Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
The 2.8 lenses may be only 2/3 stop faster than the f3.5 but that difference alone would mitigate against using just the K 28 3.5 under many circumstances. I might use it outside in relatively bright conditions, but all the inherent sharpness in the world won't make up for a misfocused image d

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
for a good price because of seller ignorance. (Look for a 28mm without the silver ring on the tip.-see Boz) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William Robb wrote: >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Lovel

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Blakely
My K28/3.5 is pretty sharp and appears to have good contrast, but I use my FA 31/1.8 now. I think I'll be dump the K. Regards Bob... --- "I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve o

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
The SMC Pentax 28/3.5 (K series) may well be the sharpest of them all. It definitely outperforms the A and M 28/2.8. Paul On Jul 31, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Jim King wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote on Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:03:16 -0700 > >> There are two different versions of the M 28 one is cosmetically >>

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
Hell, I'd be happy with "just" an "A" version. Jim King wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote on Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:03:16 -0700 > > >> There are two different versions of the M 28 one is cosmetically >> similar >> and optically identical to the A 28. the older version is a slightly >> different optica

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Jim King
P. J. Alling wrote on Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:03:16 -0700 > There are two different versions of the M 28 one is cosmetically > similar > and optically identical to the A 28. the older version is a slightly > different optical formula and looks like all the other M lenses. I > was > never happy wi

RE: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Bob W
Margo for short: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLwcHuhwHRY > > That's actually the name I gave to the voice navigation system in my > car...she's such a bitch. > Norm > > Bob W wrote: > > So, I'm not the only person whose pet name for the PDML is > Margaret! > > > > > >> Hello again, Mar

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Norm Baugher
More like a dominatrix, and BTW I have the M28 and it performs quite well Norm P. J. Alling wrote: > and so demanding, or is that imperious? > > Norm Baugher wrote: > >> That's actually the name I gave to the voice navigation system in my >> car...she's such a bitch. >> Norm >> >> Bob W w

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
and so demanding, or is that imperious? Norm Baugher wrote: > That's actually the name I gave to the voice navigation system in my > car...she's such a bitch. > Norm > > Bob W wrote: > >> So, I'm not the only person whose pet name for the PDML is Margaret! >> >> >> >>> Hello again, Ma

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread P. J. Alling
There are two different versions of the M 28 one is cosmetically similar and optically identical to the A 28. the older version is a slightly different optical formula and looks like all the other M lenses. I was never happy with any of the earlier f2.8 28mm lenses that Pentax produced, instea

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/07/31 Thu PM 12:58:50 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8 > > Anthony Farr wrote: > > Scott should determine which lens he is referencing. Consult Boz is my > >

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Loveless" > Subject: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8 > > >> Hello again, Margaret. >> >> Would anyone be able to comment on the M28/2.8 AND the A28/2.8. >> Preferences? I'm mostly inter

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Scott Loveless
Dario Bonazza wrote: > Anthony Farr wrote: > > >> I'm not Margaret, however > > Me neither. > >> Optically, these lenses will be the same formula. > > Sorry Anthony, but NO. They are very different lenses (both formula and > performance have very little to share). > > Recalling a 10-

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Scott Loveless
Anthony Farr wrote: > Scott should determine which lens he is referencing. Consult Boz is my > advice. > http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/wide-angle/M28f2.8-i.html I'm specifically interested in version 1 of the M lens. And not the Takumar or F lenses. Thanks. -- Scott Loveless New

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8 > Hello again, Margaret. > > Would anyone be able to comment on the M28/2.8 AND the A28/2.8. > Preferences? I'm mostly interested in optics and ergonomics. The 'A' > sett

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread David J Brooks
How did you know my middle name is Margaret. I have the A 28 and it takes nice sharp photos. I doubt you would go wrong with either, but the A setting is nice to have. Dave On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello again, Margaret. > > Would anyone be ab

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's actually the name I gave to the voice navigation system in my > car...she's such a bitch. I read the exit signs myself. Dave > Norm > > Bob W wrote: >> So, I'm not the only person whose pet name for the PDML is Marg

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Norm Baugher
That's actually the name I gave to the voice navigation system in my car...she's such a bitch. Norm Bob W wrote: > So, I'm not the only person whose pet name for the PDML is Margaret! > > >> Hello again, Margaret. >> >> > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdm

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Peter Loveday
> Further research (Boz's K-mount pages) informs me that there are two > versions of M28/2.8. I wasn't aware of the early version. The later > version is in fact the same optical formula as the A28/2.8, and has some > similarities to A lenses unlike the early M lens which is has all the > typical

RE: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Anthony Farr
p/lenses/primes/wide-angle/F28f2.8.html regards, Anthony Farr > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Dario Bonazza > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 4:39 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: M28/2.8 vs

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Peter Loveday
>> Optically, these lenses will be the same formula. > > Sorry Anthony, but NO. They are very different lenses (both formula > and > performance have very little to share). I understand there were two variants of the 'M' lens; an older one which had a different optical design, and a newer o

RE: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-31 Thread Bob W
So, I'm not the only person whose pet name for the PDML is Margaret! > > Hello again, Margaret. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-30 Thread Dario Bonazza
Anthony Farr wrote: > I'm not Margaret, however Me neither. > Optically, these lenses will be the same formula. Sorry Anthony, but NO. They are very different lenses (both formula and performance have very little to share). Recalling a 10-years old comparison, the M lens wins very ea

RE: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-30 Thread Anthony Farr
gards, Anthony Farr > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Scott Loveless > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2008 2:47 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8 > > Hello again, Margaret. > > Would anyon

M28/2.8 vs. A28/2.8

2008-07-30 Thread Scott Loveless
Hello again, Margaret. Would anyone be able to comment on the M28/2.8 AND the A28/2.8. Preferences? I'm mostly interested in optics and ergonomics. The 'A' setting is not important to me at this point. Thanks! -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fiv