisms are basically expendable; you pop open the

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread paul stenquist
On May 1, 2010, at 10:55 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-01 19:04 , paul stenquist wrote: I have a LaCie DVD burner that doesnt't seem to work any more. Haven't fooled with it enough to be sure it's dead, since I don't really need it any more. But I guess I should look into it. DVD

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-01 20:03 , Jeffery Smith wrote: P.S. - can we change the subject line to Mac versus Windows? That poor K-7 has been out of the mix for several days, and it deserves better.;-) once we're in this deep, there's no point -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread steve harley
On 2010-05-01 21:03 , paul stenquist wrote: On May 1, 2010, at 10:55 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-01 19:04 , paul stenquist wrote: I have a LaCie DVD burner that doesnt't seem to work any more. Haven't fooled with it enough to be sure it's dead, since I don't really need it any more.

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread John Francis
On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:45:59PM +0100, Bob W wrote: I've worked in ad agencies that had huge networks of Macs -- more than `1000 at BBDO Detroit. Problems were few and far between, non- existent for most users. But you have to have Mac IT people. You can't leave it to PC

RE: K-7 replacement?

2010-05-01 Thread John Coyle
! Didn't think it was relevant to the thread though. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 10:02 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 replacement? On May 1, 2010, at 5

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 28, 2010, at 02:40 , eckinator wrote: 2010/4/27 CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com: Another PDML'd Yogism: I never blame myself when my images aren't in focus. I just blame the autofocus and if it keeps up, I change brands. After all, if I know it isn't my fault that my images aren't

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread eckinator
2010/4/30 Graydon gray...@marost.ca: As a camera company, the only thing Pentax has to sell is a particular aesthetic.  (The good small primes thing is a part of the aesthetic. So are the specifics of the in-camera image rendering.) Apple was at this point as a computer maker several times

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Adam Maas wrote: My experience is that pretty much all of the 1st party 50/1.4's are weak wide open. The FA's probably the best of the lot, but it's weak until f2, the Canon is very bad, the old Nikon 50/1.4 is mediocre, the new version is somewhat better but still

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread Cotty
On 29/4/10, Graydon, discombobulated, unleashed: Pentax has missed that train, and is now eight miles west of the tracks at a canoe launch in the wilderness. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread Cotty
On 29/4/10, Jeffery Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: Wooo! I like it here. And I don't disagree with anyone. Mark!! Bless the newbie. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread paul stenquist
On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:30 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/4/30 Graydon gray...@marost.ca: As a camera company, the only thing Pentax has to sell is a particular aesthetic. (The good small primes thing is a part of the aesthetic. So are the specifics of the in-camera image rendering.) Apple

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread eckinator
2010/4/30 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Apple was at this point as a computer maker several times throughout their company history after they'd run out of killer apps. They made a monster comeback and have been responsible for some of the most annoying trends in the world such as

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread Bruce Walker
Adam Maas wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: On 30/04/2010, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I concur. It's already been demonstrated that almost all the modern (ie available to buy) Pentax glass vignettes on FF.

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread P. J. Alling
On 4/30/2010 8:40 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Adam Maas wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Rob Studdert wrote: On 30/04/2010, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I concur. It's already been demonstrated that almost all the modern (ie

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: K-7 replacement? On 29/4/10, Jeffery Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: Wooo! I like it here. And I don't disagree with anyone. Mark!! Bless the newbie. IIRC, the first thing I wrote to the PDML was What is wrong with you people

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: K-7 replacement? Of course Apple did it with innovation as well. The first practical GUI interface, a music player that actually worked and a library to go with it, and a phone that was truly smarter than the herd. Exclusivity

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Adam Maas wrote: My experience is that pretty much all of the 1st party 50/1.4's are weak wide open. The FA's probably the best of the lot, but it's weak until f2, the Canon is very bad, the old

Re: K-7 replacement?

2010-04-30 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:07 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, the first thing I wrote to the PDML was What is wrong with you people?. To this day, and it has been more than 10 years, that question remains unanswered. I propose that the above text should introduce Doug's

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