RE: AW: LX envy

2004-02-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: That's okay, Cotty, I don't much care what you think anyway. vbg ptui Them's fightin' words. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Robb wrote: Because within 5 years you won't be able to get film for it? I saw some rotten devil sending his girlfriend into the local camera shop to get film for his Optio 550. Girlfriend? Are you sure it wasn't his 18-year-old mistress? ;-)

Re: AW: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Real pretty is a black 43mm Ltd on a black MX ;-)) Even prettier is a black 43mm Ltd mounted on a black Leica ;-) Mark Roberts wrote: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty is a 43mm Limited on an MX!

Re: AW: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very pretty. It's probably just because I'm so used to seeing pancakes on MXen, but somehow it just doesn't look right on the *istD. I could probably get used to it if I tried, though g Pretty is a 43mm Limited on an MX! -- Mark Roberts Photography

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I have both I Motor LX the Winder LX, the and the winder is quieter than the motor. (I've never heard a Motor MX). Notice I said, the LX shutter was more noticeable, based on my experience the LX is really no louder, it may even be quieter in absolute

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Keith Whaley
I see the MZ-S is very quiet! Probably the best of the lot. I only say probably because my short term memory doesn't allow me to keep all those sounds in memory. The MX is definitely quieter than the LX, by my ear, and that Nikon! Loud! keith Rob Studdert wrote: On 15 Feb 2004 at 18:39, Shel

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Cotty wrote: On 16/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I have both I Motor LX the Winder LX, the and the winder is quieter than the motor. (I've never heard a Motor MX). Notice I said, the LX shutter was more noticeable, based on my experience the LX is really no louder, it may even

RE: AW: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread frank theriault
That's okay, Cotty, I don't much care what you think anyway. vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not telling! :-p Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Peter Alling
Speaking of bad camera/shutter sound effects, I was watching some detective show with half an eye last night as I was working on my trusty computer. Well a character was using a SLR to take some photographs. The shutter noise was some sort of digital imitation of a motor drive. The camera

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread Steve Larson
6:42 PM Subject: Re: LX envy Speaking of bad camera/shutter sound effects, I was watching some detective show with half an eye last night as I was working on my trusty computer. Well a character was using a SLR to take some photographs. The shutter noise was some sort of digital imitation

Re: LX envy

2004-02-16 Thread frank theriault
You got that straight, Cotty! I must admit, I've not heard either the winder or motor LX, but whenever I want to sound like a Pap, I snap off a few with the Winder MX. vbg Truth be told, I keep the winder on my MX most of the time - makes a great grip. But I almost never turn it on. Maybe

RE: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Malcolm Smith
William Robb wrote: Because within 5 years you won't be able to get film for it? I saw some rotten devil sending his girlfriend into the local camera shop to get film for his Optio 550. Malcolm Buy the LX. Best camera I've ever owned, including the *ist D. If Pentax had produced a LX-D

AW: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread keller.schaefer
... Sven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Madsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. Februar 2004 04:18 An: Pentax Discuss List Betreff: LX envy I have an opportunity to add an LX outfit to my camera collection. It is in the shop at the moment due to a little

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Rfsindg
Dave, Just make sure you get a competent repair job, or you'll do it again. The repair should run US$150+ and include new foam and seals. If it's a $40 fix, the guy doesn't know what he is doing. Regards, Bob S. David Madsen writes: I have an opportunity to add an LX outfit to my camera

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
I too choose my LX over my MX consistently. Because it's so small, i've taken the MX on trips now and then without the winder. But the rest of the time, the LX gets the call. I keep a 35mm kit of ten lenses and two bodies in a Pelican case. It goes with me on every job. Until last week, it

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread frank theriault
I guess when you're talking 20 or 25 year old bodies, sample to sample variances are to be expected. However, I really don't notice much difference between my MX and LX in volume level when used without winders. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Norm Baugher
Yeah, but is it more expensive than digital if amortized? g. Norm William Robb wrote: In fact, on a cost per picture, my LX's with print film are more expensive than shooting Ektachrome on my 4x5.

RE: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread David Madsen
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LX envy Dave, Just make sure you get a competent repair job, or you'll do it again. The repair should run US$150+ and include new foam and seals

AW: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread keller.schaefer
] Betreff: Re: LX envy Yeah, but Paul, When you're travelling light, you'll put on the pancake, and throw the MX in your shirt pocket. How big is the *istD with the pancake? Will it still fit in a pocket? -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread ernreed2
frank said: I guess when you're talking 20 or 25 year old bodies, sample to sample variances are to be expected. However, I really don't notice much difference between my MX and LX in volume level when used without winders. Me either, and that would be always since I don't have winders

RE: AW: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread frank theriault
] Subject: AW: LX envy Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:36:13 +0100 Here is the *ist d + pancake: http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-kellersv2/pancake.jpg Mine is not too good wide open though. At 5,6 it is o.k. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new

RE: AW: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread frank theriault
Okay, Cotty, I'll bite. What is the prettiest DSLR? curious, frank PS: your answer will be wrong, but I'd still like to know what you think... vbg The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty [EMAIL

Re: AW: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Frits Wüthrich
judgement. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AW: LX envy Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:06

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Peter Alling
$400.00 is a damned good price for the system as you describe it. However I own two LX's one that was CLA'd by a 3rd party which is the one currently needing repair. (Which reminds me I should send it off to Pentax USA, real soon now). I would almost take the camera as is and send it to Pentax

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Peter Alling
I've had an 18 year old Mistress, from your descriptions I'd need two before the costs would have become equivalent! (Of course mine may have been the exception). At 12:02 AM 2/15/04, you wrote: - Original Message - From: David Madsen Subject: RE: LX envy Believe me I have considered

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Peter Alling
Gee, you must not use the winder on your MX very often, while the shutter/mirror on the LX may be more noticeable than that of the MX, the rasp of the winder MX sounds like a chain saw compared to the sound of the Motor LX. At 12:22 AM 2/15/04, you wrote: I don't know ... I sometimes use one or

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Chris Brogden
When my LX had a problem with sticky mirror, my local repair guy told me that there were two possible causes: the accessible rubber bumpers, or something internal. He replaced the rubber thingies, charged me a very low price, and it's been fine since. chris On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 [EMAIL

Re: AW: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Fred
It's a fact, Fred. The *istD is the prettiest DSLR out there. Just like the PZ-1 is one of the ugliest SLR's ever. Just to prove that my Pentax allegiance isn't clouding my judgement. Har! Fred

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Rarely use winders at all ... never said anything about the MX winder being louder/softer than the LX winder. And it may not be a fair comparison to compare a winder to a motor drive. Love the way you mix up all these various elements, Peter. Peter Alling wrote: Gee, you must not use the

Re: AW: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Fred
When I saw the Z-1/Z-1p in magazines, I thought it was one ugly camera too. But then the actual 3D products look okay, much better than I imagined based on some 2D images. :-) Well, I've never owned a Z1/PZ1 or a Z1p/PZ1p, but I have had a chance to play with some SFX/SF1 and SFXn/SF1n

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Peter Alling
I have both I Motor LX the Winder LX, the and the winder is quieter than the motor. (I've never heard a Motor MX). Notice I said, the LX shutter was more noticeable, based on my experience the LX is really no louder, it may even be quieter in absolute decibels, the pitch is just unfortunate. At

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Feb 2004 at 18:39, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Rarely use winders at all ... never said anything about the MX winder being louder/softer than the LX winder. And it may not be a fair comparison to compare a winder to a motor drive. Love the way you mix up all these various elements, Peter.

Re: LX envy

2004-02-15 Thread John Francis
I have both I Motor LX the Winder LX, the and the winder is quieter than the motor. (I've never heard a Motor MX). Much choppier than the winder (as you would expect; it can run through 5 frames in a second, while the winder can only manage 2). Perhaps a little louder, but not so much so

Re: LX envy

2004-02-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Madsen Subject: RE: LX envy Believe me I have considered that possibility, but I cannot afford a DSLR at the moment. I am only in the market to buy something because I don't like only having one SLR. All of my lenses are primes and I end up doing

Re: LX envy

2004-02-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I don't know ... I sometimes use one or the other of my LX, but in truth, unless I feel a need for the neat metering or the special finders, I find the MX and the Leica much more enjoyable to shoot in 35mm format. If I had to give up one of my cameras today, it would be a no brainer ... the LX

Re: LX envy

2004-02-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: LX envy No, the LX is like a fully equipped American sedan, but sometimes something a little sportier is more appropriate. Hmm. Have we forgotten about the Maxxum 14, or EOS 1+ Mark 24 with the 470 multifunction control

Re: LX envy

2004-02-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: LX envy No, the LX is like a fully equipped American sedan, but sometimes something a little sportier is more appropriate. Hmm. Have we forgotten about the Maxxum 14, or EOS 1+ Mark 24 with the 470

Re: LX envy

2004-02-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Feb 2004 at 23:29, William Robb wrote: I never fell in love with the MX the way that some have. I know they are tough little buggers, mine went to hell and back during their lives, and they are quiet. I like the LX better, and if you like something else, thats fine. So there! I'm