Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-04-02 Thread dick graham
Car magazines are much more aggressive about getting information out about future models than photo magazines. They also seemed less tied to car companys than photo magazines are to camera companys and thus are more critical of the car products they test. It is not unusual at all for them

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-04-02 Thread dave o'brien
A scroll of mail from Cameron Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:19:41 -0700 Read it? y I didn't mean to impune the dignity of the 80-200 2.8. It is gorgeous; it's also really expensive and very heavy. An f4 would make more sense. Personally, I think a non Power Zoom version would

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-04-02 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
Indeed, K-mount enthusiasts wishing for a 100/2 have had but one choice: the old Soligor CD. Introduced in 1979, it used a 58mm filter. I tried ordering one from a British store, for 60 pounds sterling, but it had just been sold. A couple months later, the same store had another specimen, same

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-04-01 Thread tom
Cameron Hood wrote: Maybe the rumoured 120 Limited will be good; however, rumours are that it, too, is a macro; not that there is anything wrong with that, but it definitely adds to the cost, as well as the focussing speed. The Pentax FA 50/2.8 macro is the fastest autofocusing lens I've ever

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-04-01 Thread Cameron Hood
I didn't mean to impune the dignity of the 80-200 2.8. It is gorgeous; it's also really expensive and very heavy. An f4 would make more sense. Also, although the FA 135 2.8 is a very good lens, I have yet to see one in a finish that matches any current camera. They all seem to have that grey F135

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-31 Thread Cameron Hood
I hope that the Pentax people are listening to us. It is really a drag to have to wait this long after a product is announced before it even makes it onto their websight (North American). Also, it would be nice if someone from the Corporation would come online with us and tell us what plans

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-31 Thread tom
Cameron Hood wrote: snip Also, we really need some good lenses in between the 85 1.4 and the 200 2.8 that aren't macro, or the exorbitantly priced behemoth of a 80 - 200 2.8 ( Even though I am now a semi-professional photographer, I still can't justify its price when, for about the same

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-31 Thread Doug Brewer
Hi Cameron, Comments interspersed: At 12:50 PM -08003/31/01, Cameron Hood caused thus to appear: I hope that the Pentax people are listening to us. It is really a drag to have to wait this long after a product is announced before it even makes it onto their websight (North American). I

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-31 Thread Pål Jensen
Cameron wrote: I hope that the Pentax people are listening to us. It is really a drag to have to wait this long after a product is announced before it even makes it onto their websight (North American). If you're thinking about the MZ-S I believe they announced it when they did to

RE: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-29 Thread Rob Brigham
-Original Message- From: Pl Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 March 2001 11:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?) Alin wrote: To me, the two new MZ cameras appear to be rather an updated MZ-3 and a downgraded MZ-S. There is little sense

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-29 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Some of us think the control layout of the 5/5n/3 is the best thing about them. It is the only AF camera with a traditional control layout. So you think Pentax should toss them and the unique segment of the market and make another me to camera? I think at least some of us hope not, we want an

FW: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-29 Thread Cameron Hood
-- From: "Ray Ambrosi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:48:18 +0900 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?) Hi Cameron I've been following the list for about 2 years and am a long-term pentax fan in Canada. Starting in 9

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-29 Thread Pål Jensen
Ray wrote: I wanted a better-sealed tough camera from Pentax I too was disappointed at the MZ-S specs, it doesn't have focus-aid light, low fps, and no aperature wheel. So again I will wait to see if a new body is indeed released. The problem is that it might never be released. I'm sure

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Alin Flaider
I had to look to the RFc-822 complete headers to make sure it's not one of the Valentin's famous cave projections. Come on Pl, you used to let it out gradually, how can you throw it all in one volley and expect to be followed!? ;o) Comments below. Pl wrote: PJ Its interesting to note the

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen
From: "Ernest Alejandria" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my opinion, the only logical upgrade/succesor to the Z-1p/PZ-1p line will be titanium clad with a multi-point AF and OTF metering. They can leave the rest of the features intact, as far as I'm concerned. Well, that

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Alin wrote: To me, the two new MZ cameras appear to be rather an updated MZ-3 and a downgraded MZ-S. There is little sense in improving the MZ-7 - an already settled body in its class. But the MZ-3/5n cries for a new autofocus and a touch of the flash system. I wasn't thinking about an

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Alin wrote: Very likely a Canon clone, with a simplified user interface via a left mode dial and the new Safox VII autofocus system. Feature crammed, direct opponent of EOS-3 and Dynax-7 and aiming to the PZ owners. I guess this S-1 is camera that went back to engineering for an upgrade.

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread dick graham
I got in on this late. Is it my understanding that there are photos of these prototype bodies or is this just taken from talk at the camera show in Japan? How serious is it? DG At 12:33 PM 3/28/01 +0200, you wrote: Alin wrote: To me, the two new MZ cameras appear to be rather an

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread John Francis
Ernest Alejandria wrote: In my opinion, the only logical upgrade/succesor to the Z-1p/PZ-1p line will be titanium clad with a multi-point AF and OTF metering. They can leave the rest of the features intact, as far as I'm concerned. I don't care if it's titanium clad or not (actually I'd

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread tom
John Francis wrote: Ernest Alejandria wrote: In my opinion, the only logical upgrade/succesor to the Z-1p/PZ-1p line will be titanium clad with a multi-point AF and OTF metering. They can leave the rest of the features intact, as far as I'm concerned. I don't care if it's titanium

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread dick graham
Thanks Pal, I appreciate the information! DG At 08:10 PM 3/28/01 +0200, you wrote: Dick wrote: I got in on this late. Is it my understanding that there are photos of these prototype bodies or is this just taken from talk at the camera show in Japan? How serious is it? It's serious

RE: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Cameron Hood
I just hope they do it SOON! They have been lagging badly behind all others in pro camera development; I guess they just wanted to clean up in the point and shoot market, not to mention binoculars and so on (BTW, have you ever compared the milky, cloudy looking M.. binos with the clear. warm

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Cameron wrote: I just hope they do it SOON! They have been lagging badly behind all others in pro camera development; There's no word about time frame so release date is pure speculation. I personally doubt any other pro grade camera will be shown this year. As we have heard before theres

Re: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-27 Thread Paul C
sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:19:19 +0200 Pentax have been showing their plans about the future 35mm slr line-up at the Japan camera show. The MZ-S was said released while the Z-

New Pentax S-1, MZ-1 and MZ-4(2?)

2001-03-27 Thread Ernest Alejandria
Pal Jensen wrote: snip Pentax have been showing their plans about the future 35mm slr line-up at the Japan camera show. The MZ-S was said released while the Z-1p evolves into it successor and the MZ-3 to its upgrade models. So the MZ-S may not be the long awaited flagship after all. Its